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  • General Baseball Thread - 2017

    Start of a new year, so start of a new thread. I'll probably close the other one, in about a week. So, it would be best to start using this one.

    This is when I proclaim this to be the 25th annual year the Rockies really compete.

    (No, but seriously - they should take a big step forward this year. I'd take 85 wins, and contention through at least most of September.)

  • #2
    Originally posted by DomCasual View Post
    ...I'd take 85 wins...
    FWIW, Fangraphs currently has them at 78.

    http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts...tion=Standings

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    • #3
      Originally posted by TonyR View Post
      FWIW, Fangraphs currently has them at 78.

      http://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts...tion=Standings
      Yeah, I think that's a little pessimistic (admittedly, my opinion cannot always be trusted on such matters).

      They won 75 last year, and that was with a disastrous year from the bullpen. They will likely get slight regression from their lineup (although, I would argue that guys like Lemahieu, Arenado, and Blackmon are what they are, at this point); but they will also hopefully be getting at least slight progression at SS (including, hopefully, an entire year of production - not all that unlikely, considering age), LF, and, perhaps, 1B (maybe a big jump there, if Bridich can work some magic over the next couple months).

      Their rotation, one would think, would make a big jump. It's loaded with talented guys who are at the point where, if they're worth their salt, they should see real productivity jumps. It's certainly the most talent and depth they've had in their history. And. as I first mentioned, the bullpen is not nearly as bad as it was last year (I won't even mention how they were managed - or, wait, I did just mention it).

      Damn, now that I write all that, I want 90 wins!

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      • #4
        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Young <a href="https://twitter.com/Cardinals">@Cardinals</a> stud <a href="https://twitter.com/AlexReyes_67">@AlexReyes_67</a> says he will pitch for team Dominican Republic. Team has not confirmed. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WBC2017?src=hash">#WBC2017</a> <a href="https://t.co/ZyeMJeR7zH">pic.twitter.com/ZyeMJeR7zH</a></p>&mdash; WBC Baseball (@WBCBaseball) <a href="https://twitter.com/WBCBaseball/status/817166300732456961">January 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DomCasual View Post
          Start of a new year, so start of a new thread. I'll probably close the other one, in about a week. So, it would be best to start using this one.

          This is when I proclaim this to be the 25th annual year the Rockies really compete.

          (No, but seriously - they should take a big step forward this year. I'd take 85 wins, and contention through at least most of September.)
          Well Dom I think you may hate my pessimism here but I still think the rockies need to do more to sure up starting pitching and the bullpen. Grey really seems to be a closer IMO he has this thing where he lets stuff get to him. Chatwood is good but has been injury prone and has not pitched good enough long enough to say he is an ACE or even #2. Also Coors field is the largest outfield in MLB and I am shocked the rockies do not have a fast outfielders; this alone would save runs. In fact, its this large field of play that increases averages more than the thin air IMO. And I would love to see a leadoff batter who can work the count and steal bases (an actual speed demon threat).

          I have high hopes for Anderson he looked great. I think the rockies really only need a 16th - 18th ranked ERA to really compete but it seems we need to do more than hope what on paper is rather a ok group of starters and relievers pans out (28th in ERA last year).

          I would love to enjoy the rockies this year and think Bud Black is a good move. But until I see a good effort to sure up the bullpen and another good starter or two I think this is a sub .500 team right now.
          Last edited by Coldcity76; 01-05-2017, 05:10 PM.

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          • #6
            Rockies picking up Orange County native , Mark Trumbo will be like Dante Bichette back in the day.

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            • #7
              Go Mariners. This is the year... No, it probably isn't. Probably be about 2 games out of the playoffs yet again.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
                Rockies picking up Orange County native , Mark Trumbo will be like Dante Bichette back in the day.
                You bastard. You had me frantically checking Twitter to read about them signing Mark Trumbo.

                He could bomb there, though. I had my heart set on Encarnacion, a bit. I just refuse to believe they signed Ian Desmond to really play 1st base.

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                • #9
                  I'd love to clean the Rockies system out for Quintana.
                  Still prefer to trade with Scribe though.

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                  • #10
                    Aaaaaaaaaaand the Halo's still don't have any pitching.
                    Yeah, ANA has the best baseball player in the world and NO pitchers.
                    Awesome.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SoCalBronco View Post
                      I'd love to clean the Rockies system out for Quintana.
                      Still prefer to trade with Scribe though.
                      Quintana? As in, Yohander Quintana? Why him?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DomCasual View Post
                        Quintana? As in, Yohander Quintana? Why him?
                        Jose Quintana

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SoCalBronco View Post
                          Jose Quintana
                          There were rumors a few weeks ago that the Rockies were trying to trade for Jose Quintana, but they're still rumors. I thought the Yohander Quintana thing was weird. He's a 20-year old down in Grand Junction.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Coldcity76 View Post
                            Well Dom I think you may hate my pessimism here but I still think the rockies need to do more to sure up starting pitching and the bullpen. Grey really seems to be a closer IMO he has this thing where he lets stuff get to him. Chatwood is good but has been injury prone and has not pitched good enough long enough to say he is an ACE or even #2. Also Coors field is the largest outfield in MLB and I am shocked the rockies do not have a fast outfielders; this alone would save runs. In fact, its this large field of play that increases averages more than the thin air IMO. And I would love to see a leadoff batter who can work the count and steal bases (an actual speed demon threat).

                            I have high hopes for Anderson he looked great. I think the rockies really only need a 16th - 18th ranked ERA to really compete but it seems we need to do more than hope what on paper is rather a ok group of starters and relievers pans out (28th in ERA last year).

                            I would love to enjoy the rockies this year and think Bud Black is a good move. But until I see a good effort to sure up the bullpen and another good starter or two I think this is a sub .500 team right now.
                            Man, in one of Gray's last starts in September, he pitched a complete-game shutout with 17 Ks - at Coors Field. He'll likely never win one, because of where he plays, but he has Cy Young potential. Don't even mention him in the pen.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RepentWalpurgis
                              I don't love it. He's being counted on for a major role by the Cardinals. Wainwright and Lynn are kind of question marks and they dumped Garcia.

                              (formerly bombay)
                              The Cardinals, shockingly, supported Reyes' decision. I am kind of dismayed by that.

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