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  • Originally posted by ludo21 View Post
    The more I think of the QB prospects of this draft the more I am leaning towards Manziel if I am one of those QB hungry top teams. Go big or go home style.
    Manziel is so polarizing though. He could easily do a Geno Smith type fall in RL.

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    • Originally posted by eddie mac View Post
      I told you. OM posters totdally devalue QB's or is it the real world overvalues them The thing is any mocker on here wont get fired if he cant find a guy to take his team forward this year. In truth the new guy in Houston will, Cleveland definitely and likely Allen's last year in Oakland. None of them are getting 6 wins with their current powderpuff slingers so they absolutely will draft Quarterbacks this year.
      I'm just not seeing the value or any "Franchise QB" in the first round. I'd go as far as to say not a single QB in this draft will make a single pro-bowl. GM's constantly make the mistake of drafting a QB just for the sake of getting a QB.

      The Texans and other teams know this draft has *****y QBs. Elway is even getting interest for Osweiler from multiple teams and the Texans were in discussions to get Mallett in a trade. That tells me that the Texans are agreeing with me that this draft class for QBs is a giant steaming pile of ****.

      I wouldn't be surprised to see Schaub shipped off to the Raiders and the Texans acquiring Mallett on or near draft weekend.

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      • Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
        The value chart is outdated badly. I also think that strong drafts, like this one, make the value of earlier selections worth considerably less, whereas in a weak draft they would maintain or potentially increase in value.

        Last year is really telling for me with the Oakland/Miami trade. A 2nd round pick to move up from out of the Top 10 (12th) to #3 overall. that was 600+ points less than the value chart suggests.

        If I'm Atlanta, I'm offering an early 3rd to trade from 6 to 3. If I'm Jacksonville, I'm taking it unless I want a specific player that won't fall to 6. In that case, I'm either staying put and taking my guy or I'm asking for a king's ransom to justify me losing him.
        Our value in the mock is a bit different from reality, however, because we can't trade draft choices for subsequent years.

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        • Originally posted by 24champ View Post
          I'm just not seeing the value or any "Franchise QB" in the first round. I'd go as far as to say not a single QB in this draft will make a single pro-bowl. GM's constantly make the mistake of drafting a QB just for the sake of getting a QB.

          The Texans and other teams know this draft has *****y QBs. Elway is even getting interest for Osweiler from multiple teams and the Texans were in discussions to get Mallett in a trade. That tells me that the Texans are agreeing with me that this draft class for QBs is a giant steaming pile of ****.

          I wouldn't be surprised to see Schaub shipped off to the Raiders and the Texans acquiring Mallett on or near draft weekend.
          I could see Schaub ending up in Cleveland under Kyle Shanahan. Especially if they make any trade with their firsts.

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          • If Cleveland trades for Schaub I will be sad.

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            • If Clowney wasn't there.....Mack was my choice. But champ24 took him #1 overall.


              Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
              Ok, thoughts so far on the first 5 selections:

              This is going much different than I anticipated. The same guys for the most part, just a different order, which is going to impact the 2nd and 3rd round more than anything. I'm seriously 0 for 5. I had Clowney to Houston, Bridgewater to Minnesota in a trade, Mack to Jax, Watkins to Cleveland, and Bortles to Oakland (with them signing Penn to play LT and Vick/Schaub to QB for a year or two as Bortles needs to sit for awhile).

              However, I think ALL of the selections are solid and make sense. I really like Bridgewater too, I heard the reports he had an okay Pro Day, but I don't care, his tape has him making all the throws for years accurately. The guy is a stud. If Clowney goes to Houston #1 in RL, I expect a team to trade up with the Rams for Bridgewater, Oakland, Minnesota, or TB, with Minnesota being the favorite.

              With Oakland though, now that the owner is involved and trumping his GM, I can't imagine they skip a QB at #5. The current regime is already dead, the owner is going to make this pick, and I expect it to be a QB. I really think they'll pay Donald Penn whatever they must for him to play LT. There's a chance though if they miss out on Penn, I could see them going OT.
              Last edited by ColoradoBuff; 03-17-2014, 02:56 PM.

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              • Originally posted by 24champ View Post
                I'm just not seeing the value or any "Franchise QB" in the first round. I'd go as far as to say not a single QB in this draft will make a single pro-bowl. GM's constantly make the mistake of drafting a QB just for the sake of getting a QB.

                The Texans and other teams know this draft has *****y QBs. Elway is even getting interest for Osweiler from multiple teams and the Texans were in discussions to get Mallett in a trade. That tells me that the Texans are agreeing with me that this draft class for QBs is a giant steaming pile of ****.

                I wouldn't be surprised to see Schaub shipped off to the Raiders and the Texans acquiring Mallett on or near draft weekend.
                I think you are wrong about Blake Bortles.

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                • Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
                  Manziel is so polarizing though. He could easily do a Geno Smith type fall in RL.
                  would that be bad? 5 GW drives this year and got better IMO...

                  I think Bortles can be Rothlessberger esque.



                  Just the today version instead of the few years ago version.

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                  • Originally posted by DBroncos4life View Post
                    I think you are wrong about Blake Bortles.

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                    • Originally posted by 24champ View Post
                      This is bad Mack mojo.

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                      • Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                        If Cleveland trades for Schaub I will be sad.
                        If get him for 4th or future pick it wouldn't be a bad option for them. Would rather have sexy Rex Grossman leading that team

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                        • Originally posted by elsid13 View Post
                          If get him for 4th or future pick it wouldn't be a bad option for them. Would rather have sexy Rex Grossman leading that team
                          We got Teddy KGB leadin' us now. That is all that matters.

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                          • Originally posted by 24champ View Post
                            Awesome gif response

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                            • F***. Where is Arkie? I wanna draft tonight!!

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                              • Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                                This is bad Mack mojo.
                                I think Mack pick was a good pick. I just hope someone snakes Garoppolo from him.

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