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  • ludo21
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    ya no doubt some team is trying to get him to fall... hmmm

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  • Old Dude
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    I also boldly predict that the sun will rise in the east.

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  • Old Dude
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    I boldly predict that more Bosa controversy will surface before draft day. And that at least one prospect will get outed for a bad drug test or DUI this week.

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  • eddie mac
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    Michael Giardi‏Verified account @MikeGiardi 2m2 minutes ago

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    If the #Patriots have a 1st rd grade on Will Grier & they believe teams around them are a threat to take him, then don’t leave to chance. Draft him. Or move up a few spots to make sure. Between last year’s draft class and the plethora of picks you have, they can afford to.

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Originally posted by orangefan View Post
    Hey MUG,
    I always enjoy your player reviews and rankings!
    Have you posted your top 300 anywhere? I have followed this thread pretty closely but may have missed it somewhere in the 166 pages. Keep up the good work!
    I'll put up my updated Top 300 pretty soon, just have to find time to sit down and update it.

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  • orangefan
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    Hey MUG,
    I always enjoy your player reviews and rankings!
    Have you posted your top 300 anywhere? I have followed this thread pretty closely but may have missed it somewhere in the 166 pages. Keep up the good work!

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  • eddie mac
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    I hope @JoshNorris is right, he has Miles Boykin as his 23rd rated prospect.

    https://www.rotoworld.com/article/ra...raft-big-board

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  • Broncos23
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    Seahawks historical OM Mock Team (started last year)
    QB
    RB Derrius Guice (2017 1.18 - Washington)
    WR Emanuel Hall (2018 - 4.111 - Missouri) Bryan Edwards (2018 UDFA - South Carolina)
    WR DaMarkus Lodge (2018 UDFA - Ole Miss)
    WR Anthony Ratliff-Williams (2018 UDFA - North Carolina)
    TE Jordan Thomas (2017 UDFA - Houston)
    LT
    LG Scott Quesenberry (2017 5.146 - LA Chargers)
    C
    RG Javon Patterson (2018 UDFA - Ole Miss) Skylar Phillips (2017 7.250 - UDFA)
    RT
    DE Landis Durham (2018 UDFA - Texas A&M)
    DT Derrick Nnadi (2017 4.101 - Kansas City)
    DT Jeffrey Simmons (2018 1.21 - Miss St.)
    DE Adonis Davis (2018 UDFA - Florida Tech)
    LB Leon Jacobs (2017 7.226 - Jacksonville)
    LB Ola Adeniyi (7.248 - Pittsburgh)
    MLB Joel Lanning (2017 - UDFA)
    SS Malik Gant (2018 5.159 - Marshall)
    FS
    CB Tony Brown (2017 5.168 - UDFA)
    CB David Long (2018 - 3.88 - Michigan)

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the CINCINNATI BENGALS sign:

    LS DAN GODSIL, INDIANA


    Dan Godsil is #300 on my Top 300 Big Board.



    No tapework on the longsnapper, but this was as simple as putting the unanimous top long snapper in the draft at least on my Top 300 Big Board somewhere, so I squeaked him at the buzzer. Hopefully, since I nabbed him in UDFA, a team really wants a long snapper in this draft.

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the OAKLAND RAIDERS sign:

    LB SUTTON SMITH, NORTHERN ILLINOIS


    Sutton Smith is #299 on my Top 300 Big Board.


    DE SUTTON SMITH NORTHERN ILLINOIS

    Utah (2018): Playing DE. Starting the game at LDE in a 43 defense. Unblocked, good backside pursuit to help stuff RB for a loss. Has some quickness to him, looks small and muscle bound though. Lost contain on QB keep around the edge. Unblocked off edge, just ran right in and tackled the QB before he could really decide what to do with the read options. Looks like Julian Edelman, the DE version. Very quick and jerky with his movement, really tiny, just gets swallowed up by the OL. Pancake by Barton, just kind of shoved him down. Side stepped a cut block attempt, he’s quick. It’s not translating to much so far, but it’s somewhat interesting to watch. Reminds me of when we used to play tackle football in the neighborhood and we always had this one kid like five years younger that begged to play. He was quick, but we destroyed him every time. I’m having flashbacks watching this. Beat the RT around the arc, bounced off the double team block by the RB, able to chase down the QB when he started to scramble. Dude is a pinball. Think he got half credit for a sack on the QB just before half while he was winding up for a Hail Mary, looked like he grabbed his foot as the other player tackled him. He’s a good athlete, shows good stop start ability, can change direction on a dime, just very quick. Beat the RT off the snap, just sliced inside. Pancaked by the TE at the goal line. Decent job on contain, QB tried to keep it and get outside, Smith blocked him way and helped tackle him for a loss. Smoked the RT around the edge, just pure speed rush and the RT even tried to tackle him and he still got the sack. He just keeps beating the RT around the edge on the arc rush, putting tremendous pressure on the QB. Jumped outside the LT to avoid his drive block, looped around him and tackled the RB for a loss. He’s pretty fast in open space, QB is trying to roll out and get around him and Smith just chews up ground insanely quick and keeps tackling him before he can do anything. Slipped off the RT’s drive block, went right around him, dove and grabbed the RB’s leg, eventually got him down for another tackle for loss. Caught crashing inside on reverse, but teammates cleaned it up. It looked kind of funny with how small he is, but he had a very productive game and gave both OTs fits. Not sure what you do with him, his best asset is his quickness. You probably have to project him to OLB, but he didn’t really play in space at all in this game.

    FSU (2018): Playing DE. Starting the game at LDE in a 43 defense. Double teaming him a lot early on, he’s just getting smothered and has been completely ineffective in the run game. Unblocked off the edge, RB missed blitz pickup, able to stuff the other RB for a loss. Lined up at 34 OLB, two point stance, out extra wide, and he absolutely torched the LT around the arc for a pressure. That was effortless. Beat the RT clean inside off the snap, just shot the inside gap, RT even dove to try and block him, was too late. Actually beat the RT with a bull rush, took him right back into the QB for a pressure. Nice job cutting inside the LT and wrapping up the RB low for a minimal gain. Beat the RT by shooting the gap on the snap, guy had to tackle him, got the flag. Beat the LT on an arc rush for a pressure. He’s mostly just lining up extra wide in a two point stance and running in a straight line at the QB. Dipped underneath the RT off the snap, got right around him and stuffed the RB for a loss. Great job on contain, stacked up both the TE and RB on sweep play, teammates able to clean it up for a loss. Dip and bend around the arc on RT, strip sack on QB. He’s one of the few pass rushers in this draft that can dip and bend the arc. The first half in this game had him largely erased, they doubled him a lot and when he was singled up and he won, they just tackled him. With a lead in the second half, they kind of left him alone a little bit more and he started making some plays. He’s a very difficult guy to block as an OT 1v1 because he’s so quick off the snap, he can beat you outside or inside in a blink. The downside is that he is small and can be absolutely manhandled at times. He does seem to be pretty strong though, just not stout at all due to his size. Has to play LB in the NFL. Question is going to be in what type of scheme, and is there any chance he’s moved to ILB like Kyle Emmanuel and Joe Schobert were to relative success. He’s a matchup nightmare on the field if he’s utilized correctly and in the right spots.

    Buffalo (2018): Playing DE. Starting off the game at LDE in a 43 defense. First quarter has been completely forgettable for him. Has been blocked and walled out of almost every play so far. Has gotten a little bit of pressure around the edge, but by the time he nears the QB, the ball is already out. Has had a few running plays that maybe he could have made, but he wasn’t aware the RB was running right by him at the time. He does a lot of spins and he’s small, I don’t think he sees the field all that well. Beat the RT around the edge for a pressure, but ball came out quickly. Lots of inside runs, really kind neutralizes what he does. Continues to get double teamed frequently. Stab step move to get inside the RT and stuff the RB for a loss. One of the few times they’ve tried to run off tackle in his direction. Stunt inside, came in free between the RG and OC for a QB pressure. The QB is getting the ball out quick though. Beat the LG for a QB pressure, the LT had to kick out on blitz, he easily just zipped around the LG outside. Beat the WR down block off the line to stuff RB in backfield. Beat the RT around the arc for a sack, almost a safety. RT got square with him at the line, Smith simply redirected and scooted around him outside, RT had nowhere near the quickness to shift his weight and kickslide to get depth in time. Nice job just shooting around the RT, read inside run, charged back down the field and dove to limit the gain by the RB. Relentless on the pass rush to finally get the sack on a long scramble drill type play with the QB avoiding seemingly the entire NIU team until Smith flew in there and put a stop to it. For the most part in this game he was contained more than against Utah and FSU, which is kind of surprising. The offensive scheme had a lot to do with it. Lots of inside runs, the QB for Buffalo is pretty elusive, and they doubled Smith a lot of the time in the game.


    TLDR:
    He’s a good player, but he largely gets erased by double teams. This game (Buffalo) was kind of what you worry about though, at least in large swathes of it. He just gets neutralized and pushed around, the RB has an easy time of running right past him in lanes Smith was supposed to fill. He obviously can’t play on the line in the NFL. The question is how does he project to OLB, maybe even ILB, most likely in a 34 defense. And of those teams, how many have a need or desire for a player such as Smith. All that is going to determine if he gets drafted or not. He should put up some good testing numbers, he looks strong, he looks quick and fast. I’m kind of intrigued by him, I think if used in a situational pass rush specialist role, maybe even on special teams as well, he could be pretty effective. His lack of size and length makes getting drafted at all an uphill battle. He’ll be on my board though.

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the ATLANTA FALCONS sign:

    OG RYAN POPE, SAN DIEGO STATE


    Ryan Pope is #298 on my Top 300 Big Board.


    OT RYAN POPE SAN DIEGO STATE

    Stanford (2017): Playing RT. Pancake on the DE on off tackle run. This looks like a pretty big and powerful guy. Feet and kickslide look solid, covered good ground on arc rush, let the DE go and redirect inside a little too soon though. Could show more effort blocking on a screen play, he was in position to take a couple guys out and just watched it all instead. Solid job twisting DE and sealing him inside on off tackle run. DE able to ole him on lunging run block attempt, Pope needs to keep his balance better, he’s a big, strong guy, I don’t think he needs to lunge to move these D-linemen. Or maybe he does, stack and shed by DE to stuff run for minimal gain. And again. This is undrafted 260lb DE Cotton who is eating his lunch right now. Solid outside seal on DE on off tackle run. Had that nice kickslide early, but now he’s mostly just using his shuffle in pass pro. There are some issues here, first and foremost with consistency in his technique. Not good in open space, he actually runs leaning forward and is offbalance, whiffed on trying to block LBs at the second level. Solid job on arc rush by OLB. And the next play the OLB flattens around the arc and smashes the QB. Pope is just a mess, he looks like he should be a good RT, the body and the feet look solid, but his lean is all over the place, he’s not really using a punch either, it’s more of a soft paddy cake approach. Solid drive block on the DE down near goal line. This is about as up and down as you can get for OL tape. I think 2018 tape is going to be all about if he has grown and shows more consistency. I wouldn’t draft him based on his 2017 work if this game is representative of his play.

    Arizona State (2018): Playing RT. Tried to jump inside to angle block and wall off the DE, shoved down by the 240 lb DE for his efforts. Well, that’s not a good start. Solid block in space on the safety leading a RB sweep. Not kicksliding, just using his shuffle, covers decent ground with it, but that’s not going to get you to the NFL as an OT. Decent job getting to the second level, completely whiffed on blocking the LB when he did. Pulled around the two outside TEs, dove to block the CB on the edge for a RB sweep, CB back peddled away from Pope’s block attempt so Pope fell on his face, but he also made the CB go backwards to avoid him and RB was able to pick up the first down, so that’s a win. Nice outside seal block on the OLB on off tackle run. Has to be one of the worst OTs at holding his block for longer than a second, he just kind of wins by positioning himself between the defender and the person with the ball, doesn’t use his hands well at all. It’s ridiculously easy for the defender to redirect around him. This 240 lb DE Bates is kicking his ass; consistently overpowering Pope and stacking him up. Super pancake on the safety on inside draw, just ran straight ahead and shoved him over backwards. That looked pretty good, and he was covered up by the TE, so he was essentially an OG on that play. That’s something to think about. Arm length looks solid, he’ll occasionally throw out his initial punch and hold the DE at arm’s length which is good, then he just takes his arms off because apparently he can’t shuffle or move with his arms extended. A good OL coach just needs to build him from the ground up, I don’t know why he does half of what he does. Solid pull around the TEs to seal the OLB outside on off tackle run. He’s covered up by a TE a lot, he’s used as an interior OG type lineman at least half the time and looks better in that role I think. Beaten around the arc by a power rush by the OLB for a sack. Just got a little bit of an angle and powered through his outside shoulder. Continues to look fairly clueless when trying to block at the second level. Solid seal block on DE on inside run. He’s mostly just tasked with walling people off, every now and then he’ll drive block, but this is mostly an inside run offense. Blew up by the LB in the hole, got under his pads and jacked him up, then helped tackle RB for short gain. Pancake on DE, able to twist and throw him down before flopping on top of him on off tackle run. Rock solid play where he helped double the DE to push him wide and then climbed to shove the safety out wide as well, RB on off tackle run came behind both blocks for a chunk gain. Pope has decent athleticism for the position. Has generally struggled with quick inside gap shooting and defenders coming in low and getting up under his pads jacking him up. Those two issues kind of worry me with projecting him inside to OG. He just plays high, he’s tall and bends at the waist, maybe that’s fixable, maybe not. Tape was better than 2017, but still a lot of concerns.

    Boise State (2018): Playing RT. Drive block on DE, DE able to roll off the block, redirect, and stuff the RB for a loss. This issue plagues Pope in every game, he just can’t hold blocks. Continues to show just lazy effort with his blocks, had the DE sealed outside on inside draw, but after the initial push, just stopped trying to block him, DE just circled around him and made the tackle from behind. Still not using his kickslide, just shuffling on arc rush. Solid inside seal on LB at second level. Pancake on DE in pass pro, just shoved him down. Pope shows decent strength. Nice down block on DT, drove him well inside and away from the hole. Pancake on DT at goal line, RB ran right behind him for a 2 yard TD. Pope did his job on a 4th and 1 play, took the DT and smooshed him down inside, the RB was stuffed for the turnover on downs though. Stacked up by DE, RB bottled up for minimal gain on inside run. Pancake on DE on off tackle run, problem was that he pancaked him right in the hole and the RB fell down on top of them. Solid inside seal on DT on off tackle run. Stack and shed by DT, just got under Pope’s pads and jacked him up. Solid job in pass pro on DE, actually kept his arms on him the entire time, well one arm at least. Nice job pulling around the TE and burying the DB on RB sweep, sprung RB for a long 70 yard TD. False start penalty. Doing his thing where he just shoves the DE instead of holding his block, guy able to redirect and pressure the QB. This was up and down tape once again.


    TLDR:
    You see a decent athlete with good power, but I think he’s definitely moving inside to OG in the NFL, he has almost zero edge protection ability. Was babysat with a TE, sometimes two, quite often. If an OL coach can get him to play lower and little more in control, he can be a force as a power blocking RG. He’s not great blocking in space, generally because he’s flailing and out of control, but when he connects on his blocks, people go flying. Best as a positional blocker, but he has the power to drive block as well. I don’t see him as draftable, too many issues, but should make it into my Top 300, there is some developmental upside here providing his length and athleticism checks out to some degree (It did, enticing developmental RG).

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the ATLANTA FALCONS sign:

    OT JOSHUA MILES, MORGAN STATE


    Joshua Miles is #297 on my Top 300 Big Board.



    No tapework on Morgan State. This guy is interesting because he went to the Shrine and they had him play OG where he mostly struggled. He was an OT at Morgan State. His measurements and testing at the Combine suggest he can stick at OT. This is a size/speed guy with excellent length and explosion testing. I really wanted to get around to his tape just to see him in action, but ran out of time to circle back around to some of these small school guys against powderpuff competition. He could go much higher than this if a team brings him in, works him out, and likes what it sees. Being a true armchair scout with this guy, just looking at the peripherals, he looks pretty damn interesting as a developmental guy.

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the KANSAS CITY CHIEFS sign:

    S DONOVAN WILSON, MISSISSIPPI STATE


    Donovan Wilson is #295 on my Top 300 Big Board.



    S DONOVAN WILSON TEXAS AM

    Clemson (2018): Playing only cover two unless he’s blitzing. Exclusively cover two early on, athleticism pretty average. Had an outside WR run a ten yard dig right in front of him, Wilson wasn’t able to charge up quick enough to make the tackle, and then the WR ran across the field and up the far sideline for a huge gain. Wilson was not even close to catching up with him. Blitz from deep safety, got frozen with RPO, slight pressure on the QB. Off tackle run, charged up from safety spot and gave him a shoulder block, no attempt to wrap up at all. Decent job reading swing pass to RB in the flat, charged up from safety, was in position to make a play but RB dropped the pass. Able to make tackle down the sideline on RB to save TD, still no wrap up, just kind of pushed him down. Big hit on RB on inside run down near goal line, came in laterally to the far hash and dropped a shoulder on him. Cover two, got caught looking at the playaction in the backfield, WR on Go route down sideline, got behind the CB for a big gain, Wilson not back deep in support like he was supposed to be. QB scramble up middle, Wilson charges up, turns sideways, and tries to spear him with his shoulder, the QB just sidestepped it can kept going, Wilson fell on his face. This guy sucks at tackling. Kind of sucks at everything so far. Finally a wrap up tackle on a shovel pass down to the goal line, came at the RB from the side with a solid wrap up tackle. So, we know he can do it. Blitz from deep safety, unblocked, QB spun off his tackle attempt where he and a teammate collided instead. Blitz again from deep safety depth, untouched, had a shot at the QB but got sidestepped and whiffed his sack attempt. Walled off and driven back by the RB lead blocking on a designed QB run. Play ended with the QB running over Wilson, though he also was tackled on the play. Not really much to see here on this tape. Wilson is a decent athlete, very average, and he probably looked best running straight ahead on his blitzes. He’s not a good fundamental tackler, he blew several tackles in this game, and missed opportunities on even more than that. Initial impression is that he gets the JAG forehead stamp.

    Auburn (2018): Playing cover two. Charged up the field on a lateral throw to the WR in the flat that then hit another WR on a crossing route for a TD right behind where Wilson should have been. No biggie, trick play, everyone gets fooled sometimes. Decent tackle on RB on off tackle run, RB pretty much ran into him at his safety spot, but the RB was going full speed and Wilson did not shy away and brought him down. Part of the collection of Aggies that blew an open field tackle on WR Davis late in the game, he just kind of pivoted away from the inside mass of defenders on a slant, spun back outside and ran up the sideline for a huge gain. That play was largely why they lost the game. So, that’s it for notes. The entire game Wilson sat back deep in Cover two while the front seven destroyed the non-existent Auburn OL and made the QB throw hot reads extensively. Two key plays decided this game, one early and one late, and Wilson could have stopped both of them if he was more disciplined. As it stands, he’s out there playing, but he’s just a guy. Makes no plays of impact except when he fails to make a play at all, then it just negatively impacts his own team such as in this game.

    Mississippi (2018): Playing cover two. Came up to help on quick out route, managed to overrun the play and let the WR get up the sideline for some YAC. Off man coverage on TE at inside slot, pretty awkward in coverage, just kind of bear hugged him at his break point, lucky there was no flag. Solid tackle on TE heading up the sideline. Wilson does not believe in wrapping up, he comes in with that shoulder almost every time. Walled off and driven back at second level by TE on off tackle run. Crossing route, Wilson went full chicken **** and wanted no part of WR Brown coming full speed at him, he took an awkward angle and whiffed on his tackle attempt. What that really was, was Wilson trying to make it look like he just sucks rather than he was scared. However, Wilson is multi-talented and showed us both things. Decent clean up tackle on RB at far sideline, kind of yoked him around the neck but got him down. I guess Wilson is supposed to be a strong safety enforcer type, that probably explains why he tries to go big with the shoulder hits. At this point, I think he’s a special teams guy if anything, and he needs to learn to wrap up. Strange play where Wilson charges up on an off tackle run, has the RB right in front of him, decides to just kamikaze into the pulling OG instead, meanwhile RB just kept on going down the field. This time Wilson decided he was going to try and pop Brown on a crossing route, pretty sure Wilson went splat on Brown’s chest. Cover two, Go route by outside WR though inside the numbers, Wilson drifts over and has the INT go off his fingertips. Looked like he just misjudged the ball and where he needed to be, QB overthrew the WR, should have been an easy INT. TE running full speed down the seam with the ball, Wilson dodged that tackle as well. He’s really selective for an enforcer.


    TLDR:
    He’s not a very good safety, definitely can’t be drafted as one. His best chance is as a special teams guy, could be solid in that role if he tests well, which he looks like a decent athlete. He likes to hit smaller guys, that’s generally what return guys are. If someone can teach Wilson how to wrap up, he could have a career as a gunner and extremely deep bench safety. (Top notch intangibles, has been impacted in the pre-draft process due to a sports hernia surgery. Testing numbers probably not reflective of his athleticism, on tape though, solid athlete. Not sure how much that hernia issue impact the tape I did on him either. Might be a guy teams that dig deeper into his tape feel better about. Still don't have a 40 time on record for him which is a problem as well).

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the OAKLAND RAIDERS sign:

    LB MALIK CARNEY, NORTH CAROLINA


    Malik Carney is #291 on my Top 300 Big Board.



    DE MALIK CARNEY NORTH CAROLINA

    California (2018); Playing DE. Starting at LDE in a 43 defense. Nice inside spin move on the RT, but ball already out or that would have been a sack. Dropped in man coverage on the TE in the flat. Able to slide off the RTs angle block and essentially have the RB run right into his arms for a stuff. Has some quick twitch to him, but not in the sense of a first step off the snap. His speed rush around the edge leaves a lot to be desired. Did a jump cut inside where he was able to loop around the LG before he knew what was happening, ran right at the QB and tagged him, somehow not getting the sack or not trying to tackle him at all. Not sure what he was thinking. Left him unblocked on read option, he crashed inside on the QB who for whatever reason kept the ball and got stuffed. Inside spin move on RT to redirect off arc rush and stuff run on 4th down. Really nice play, got some good depth with the original speed rush and then just spun inside to stuff the RB. Coverage sack on QB, just kind of ran into him. Fought through RT’s attempt to down block him, able to get penetration and slow RB down for team to tackle for no gain. Sack on QB, fell off the block by the LT when QB stepped up in the pocket and able to jump on his back. Fought through angle block by RT and able to just pop into the backfield and have the RB waiting right there to be tackled. I’ll say this for the Cal RB, he goes right where that holes supposed to be, and if a defender shows up instead, he goes right down. Crashed inside on naked bootleg, QB able to get around the outside for chunk gain. Pressure late, wasn’t really blocked on the play, QB rolled into him. Had some flashes at times, just looked really slow on the arc rush. If his gimmick plays like stunts or spins didn’t fool the OL, he was shut down. He did play pretty well against the run though, was consistently able to beat the RT’s angle blocks. Suggests he has decent power. Despite all that, not really sold on him as a draftable prospect yet.

    Miami (2018); Playing DE. Starting at RDE in 43 defense. A little oblivious to the run, was busy trying to drive through the LT and RB literally went right by him, he had no idea. Lined up at OLB on 3rd down and blitzed off the edge, tried to swat down the pass. Honestly, looks a lot better when he’s standing up and playing OLB than DE, has good open field speed, fluid runner. As an inline DE so far, he just runs into the LT and stays blocked the entire play. Speed rush off the edge is doing nothing, has an inside spin move, but that hasn’t gotten him off the LT St.Louis’ blocks yet. Stunt inside the LG for a QB pressure, the OC actually picked him up and pushed him wide, but he flushed the QB out into a scramble and gave chase. Worked through the RB block from backside pursuit and stuffed RB on inside run for minimal gain. Superb inside spin move to beat the LT and stuff RB in backfield. That was fast and sudden, really nice move. Did it again on the very next play for a strip sack, absolutely destroyed the RT. I mean, it’s a really great spin move, it comes out of nowhere and he comes out of it full speed ahead. Nice job shoving the RT back into the RB on outside run, strung it out and ruined the play. Nice quick redirect, just hopped inside the LT after starting on an outside rush, able to trip up RB for minimal gain. He’s flashing good athleticism and quickness at times, stays blocked the majority of the game, but you can see some moldable clay to work with. Able to beat the LT on a speed arc rush for a QB pressure, did not even try to dip, bend, or flatten, just kind of ran right by the QB and flushed him out. Did his jumpcut thing where he hops inside the LT, he does it really quick, LT is pretty much powerless, and he stripped the RB to cause a fumble. Good hustle chasing the QB about 30 yards before making the tackle. Crashed down inside on cut back run, TE sealed him, and RB able to get around him for chunk gain. Interesting guy, has some quickness and athleticism to work with, but generally isn’t very good on a play by play basis as a 43 DE, which is where he spent most of this game. Would like to see him at OLB a little more, get a feel for if he can play there. Think he looked more athletic in this game than the California tape and definitely showed enough raw potential to be drafted at some point late.

    NC State (2018): Playing DE. Starting off at LDE in a 43 defense. Lost contain on jet sweep, he saw it coming, was just super slow to react to it. Jet sweep again, this time he didn’t see it coming nor did he know it happened. Pancaked on goal line by RG, RB ran right through his spot for a 1 yard TD. Nice job stepping over cut block by LT, flowed down the line and stuffed the RB on inside run. Got caught cheating inside on RB sweep, RB able to get around him to the edge for a chunk gain. Would say in all these games, he’s generally not great at playing contain. Looped inside on stunt around the OC, came in free for a strip sack. Pancaked by RT on inside run. Powered through block by TE to work down the line and tackle RB on inside run for minimal gain. Walled off by RG on short TD run, went right by him. Stack and shed on RG to stuff run on outside sweep. That’s been the game so far. One good play, one bad play, often on the same play ran at different times. Fought through block by TE to flow down line and eventually tackle the RB. Inside spin move on RG to get to the QB when he was starting to scramble forward, not sure how they marked that, but sack in my book. Stack and shed on RT to help stuff outside sweep. Pretty lackluster tape here, completely shut down on his pass rush except for his stunts inside.



    TLDR:
    Didn’t really flash much, if at all, in terms of pass rushing moves or potential. Was very inconsistent in the run game, probably as inconsistent as he has been on any of these tapes. On this tape alone (NC State), there was nothing that would suggest a draftable prospect. The California tape was largely the same way. I thought the Miami tape he showed some flashes and a coach could feel like maybe he could develop him. For me, he’s only really interesting if he can develop as an OLB. The Combine will give an idea about his athletic ability. I thought he looked best when playing in space, I’m kind of eyeballing a Strong Outside LB role in a 34 defense for him. If he shows he has enough athleticism for that, I’d draft him late and develop him. Not very interested in him as a 43 DE though. (Came in small, though fine for an OLB role which is what he clearly is going to be at this point, and tested relatively below average across the board).

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  • Mat'hir Uth Gan
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    Following the 2019 Orange Mane Mock Draft,

    the CINCINNATI BENGALS sign:

    OT BRANDON KNIGHT, INDIANA


    Brandon Knight is #289 on my Top 300 Big Board.




    OT BRANDON KNIGHT INDIANA

    Virginia (2018): Playing RT. Looks to have decent feet and quickness, good pitter patter in his pass drop, easily gets to the second level on the linebackers. Kind of overpowered by the DE, worked back into the QB, DE able to put a hit on the QB as well. Thought Knight just kind of set up too far back, pinched his QB, and then got overpowered on that play. Great inside seal on DE on 30 yard TD run, turned him and literally just shoved him down inside. Solid cut block on DE. DE sliced inside Knight on off tackle run to stuff play. He’s having problems squaring people up with his blocks, even when doing something simple like down blocking, his hands are hitting wide and the DL is able to roll off or just redirect around him. Plays with decent leverage, good forward lean when drive blocking. Biggest issue is that he’s not stout at all in pass pro, seemingly gets walked back every time. Worried about arm length as well, it looks like he has short arms and that is part of his problem. Combine measurements important with him. Inside swim for a QB pressure, that was too easy, he pretty much just ran at him and sliced inside. Doesn’t hold his blocks at all, just does his shove thing, which just allows the defender to redirect and make the tackle. The athleticism with Knight looks good enough, literally nothing else does. Technique is a mess, especially his hand placement, and he has a huge lack of stoutness in his pass set, doesn’t hold his blocks long enough. Lots of issues. Positives would be the athleticism and feet along with being a capable drive blocker in the run game.

    Michigan (2018): Playing RT. I can appreciate his cut blocking, it’s sudden and mostly effective. Knight looks like a good athlete, everything is quick twitch. Solid job on stunt by DT, blocked the DE and then the DT when he came around, twofer on that play. Asked him to climb to the second level on off tackle run, managed to whiff his block on two separate LBs. Bull rush by LB Uche right back into the QB. Tried to reach block on the DT, got there fine, but just shoved him and the DT pretty much acted like nothing happened, knifed inside and stuffed the run. Blitz by LB Hudson off the edge, completely smoked Knight with a speed rush for a QB hit. Tried that same blitz again, this time Knight able to shove him wide. Nice reach block on the DT, able to not only reach, but get inside and turn him while walling him off from the hole, RB ran inside for a 10 yard TD. Really nice play, best rep from Knight. That’s a level of athleticism that most OTs simply don’t have and a play most can’t make. False start, confused on play. Holding call, basically body slammed the DE Paye for no useful reason. Downblock on DT on inside run, good push, drove him out of the lane. Doing a pretty good job against DE Gary when they match up, but gets destroyed on bull rushes by the 240lb LB Uche every time he rushes. Gary is really trying to beat him, he’s slicing inside, he’s using a rip move, an upper cut move, and none of it is working, Knight is doing a number on him in pass pro. Nice job against Uche on the inside move, mirrored him and shut it down. Completely trucked by LB Bush on blitz off edge for a sack. Knight doing a great job picking up stunts in this game. Knight is doing a good job with his positional blocks, he turns the defender well, but he sucks at holding the blocks long enough. If he would just stop shoving them and continue blocking for an extra couple of seconds, some of these runs would be massive. This guy is frustrating, but the things he is doing wrong are all fixable. The athleticism and natural skill he has is what can’t be taught. This is a legit sleeper if his measurements and length check out. Gary finally beat him with a bull rush and inside swim for a sack at the very end of the game. Due to a lack of tape, this is all I’ve got to evaluate Knight.


    TLDR:
    Overall, he looks to have plus athleticism and quick feet, very good when positional blocking, can get to his spot quickly and turn the defender. Needs to learn to block through the whistle and how to hold a block instead of just shoving the defender and letting him redirect. Shows ability to drive block, plays with good forward lean and leverage in the run game. Struggles the most in pass pro, sets up a little too far inside to pinch the QB and is susceptible to bull rushes. Think it’s probably a technique thing with playing too upright in his pass sets. If Knight’s length and athleticism checks out, he’s a developmental sleeper at OT. If he has to kick inside at OG, he’s a LG prospect due to his mobility and will probably need some time to learn how to hunker down against the bigger, stronger interior guys he will be facing. (Still only limited workout numbers, but everything he has done suggests a plus athlete with good strength, 27 reps. Started at Indiana as a TE, so that hints at good athleticism too. Some pre-draft reports have teams looking at him as an OC, that would mesh well with his athleticism. Length at 34" checks out if a team wants to keep him at OT. I think he probably goes considerably higher than where I ranked him. Some of that was due to finding tape on Indiana being very difficult, hence just the two games).

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