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  • I had a feeling someone was gonna poach Mullen, loved the value.

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    • Originally posted by BroncosfanGuy View Post
      Mullen must have been socalorado target. He was on here a few minutes ago telling rod to hurry up and now he gone
      Yep. MF'ers.
      Then I had to once again sit for a half hour and agonize over picking.

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      • With the 67th overall selection in the 2019 Orange Mane NFL Mock Draft,

        the SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS select;

        DE JOE JACKSON, MIAMI


        Joe Jackson is the #59 overall prospect on my Top 300 Big Board


        DE JOE JACKSON MIAMI

        LSU (2018): Playing DE. Starting at RDE in a 43 defense. High effort guy, he’s chasing everything, bouncing off people, and generally playing like his hair is somewhat on fire. Not sure I like his approach so far, he’s not very strong but he keeps just charging into the chest of the LT, that plays into LSU’s strength. Some of that is contain, but even on passing downs, not really trying to get around them, at least no early on. Appears to have a solid first step off the line. Beat the LT with an elite caliber inside spin move, it was fast and sudden, and he came out of it running full speed at the QB. Has some speed on the arc, can flatten out at the top once he gets an angle on the OT, did so for a QB hit. Loving his effort so far, he is non-stop, always trying to get in on the play no matter where it is. Has been getting some double teams at times. Biggest issues is that he seems like he can be easily overpowered and neutralized. He’s not a finesse guy, because he doesn’t shy away from contact at all, but he’s definitely at his best when he’s running around blockers. He’s getting some pressure at times just due to his relentless grinding on the OT, just keeps edging him back bit by bit. Rip move on LT to disengage and help tackle RB. Beat the LT by slicing inside on redirect to help impact inside run. Followed that up by stressing the LT on the arc and then just bull rushing him into the QB for a pressure. Caught crashing down inside and RB got the edge for a chunk gain. Beat LT clean on speed rush around the arc, not showing any ability or desire to dip and bend, just kind of uses his initial burst and athleticism to get an angle and then kind of flattens out a little bit. Still hauling ass every play, chasing everything, even in a blowout loss late in the 4th quarter. Shows ability to get off blocks and make plays some of the time, his effort alone allows him to work through a block every now and then, he also does a pinball thing where he just gets shoved around but bounces off and redirects before the OT can shift to mirror him. Ran through the TE’s block to stuff the RB. So, I saw a very good athlete with excellent burst off the snap, he might be more of a straight line guy, didn’t show a lot of quickness outside of one spin move, didn’t flash any ability to dip and bend the arc. Effort and desire was elite, he was the Energizer bunny the entire game trying to get involved in every play. And he made several. Biggest issue is that he was overpowered a lot throughout this game and neutralized by the bigger LSU OL.

        FSU (2018): Playing DE. Bull rush on LT for a pressure. Lined him up extra wide, just ran right around the LT for a sack. Has some serious straight line speed for his size. TE screen, he chased the play down and made the tackle 30 yards downfield. Getting moved around a bit by the TE blocking inline. TE lunged, Jackson ole’d him and hopped around him all at once and stuffed the RB for a loss. He does have some quick twitch in him, would like to see him use that more on his pass rush. Stressed the LT around the arc, came back the next play with an outside in move, QB stepped up in the pocket at the same time, easy sack. He’s killing the FSU LT, he’s too fast and can around him when he wants, and he’s also beating him with the bull rush because the guy is so off balance. Putting the TE on him, sometimes that works, but he just ran him over for a QB pressure. One negative is that since he’s in a penetration frenzy, he’s losing contain at times and they are just running right around his end. He’s so fast off the snap, they left him unblocked as the back side DE and he almost took the handoff. Definitely needs to get stronger, RB has ran through several arm tackle attempts now. I’m not outlining it any longer, but he continues to just destroy the LT on the arc rush for QB hits and pressures. They are putting RBs, TEs, and sometimes both over there with the LT to try and slow him down. His first step is borderline elite. Bull rush for pressure, tried to swat ball on screen, got a piece of it. Shot the gap and split the double team by the LT and LG for a pressure. Another arc rush where he just ran by the LT, this time he decleated the QB for a strip sack. Or it should have been, they said his arm was moving forward on review. Stack and shed on LT, stuffed RB for a loss. Has been mediocre against the run in this game, that was a solid play. This was a tough game to watch because the FSU QB was destroyed play after play, it was a bloodbath, a shark feeding frenzy by the Miami DL the entire freaking game. If it wasn’t Jackson smashing him, the QB was getting crushed by another Hurricane. Jackson continues to be primarily a straight line speed guy with an elite first step. He does have some pass rushing moves, he tends to just try and run around the OT and win with speed. Unlike the LSU game, he could handle the OT in this game in terms of power, so he wasn’t pushed around nearly as much. He’s more of a pass rush specialist type than a run defender, he’ll get caught cheating on contain because he wants those sacks. Struggled a little bit at times getting off the TE blocks. I view him as a finesse pass rusher, though that’s selling his effort and willingness to embrace contact short.

        Pittsburgh (2018); Playing DE. Only plays RDE in a 43 defense, have not seen him switch sides during a game. Destroyed on fly sweep right around his end for a chunk gain, didn’t recognize it until the WR was long past him, was too busy crashing down inside. Slid down inside to DT, ran an arc rush around the LG, he had no chance of stopping that, and smashed the QB for a sack. Has excellent burst and closing speed. This guy is an excellent athlete. PITT has some big OTs, Jackson is struggling in the run game again, got pulverized by a pancake on an off tackle run his way. 3rd and 1 play, sacrificed himself and blew up the lead block FB in the backfield, rest of team swarmed the RB and forced a punt. Getting handled by the TE in pass pro, that just bothers me. A guy with his athleticism shouldn’t be getting handled by TEs game after game. Jet sweep and he was ready for it this time, was across the line and waiting for the WR with his arms wide open. LT Millin just can’t handle him, he’s going around him and slicing under him almost at will. Decided they weren’t going to block him on read option play, he just went ahead and smashed the QB for a loss. Dropped him in zone coverage on the slot WR, put a nice jam on him, but it was a running play. Interesting to see him drop, hasn’t done that in the games prior. Lined him up at NT and had him do a straight bull rush on the OC, he was freeing up the DTs to get pressure and Willis got the sack, but he moved that OC with his bull rush as well. Rolling the pocket away from him now, along with extensive TE blockage. Sliced inside that TE to string out a RB sweep, teammate cleaned it up for a big loss. Continues to get caught with his pants down on contain at times, PITT’s best play is to run right around Jackson. He doesn’t crash down and cheat every play, far from it, but they’ve caught him a couple times now. 3rd and 1 play, ran down the FB from backside pursuit to stuff the run. Continues to struggle with this TE’s blocks, Stack and shed on LT to help clog up and stuff run. Jackson has to be in amazing shape, he never comes out, not for a single play, and he goes hard on every play of the game, runs all over the place. In the 4th quarter despite all that, he’s still going full speed. Nice inside swim on the LT that would have been a sack but the safety beat him there from behind on a blitz. That’s fine, next play he just ran right around the LT and got the sack. Took him out for the night after that sack in this rout that wasn’t as close as the score even. Dominating tape again.


        TLDR:
        He’s a little hit or miss in the run game, which is kind of his thing, but he’s lights out elite as a speed pass rusher. I’m annoyed he struggles to get off blocks by TEs at times, and I’m annoyed he doesn’t dip or bend the arc. It seems like he’s athletic enough to do both, so there might be even more upside to gain here. His first step is elite, his spin move is elite, and his straight line speed is elite, also his endurance and effort are about as good as it gets. He’s a unique talent, I expect he’ll blow up the Combine. I would probably compare him to a poor man's Myles Garrett, I think Garrett was a lot better against the run, Jackson isn’t bad, he’s just kind of average because he can get pushed around by blockers. Whoever drafts him is getting him to rush the QB though, he should be dynamite at that from Day 1.

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        • Wow.....this is a new record. MUG loves all three of my picks so far, that's never happened.

          Scribe NERVOUS

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          • With the 68th overall selection in the 2019 Orange Mane NFL Mock Draft,

            the NEW YORK JETS select;

            OT TYTUS HOWARD, ALABAMA STATE


            Tytus Howard is the #102 overall prospect on my Top 300 Big Board

            OT TYTUS HOWARD ALABAMA STATE


            Troy (2017): Playing RT. Kickslide is ok, probably a little too choppy and animated, but he gets solid depth. Pretty big guy, has a huge bubble butt, should help with leverage. Doing well with positional blocking, pretty much just gets to his spot quickly and walls his guy off. Pancake on LB blitzing up B gap. Pulled him to pick up the LB blitzing up the A gap between the LG and OC, did a nice job smashing that guy and protecting the QB. Showing a little bit of athleticism, did a nice job on a stretch block on a sweep to run and control the DE laterally before quickly turning and walling him off. Caught lunging in pass pro, DE was able to bounce off and redirect around him for a pressure. Howard a little late on reacting to the secondary move. Bullrush by the DE for a pressure, shoved Howard way back into the QB. Solid job picking up the stunt. Seems to be mostly an athletic finesse type OT. Bullrushed for another pressure. I think my initial thought about him being solid in leverage due to his build is incorrect. He’s struggling against power, and the scrub DE abusing him isn’t that big. Did a nice job turning the DE, but he turned him loose too soon and he was able to shoot back in and make the stuff. Caught lunging on drive block, DE ripped him down and stuffed the run. Definitely getting lazy late in this game, not bending at the knees, he’s just bending at the waste and losing all leverage. Completely ineffective late, clearly tired and exhausted. Hope he looks much better on the 2018 tape. Saw a big guy with good athleticism that is insanely raw on this tape. Flashed on the pulls and reach blocks. Definitely someone to draft, sit, and develop.

            Auburn (2018): Playing RT. Cut block attempt laughably bad. He’s a big guy, stance is pretty high, but he has good feet and covers a lot of ground protecting the arc. Bullrushed by OLB into QB for a pressure, just steadily walked back. Solid job getting out on MLB at second level. Doing a decent job mirroring the DEs and slapping down their hands. Not showing much power, but he grapples in the run game and definitely ties his guy up. Likes to grab guys by the shirt right around their throat area, hasn’t been called yet, but some of this is blatant holding. Solid reach and angle block while pulling around the OC on off tackle run to the left side. Pretty nice athleticism and block. Has generally been pretty solid in this game in both run blocking and pass blocking, the rest of his team has been absolutely destroyed though. Finally called for a hold on run play. Nice block on LB to help spring a decent run off tackle. He’s battling with the Auburn front seven consistently and holding his own. He’s not dominating by any stretch, mostly just positional blocking or tying guys up by grappling with them and holding them to be honest. The effort is good, athleticism looks solid at worst, and the strength looks decent. Still plays too high, but this is much better than the 2017 tape. Nice job against inside spin move, stayed centered on the DE. Sat out most of the 4th quarter in the blow out. Thought he held his own, battled the entire game, was rarely beaten. Got away with a boatload of holding though. Good athleticism for a RT, probably better in pass pro at this point, but did his job in the run game in limited opportunities.

            Grambling State (2018): Playing RT and LT. Nice downblock on DT, drove him across the field, RB cut back behind him for a decent gain. Nice moving block on DE on outside sweep, tied him up and kept pushing him just long enough for the RB to scoot by. Is really shoving the DL of Grambling around at times. Looks unbeatable around the edge by this level of competition, he’s riding these guys really wide. Kickslide looks great, covers a lot of ground. This is dominating tape, he’s rag dolling these guys and sealing them off as needed at other times. They can’t come close to beating him on the pass rush, he’s just much more athletic than the DEs, plus much bigger in size. Good feet, does a nice job on the mirror. Continues to play a little high at times, but not really hurting him in this game. Moved to LT early in the 2nd quarter for one drive, did not look as comfortable. Back to RT on the next drive and stayed there through the 3rd quarter when I called it quits on this game. He absolutely overpowered and manhandled the defense in the run game, sometimes drive blocking people twenty yards down the field. It was ridiculous. In pass pro, it was like he was toying with them, they never got close. Didn’t see any holds in this game, didn’t need to, some of the times he’d just knock them down with his initial punch. Clearly a man amongst boys talent wise.
            Has good athleticism and feet for RT, might be able to even play LT, but looked noticeably uncomfortable when switched there during the game.


            TLDR:
            Thought he looked much better than the 2017 tape, took a big step in terms of power and technique. Still plays high when he gets tired or lazy, that’s a real thing, and people can get under him and overpower him. The Auburn tape is all that really matters though, he played with those guys and held his own. He’s not nearly as dominating or strong as he looked against Grambling, but he’s not a liability. Legit prospect, might need a year or two to iron out the final kinks. Curious to see his athletic testing because he looks like he has some sweet feet. Ideal developmental RT or swing tackle as long as he measures in right. Not as good or polished as Brandon Parker from last draft who went at pick #65, but these developmental FCS guys can get snatched early.

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            • With the 69th overall selection in the 2019 Orange Mane NFL Mock Draft,

              my hometown Jacksonville Jaguars select;

              CB TRAYVON MULLEN, CLEMSON


              Trayvon Mullen is the #25 overall prospect on my Top 300 Big Board



              CB TRAYVON MULLEN CLEMSON

              Texas AM (2018): Playing mostly LCB, but switches sides. Mostly played press man in this game, some zone, some press bail. Nice job coming up from zone coverage to chop down the FB chugging down the sideline. Press man, inside slant, perfect coverage, QB went elsewhere. Does have some trouble getting off WR blocks at times in the run game. Press man on Go route, no jam, does show decent stop start ability to run with WR as he tried to deke Mullen short and get open deep. Press man, lunged and missed his jam on corner route, no harm, QB scrambled on play. Press man, good jam, pushed WR inside, held underneath position. Press bail, nice job changing course on off tackle run and charging back up to upend the RB on a diving low tackle. Run blitz from outside CB position, able to help make tackle on inside run. Walled off outside by WR on QB scramble down sideline. Not impressed with Mullen’s effort to get off blocks. Press man, tight coverage on Go route, QB was staring down WR desperately wanting to throw that direction, but was strip sacked by the DE before he could. That play happened because Mullen had air tight coverage. I think he prefers to be in man coverage, looked to be frustrated he was tasked with zone on a long third down conversion. Press bail on curl route, QB not even looking his way. Mullen had zero balls thrown his way the entire game. Had mostly lockdown coverage from what I could tell. Does an ok job coming up in run support, does not seem scared of contact at all, willing to dive and chop down RBs and FBs.

              Boston College (2018): Playing mostly LCB. Mix Decent job coming off the edge of the line in run defense, TE walled him off but he played contain and forced the RB back inside. Charged up in run support and helped tackle RB Dillon for no gain. That’s a big RB, Mullen has no fear, always goes straight for the legs to chop them down and then grabs an ankle if that doesn’t work. Has been very effective so far. Press man, nice jam and tight coverage on Go route. Solid job staying home on reverse pass, able to pressure the WR and force him to throw it away. WR able to get Mullen to trip over his own feet on outside deke follow by a vertical route, had a few steps, but the QB didn’t see it. Decent job on read option play, helped limit QB to short gain, but needed to attack more aggressively to prevent the first down. Off man, intermediate slant, gain of 15 yards, Mullen tackled WR immediately. Dropped into shallow zone on 3rd and long, not tested. Zone drop, strong low tackle on TE to chop him down after a quick curl. Mullen is really good chopping people down at the legs, just puts his shoulder right on the shin. Might be susceptible to getting hurdled at some point though. Off man, intermediate out route, WR able to dust him pretty well with an inside deke, but came down with his toe out of bounds on the catch. Nice jam in press man on Go route, shoved the WR down inside and just would not let him get vertical on his route, made the QB take off and scramble for minimal gain. Press man, intermediate come back route, flawless coverage and able to swat down pass. Mullen is just filthy with his jam, this is a very physical CB that just completely re-routes WRs off the line. Swing pass to RB in the flat, came charging at Mullen full speed, Mullen just went low with a form tackle and chopped him down. Was not remotely scared of getting trucked. That was the backup RB though, considerably smaller than Dillon. Dropped in zone, intermediate slant, able to flow behind the WR and tackle him immediately after reception to limit the gain. It’s the end of the game, Clemson is up big, it’s basically a soft prevent at this point. Time to just evaluate tackling, and Mullen is really good for a CB at it. Impressive tape, mostly because he’s fearless and effective against the run. Physical teams are going to love him due to that, and he’s also dynamite as a press man CB with an exceptional jam.

              Alabama (2018): Playing mostly LCB. Zone drop, quick out by the TE, nice job coming up and chopping him down to limit the gain. Off man, intermediate our route for 10 yard gain, pushed WR out of bounds immediately on reception. Nothing Mullen could do there, perfect anticipatory throw by QB. Still struggles to get off WR blocks, for all the good he does in the run game, he sucks at that. Dropped in zone, able to come up and make TD saving tackle on RB, just chopped him down at the legs like normal. Press bail, WR with an option route cut off the vertical for a curl and able to get a 10 yard gain. Not much Mullen could do there, he mirrored him while staying over the top and protecting deep. Rotated the safeties and dropped Mullen into deep zone, completely fooled the QB who thought he had the slot WR on a seam route with no safety help, good speed getting deep by Mullen and able to run back and intercept the ball with a nice over the shoulder pick. Solid return on the play as well. Off man, read off tackle run, RB bounced it outside, Mullen with a nice job coming up and forcing the RB back inside into tacklers. Blitz off the edge, came in under the RDE who took the LT wide and blasted the QB for a strip sack. That was disguised perfectly as man coverage, the outside WR went in motion to the slot, Mullen followed him as if he was in man coverage and then just fired in on the blitz at the snap. Speed and burst look pretty good. Zone coverage, peeled off the vertical WR to smash into the RB underneath and make sure he couldn’t catch the pass. Off man, short drag route, nice job flowing around his own teammates and making a hard tackle right after the catch for a short gain. That could have gone for a lot more if he was picked by anyone on the play. Got dinged up during a scramble for a fumble in the middle of the 3rd quarter and that was a wrap for his day in this blowout win. Arguably was the defensive MVP for as long as he was in the game. Showed good versatility by being used in a variety of coverages, effective in all. Solid job against the run and tackling bigger TEs. Looked great on his lone blitz attempt.


              TLDR:
              This is a really good CB that probably excels best in press man, but shows good awareness and physicality in zone as well. Complete CB. I think he’s a total stud that every team in the NFL would want. Teams that want physical CBs that tackle are going to covet him even more.

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              • With the 70th overall selection in the 2019 Orange Mane NFL Mock Draft,

                the TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS select;

                CB SEAN BUNTING, CENTRAL MICHIGAN


                Sean Bunting is the #33 overall prospect on my Top 300 Big Board


                CB SEAN BUNTING CENTRAL MICHIGAN

                Kentucky (2018); Playing LCB. Nice two hand jam to keep WR from getting off the line. Very physical CB, he’s two hand jamming almost every snap. Off man, big cushion, WR with a deep post route, roasted Bunting and has several steps but QB threw a terrible ball. If he laid that up and let the WR run under it, that’s a long TD. Back to press man and the jam after that near miss. In tight at LB depth on run play, excellent job filling the hole, hit RB Snell low and square, knocked ball out for fumble. Off man in slot, solid coverage on inside slant, QB went elsewhere. Press man, short crossing route, tight coverage, QB went elsewhere. Press man, perfect coverage on post route, QB threw ball away. Press man, Go route, two handed jam, these WRs just can’t get off the line and into their route fast enough, QB wants to go that way at times, but Bunting is a beast at not giving them any type of clean release. Press man, WR able to beat the jam by slicing inside, but Bunting showed almost instant transition ability and recovery speed to get right in his hip pocket on intermediate slant route. It’s only been one half of football, and it’s Kentucky, but this is really impressive. Press man, WR with an inside out deke on Go route up sideline, able to sort of beat the jam, Bunting with excellent recovery and coverage, got called for a legit PI with a jersey tug, WR just missed the diving reception so that probably did make the difference. Even on that play though, the coverage was excellent. Press man, insanely aggressive lunging jam, just jolted the WR, perfect coverage on slant route. Zone drop, hasn’t done many of those, short out route, came firing up and swatted ball away. Bunting is really good, has good speed, transitions well, instincts looks good. This is a shutdown CB if he can play this way against top end talent. This is not top end talent but it’s about as good as he’ll get. Press man, two hand jam, Go route up sideline, pinched the WR all the way out of bounds running up sideline, QB went elsewhere. This is clearly 1st round CB play, if you have a stud going against lesser talent, this is what it should look like, dominating effort so far. Press man, 15 yard dig route, got tripped by the WR on the break. Only catch he gave up all game. This was pretty similar to Mike Hughes from last draft, very physical press CB but looks to have excellent athleticism.

                Buffalo (2018): Playing LCB. Zone, quick out route, WR unable to catch low throw. Bunting was firing forward and would have made tackle for minimal gain. Walled off by WR on long off tackle run that went right by him. This is something I noticed a little last game as well, he’s willing to get involved in the run game, but he is not good getting off WR blocks. Zone coverage, able to charge up and make nice wrap up tackle on RB turning the corner on a sweep. That he does well for a CB. No WR in his face, good against the run. WR in his face, useless against the run. Press bail on Go route, good coverage, QB wanted to take a shot but had to check down instead. Outside sweep, Bunting might still be locked up on the WR’s block. And again. At this point, it’s safe to assume he’ll never get off a WR block. Ever. Really annoyed WR Johnson is out for this game, that would have been at least one solid WR to compare Bunting against. In tight at LB depth, no WRs on his side of formation, off tackle run, able to dodge the hback’s lead block and jump on the back of the RB where he was given a piggy back ride for 15 yards. Inside draw near goal line, WR able to drive block him into the end zone. Bootleg pass, Bunting with the triple jam on the WR refusing to let him get a release off the line, completely screwed the play up, QB was about to get sacked but then did his Josh Allen impersonation and made magic happen with an insane throw down the field at the last second for a chunk gain. Bunting did all he could on that play though. Press man, deep Go route up sideline, had perfect coverage but QB dropped a flawless bomb right into the bucket for a huge gain, Bunting never was able to turn his head around, WR did a nice job of not tipping off the pass was about to arrive as well. Blitz from boundary CB, charged right into an off tackle run, perfect wrap up form tackle to stuff the RB for a loss. Off man, read WR screen, unable to power through the WR blocking him though to make the play. Press bail, QB tried to throw the ball away under heavy pressure and had his arm hit, fluttering duck floated down to Bunting for the INT at the sideline, did a nice job of making sure his feet were in and made a nice hands catch on the ball. Tried a rip move to disengage from the WR’s block on an inside run, didn’t work, but he tried at least. Off tackle run, RB coming right at him, Bunting squatted down to get ready for a form tackle and RB cut back inside, left Bunting looking a little silly and afraid of contact. He’s not. Off tackle run, Bunting charged up, TE walled him off, 15 yard TD. Alright, so this tape showed some warts, specifically in the run game, Bunting has to be considered a net negative against the run even though he’s willing and does make some plays at times. He’s just too easily removed from the play by WRs. Got beat on the one play, but that’s just a tip of the cap to the QB and WR, largely was dynamite in coverage once again, continues to be nasty with his jam at the line. Flashed some ability in zone as well.

                Toledo (2018): Playing LCB. Off man, Go route, feet tangled with WR, both fell down, pass incomplete. Press man, WR able to beat the jam and get a decent release up the sideline, Bunting able to recovery and run in lockstep down the field, QB went elsewhere. This is what is pretty fascinating with Bunting, he’s dynamite and ultra-physical at the line, but if the WR someone does get around his jam, he appears to have excellent speed and coverage ability to quickly make up any ground and shut him down that way as well. This might be a special prospect, at least in coverage. In run support, not so much. Press man, 20 yard come back route, coverage was perfect and pass was contested, just a flawless throw and catch on the play. Press man in slot, wouldn’t even let the WR get into his wheel route up the sideline, nasty two hand jam. Press man, Go route, WR able to get a half step up sideline, QB overthrew ball. That was really tight coverage again, would have taken a perfect pass, would like to see Bunting get his head around and play the ball though. This is a glaring deficiency in his man coverage. Press bail, 10 yard comeback route, easy completion, Bunting with the tackle. Toledo appeared to make an effort to work the other side of the field the entire game. They have some decent WRs, Bunting mostly shut them down with his coverage.



                TLDR:
                Overall, he’s a very enticing press CB prospect that also flashed ability in zone at times. He’s a fundamentally solid tackler, his size and slender frame just limit him at times, especially when trying to get off WR blocks ,which is where he struggles the most. In terms of raw coverage, he’s excellent, though the competition on these tapes was lackluster. An area of concern is that he doesn’t play the ball when in man coverage, only the WR. Thus, not a lot of batted passes or interceptions, and WRs can fool him by not tipping the pass is on its way as well. In zone coverage, he’s much more dynamic in terms of reading the QB and making plays on the ball. Could see him appealing to any type of defense, but his press skills at the line really stand out. Athleticism will be key, but this reminds me a little of MJ Stewart last draft where I had never heard of the guy, did his tape, and was super impressed by a tight man coverage CB. Physicality with his jam reminds me of Hughes, but I don’t think Mike struggled getting off blocks anywhere close to this degree.

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                • Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post

                  Trayvon Mullen is the #25 overall prospect on my Top 300 Big Board
                  Oh yeah.


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                  • With the 71st overall selection in the 2019 Orange Mane NFL Mock Draft,

                    the greatest team on earth, the DENVER BRONCOS, select;

                    LB GERMAINE PRATT, NC STATE


                    Germaine Pratt is the #206 overall prospect on my Top 300 Big Board




                    LB GERMAINE PRATT NC STATE

                    Boston College (2018); Playing all LB spots in a 43 defense. Stays on field in nickel. Lined up at MLB, off tackle run to the left side, had to take a steep angle down the field to cut off the RB and push him out of bounds after a big gain. This was the backup RB. Pratt’s chase speed on that play looked like he was running in mud. Lined up at OLB on the side of the RB sweep they ran to, Pratt just shows very little speed on these outside runs, that play he was late to break towards the line and by the time he did, the RB easily had the edge and was around him. Blitz up middle for a QB pressure, unblocked, but QB side stepped him, and Pratt had to slam on the breaks and pretty much come to a complete stop before changing directions. Instincts are a tad slow compared to the other LBs I’ve done, athleticism appears to be average at best. That’s not a great combination. Initial impression is that he’s going to be limited to a two down LB role in the NFL. Pancaked on off tackle run by LT, a little late flying forward and just failed to see the LT pulling around coming at him. Solid job taking on the hback in the hole, falling off that lead block and tackling the RB for a five yard gain. Not great, but he was the only one making that play, could have gone for more. Nice job beating the pulling RG to the hole, able to stuff RB for no gain. Definitely like him at MLB that takes on the OGs the most so far. Decent job on the TE in the flat, forced QB to bounce the throw. Inside run, solid read on play, stuffed RB for short gain. The big issue with Pratt is that he doesn’t react instantly to the play, he takes a second or two to try and diagnose, so when he finally charges forward on these runs, a lot of his tackles are 3-5 yards down the field. It just makes him look slow both mentally and physically. Nice job cutting QB off on scramble around edge, good wrap up tackle. Delayed rush around the arc for a sack, showed decent burst there, once he read the RB staying in to block, he charged around. That was from 43 OLB. Nice job throwing off the TE’s block and stuffing screen play. Decent job powering through TE block near the goal line to help clog up the middle on inside run. Overall, had some splash plays. Thought he looked best as a thumper able to take on and defeat OGs. Instincts look slow compared to other LBs. Thought he did fine in his zone coverage drops, generally showed good awareness of who was in his area and flowed with them. Plays every snap.

                    Clemson (2018): Playing OLB and ILB in 43 defense. Solid job reading off tackle run, working through the middle of the field and tackling the RB for short gain. Will follow the RB in man coverage wherever he lines up, including out wide. Announcers talking about how Pratt is a former safety that gained weight and moved to LB, this being his first year starting at the position. That’s definitely something to keep in mind. Might explain why his instincts appear slow. Continues to be really slow to react to the play, he has to actually see it and confirm it before he charges up in the run game, that really limits his effectiveness. Walled off by RT on short goal line run, waited too long to charge the hole, almost seemed like he was sitting waiting on the RT to get free and come block him. Able to flow off the block from the RT and limit the RB to a short gain. Put him in man coverage on the slot WR Renfrow, that went about as well as you’d expect. Easy completion on a deep out on 3rd and long. Decent job reading toss sweep, shoved off the TE’s pathetic block attempt, helped stuff RB for no gain. End around where the LT got out and sealed Pratt inside until he was able to fall off and make the tackle ten yards down the field. Delayed inside blitz, NC State send two LBs up the A gap, Pratt came second and had a free path to the QB for the sack. Having some issues with these OTs just mashing him in the run game, needs to learn to avoid blocks at times, he tends to just freely run into them. Continues to look pretty good in zone coverage, safety history definitely explains how he flows with the receiver extremely well, especially out of breaks. So, on a 3rd and 1 play, Pratt sees the wide open off tackle hole, he’s lined up right in front of it at OLB. Instead of charging up and trying to force a punt, he literally sits still and lets the RB get the first down before stepping up and tackling him. That’s a crap play by a LB with no instincts or awareness. And that type of play manifests itself through each game. The debate with him as a prospect is can you develop instincts that clearly don’t exist in the NFL while not sabotaging the defense around him. I’m going to say no. Pratt is not going to be someone I am interested in at the LB position. If he runs well at the Combine, which I don’t expect, but he might, maybe he just looks slow because it takes him forever to decide to move, but if he times well, he might be enticing as a ST guy or subpackage coverage LB. Right now, too many other talented ILBs in this draft that come ready to plug and play while also looking solid in the passing game.

                    Syracuse (2018); Have to do this game because half his stats for the season came from it. I assume this will be him in his best form. I’m not impressed so far, change my mind. OG got on him at the second level and shoved him back ten yards. Pratt needs to learn how to disengage, if he can’t fall backwards off a block, he generally is stuck. QB scramble, ran right into Pratt for a loss. I think I see where this game is going after the 1st quarter, Dungey is doing his Tebow thing and Pratt keeps tackling him or pushing out of bounds after five yards. Big tackle production, none of it means much. We’ll see if that prediction is right. It looks like it will. Read option, Pratt tackled QB on inside run for minimal gain. A big negative down at the goal line, still does his thing where he waits to see the play before reacting, the RB is already in the end zone and Pratt still has his thumb up his butt. Blitz off the edge, easily picked up by the RB. Dropped him in deep zone on 3rd and 15, clear offsides gave the QB a free play, just heaved it up, Pratt able to come down with the INT. Nothing overly impressive, essentially was an arm punt, but he made the grab. Didn’t count in the record books though. Grabbed and held the slot WR the entire way down the field, horrible PI. Still struggling on blitzes, he just runs straight into blockers, there is no pass rush nuance, either he has an open lane or he gets shut down. Walled off by the OG on screen play, able to fall off the block and make the tackle on the RB 12 yards down the field. LG able to wall him off at second level on inside run, fell off the block and able to tackle RB five yards down the field. It’s a pattern. No instincts or awareness equals easy target at the second level for OGs, then he has to fall off the block because he doesn’t have a counter move, and then makes the tackle down the field after a decent gain. None of this helps anyone. The tackle numbers are nice, but they are as empty as it gets. Inside draw, helped stuff RB for no gain. Blitzed two LBs inside, Pratt was second, had a clear path to the QB for a strip sack. LT walled him off on inside run up the middle for 10 yards down to the goal line. Solid wrap up tackle on RB on inside run at goal line, came in from backside and had clear lane. They keep putting Pratt out on the slot WR in zone, he only has the underneath coverage, and he’s good in zone, but the slot just keeps dusting him on 10 yard out routes and catches the ball in front of the safety. It’s free first downs. Blitz off the edge, ran completely through the RB’s pickup attempt and sacked the QB. The QB is faster than Pratt, able to just stab step inside on keeper and out run Pratt to the sideline and up the field for a decent gain. Dump off pass to RB, Pratt made tackle for moderate gain. I've seen all this before. Oren Burks? Is that you?


                    TLDR:
                    Let me wrap this up and put a bow on Pratt. A lot depends on his athletic testing, on the field he looks to be on the slow side for a LB. I’m not sure where you play him. His instincts inside are awful, he’s slow to react, and he can’t get off the OGs. He definitely does not have sideline to sideline range. Unless he tests well, he might not have the athleticism to play outside. Outside might be his best shot though because he is decent in zone coverage, has good instincts for that. My issue is that compared to the other LBs in this draft, he’s just not that good. He tackles people well, and he can run forward and make plays if nobody blocks him most of the time. The lack of LB instincts though kills him for me. Almost guaranteed SoCal or Scribe draft this guy.


                    Note/Explanation: He's an Oren Burks. I hate all Oren Burks. The NFL loves Oren Burks. Probably a good pick value-wise. I do like the guy in coverage. Sooooo angry I didn't get to yell at SoCal or Scribe about this pick. Denver takes him, so I'm just going to hope for the best.

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                    • And now it's MUG's turn with his #23 overall prospect still available.

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                      • Originally posted by BroncosfanGuy View Post
                        Mullen must have been socalorado target. He was on here a few minutes ago telling rod to hurry up and now he gone
                        Mullen was one of the BPA on several boards. PFF graded Mullen as the #1 CB in the ACC with only 0.65 yards allowed per coverage snap in 2018. On top of that, I don't remember him allowing a touchdown in coverage and he was money against Alabama, winning Defensive MVP in the championship game.

                        We are aware of the Jaguars needs, but it's nice to work with a GM that is also willing to go over BPA over taking anyone from a certain position just to fill a need, especially in the first 3 rounds.

                        Jalen Ramsey is a headcase, A.J. Bouye got injured last season and the Jaguars lacked CB depth, so Mullen would at the very least compete for nickel snaps as the #3 corner.

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                        • Originally posted by -Rod- View Post
                          And now it's MUG's turn with his #23 overall prospect still available.
                          Hope it doesnt take him 4 hours again

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                          • Whoa did not see him as his 23rd overlal prospect. I had him in round 3 though.

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                            • Yeah, I figure Joseph will be more debatable, he's not really a national name yet, but on tape, only three LBs really jumped off as jaw dropping, and if he is what I think he is, the NFL scouts will be all over him. Pro Day will be big though, he's got to show out.

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                              • Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan View Post
                                Yeah, I figure Joseph will be more debatable, he's not really a national name yet, but on tape, only three LBs really jumped off as jaw dropping, and if he is what I think he is, the NFL scouts will be all over him. Pro Day will be big though, he's got to show out.
                                Risky putting him at 25 not knowing how he will test though. I thought another LB looked fast on tape and ran a 4.98 at the combine.

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