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  • #76
    Originally posted by eddie mac View Post
    well this pick is pretty easy to predict if Jags dont trade it, but if anyone trades up it'll be for the same player IMO
    You would think.... buuuuuuuut this is the OM Draft where magic happens!

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    • #77
      Req is on the clock. Wonder what he will do...2 of his favorite prospects are off the board.

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      • #78
        Clowney is a real puzzle. Built like Hercules. Acts like a teenager. Who knows what will happen? Don't see any other choice for the Jags but to roll the dice on him. The physical talent demands it.

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        • #79
          Who wants to trade up!?

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          • #80
            He is a worst case Peppers IMO...

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            Before 1994: unofficial and inconsistently recorded from team to team. For amusement only.

            1994-2001: unofficial but consistently recorded.

            2001-now: official.">Tkl</TH><TH class=tooltip align=middle jQuery11010477570788920146="738" table_number="1" sorttable_columnindex="19" data-stat="tackles_assists" tip="Assists on tackles

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            1994-2001: unofficial, but consistently recorded

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            See the glossary for more information.">AV</TH></TR></THEAD><TBODY><TR id=defense.2002 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="649" data-row="0"><TD align=left>2002</TD><TD align=right>22</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>LDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right>12.0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>21</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>8</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2003 class="full_table hl" jQuery11010477570788920146="651" data-row="1"><TD align=left>2003</TD><TD align=right>23</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>LDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>7.0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>39</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>8</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2004 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="652" data-row="2"><TD align=left>2004*+</TD><TD align=right>24</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>LDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>11.0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>143</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>97</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>60</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>53</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>15</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2005 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="653" data-row="3"><TD align=left>2005*</TD><TD align=right>25</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>LDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>10.5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>10</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>38</TD><TD align=right>12</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>13</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2006 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="654" data-row="4"><TD align=left>2006*+</TD><TD align=right>26</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>LDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>13.0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>49</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>17</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2007 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="655" data-row="5"><TD align=left>2007</TD><TD align=right>27</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>LDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>2.5</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>31</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>7</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2008 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="656" data-row="6"><TD align=left>2008*</TD><TD align=right>28</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>RDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>14.5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>40</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>13</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2009 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="657" data-row="7"><TD align=left>2009*</TD><TD align=right>29</TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left>RDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>10.5</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>13</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>36</TD><TD align=right>5</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>15</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2010 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="658" data-row="8"><TD align=left>2010*+</TD><TD align=right>30</TD><TD align=left>CHI</TD><TD align=left>RDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>8.0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>43</TD><TD align=right>11</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>18</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2011 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="659" data-row="9"><TD align=left>2011*</TD><TD align=right>31</TD><TD align=left>CHI</TD><TD align=left>DE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>11.0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>12</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2012 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="660" data-row="10"><TD align=left>2012*</TD><TD align=right>32</TD><TD align=left>CHI</TD><TD align=left>RDE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>11.5</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>4</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>32</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>18</TD></TR><TR id=defense.2013 class=full_table jQuery11010477570788920146="661" data-row="11"><TD align=left>2013</TD><TD align=right>33</TD><TD align=left>CHI</TD><TD align=left>RDE/RE</TD><TD align=right>90</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>16</TD><TD align=right>7.5</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>3</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>42</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>31</TD><TD align=right>15</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>7</TD></TR></TBODY><TFOOT><TR class=stat_total data-row="12"><TD align=left>Career</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>186</TD><TD align=right>184</TD><TD align=right>119.0</TD><TD align=right>9</TD><TD align=right>192</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>97</TD><TD align=right>64</TD><TD align=right>40</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>14</TD><TD align=right>129</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>454</TD><TD align=right>109</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>151</TD></TR><TR class=stat_total data-row="13"><TD align=left>8 yrs</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=left>CAR</TD><TD align=left></TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>122</TD><TD align=right>120</TD><TD align=right>81.0</TD><TD align=right>6</TD><TD align=right>177</TD><TD align=right>2</TD><TD align=right>97</TD><TD align=right>46</TD><TD align=right>30</TD><TD align=right>0</TD><TD align=right>7</TD><TD align=right>81</TD><TD align=right>1</TD><TD align=right>315</TD><TD align=right>72</TD><TD align=right></TD><TD align=right>96</TD></TR><TR class=stat_total data-row="14"><TD align=left>4 yrs</TD></TR></TFOOT></TABLE>


            I just really never noticed Peppers being that good conistently, but always stumbled into double digit sacks.
            Last edited by ludo21; 03-17-2014, 10:43 AM.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by ludo21 View Post
              I am seriously thinking about trading up... but not for the draft value chart. No way i want to give up my 2nd rounder....
              The value chart is outdated badly. I also think that strong drafts, like this one, make the value of earlier selections worth considerably less, whereas in a weak draft they would maintain or potentially increase in value.

              Last year is really telling for me with the Oakland/Miami trade. A 2nd round pick to move up from out of the Top 10 (12th) to #3 overall. that was 600+ points less than the value chart suggests.

              If I'm Atlanta, I'm offering an early 3rd to trade from 6 to 3. If I'm Jacksonville, I'm taking it unless I want a specific player that won't fall to 6. In that case, I'm either staying put and taking my guy or I'm asking for a king's ransom to justify me losing him.

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              • #82
                If you want to trade up make an offer quick or I will pick. I am not going to command a ransom.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by 24champ View Post
                  Req is on the clock. Wonder what he will do...2 of his favorite prospects are off the board.
                  Really thought they'd be able to land Watkins and go after a QB later. This is a tough pick if they don't trade back....unless they love Bortles or Bridgewater, than it's perfect.

                  I think with this draft being so deep, people won't be trading up as much, both in our mock and the RL thing. So, this seems pretty realistic so far.

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                  • #84
                    I have never seen Bortles throw one pass so I can assure you I don't even have him on my board. I am not gonna lie. Didn't even know he existed. A name like that doesn't sound good either. He is gonna bust.

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                    • #85
                      Bortles? *chortles*

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
                        Really thought they'd be able to land Watkins and go after a QB later. This is a tough pick if they don't trade back....unless they love Bortles or Bridgewater, than it's perfect.

                        I think with this draft being so deep, people won't be trading up as much, both in our mock and the RL thing. So, this seems pretty realistic so far.
                        I see another surprise pick here with Cleveland.

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                        • #87
                          All right, no takers. Gonna post my selection in about 10-15 minutes.

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                          • #88
                            Browns seem pretty happy with Hoyer, not sure about Bridgewater but I guess competition can't hurt.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by 24champ View Post
                              Browns seem pretty happy with Hoyer, not sure about Bridgewater but I guess competition can't hurt.
                              The only three guys I'd of considered instead of him were all taken before me. I didn't have a choice. Their new GM wants a QB. There is no way they are going into 2014 with Hoyer as their long-term guy.

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                              • #90
                                Rugby gets a good pick at #5. . .

                                Ro messed this thing up!

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