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  • DENVERDUI55
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    Only an idiot would say this Offense was better after Rams game. This team got its balls ripped off in Boston and never recovered.

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  • Doogansquest
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    I'll ask the question again: Where did I say I knew what his physical problems were? Because I don't say it in that comment from me you're quoting. All I say is that him having a physical issue is believable. And what act are you referring to? The me being right and you being wrong act?

    And the correct word here is "your", not "you're". I wouldn't normally call this out but it's now at least the second time you've done it in this thread which makes it apparent that you don't know the proper usage.
    You're right on here, but the "your" "you're" thing can just be a product of auto-correct nowadays.

    And most people don't bother learning English anymore. :-)

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  • TonyR
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    Originally posted by fontaine View Post
    Your very first post on this thread:

    - about some random dude claiming Manning had a degenerative thigh issue all by just watching him on TV.

    You're act would be cute, even mildly funny if you did it on purpose no matter how remote the possibility, but as most posters here know, that would be giving you far too much credit.
    I'll ask the question again: Where did I say I knew what his physical problems were? Because I don't say it in that comment from me you're quoting. All I say is that him having a physical issue is believable. And what act are you referring to? The me being right and you being wrong act?

    And the correct word here is "your", not "you're". I wouldn't normally call this out but it's now at least the second time you've done it in this thread which makes it apparent that you don't know the proper usage.

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  • fontaine
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    What's funny is that you're incoherently flailing about attacking me about something which I never even did or said. Where did I say I knew what his physical problems were? All I said was that if Med's "theory" about Manning is correct there's reason for concern. You took that comment and went down the rabbit hole.
    Your very first post on this thread:

    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    Wow. Unfortunately, very believable.
    - about some random dude claiming Manning had a degenerative thigh issue all by just watching him on TV.

    You're act would be cute, even mildly funny if you did it on purpose no matter how remote the possibility, but as most posters here know, that would be giving you far too much credit.

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  • Doogansquest
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    There's nothing to be concerned about as a fan, because there's nothing we can do. Worrying over something you have no control over, and as insignificant as entertainment, will cause you health problems that can be seen on the field.

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  • TonyR
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    Originally posted by fontaine View Post
    I'm glad you've finally stopped the wrist slitting of "more passes means more problems for Manning" and got enough sense to admit you really don't know what his physical problems are or what may exactly lead to.

    It took you a while but you got there.

    But in the interest of further educating you...
    What's funny is that you're incoherently flailing about attacking me about something which I never even did or said. Where did I say I knew what his physical problems were? All I said was that if Med's "theory" about Manning is correct there's reason for concern. You took that comment and went down the rabbit hole.

    And lol at you "further educating me". You don't even know what you're arguing about!

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  • fontaine
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    I didn't "ignore" anything. I was referring to this comment from Med's post, among others:

    Med also said this is gross oversimplification. But anyone without reading comprehension deficiencies understands the point. It appears Manning might have some physical issues (something you should be "seeing on the field") and these issues are something that should concern you as a Broncos fan because they lead to inconsistent play. Not really all that difficult, and not something worth being so "hyper sensitive" about.
    I'm glad you've finally stopped the wrist slitting of "more passes means more problems for Manning" and got enough sense to admit you really don't know what his physical problems are or what may exactly lead to.

    It took you a while but you got there.

    But in the interest of further educating you here are the known facts about Manning's struggles relating to his injuries:

    1. No one outside of his direct trainers/physiotherapists and coaches really know the extent of his injuries and how much/how little/how often it's affecting his throws and what that means in the short or medium future.

    Yes, that includes you too.
    Last edited by fontaine; 01-07-2015, 04:17 PM.

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  • ScottXray
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    Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post
    I think the run game gimmick of 6 OL and a blocking TE doesn't mean the run game is fixed either. That just kills the passing game too which is what teams fear. I expect to beat Indy and lose at New England when the superior coaching is ran into there.
    Pagano knows Peyton real well. Coaching may be an issue this week as well.
    The offense must get up on Indy and not let Luck keep the game close. And they need to sustain drives to give the Defense time to rest. That means not getting stupid on play selection.....something Gase excels at. I hope we actually see some two back sets and pitches and toss sweeps , along with throws to running backs and TEs in the middle. Maybe a screen pass too. Somethings we haven't seen much at all.

    If our Defense isn't up to snuff this could be the last game for us this season.
    Last edited by ScottXray; 01-07-2015, 03:46 PM.

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  • DENVERDUI55
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    Originally posted by Mediator12 View Post
    3. Just switching to a run oriented heavy Scheme is not going to help unless the run game actually shows up in the playoffs. It has been tremendously less effective the last 4 games after tearing up MIA and KC. Way too many people are still believing the running game is what it was then. It has not been for over a month.
    I think the run game gimmick of 6 OL and a blocking TE doesn't mean the run game is fixed either. That just kills the passing game too which is what teams fear. I expect to beat Indy and lose at New England when the superior coaching is ran into there.

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  • pricejj
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    Manning's inner-thigh cobra aids must be an epidemic, because Andy Dalton's passes were so erratic in the 4th quarter that he couldn't hit the ocean if he was standing in it.

    Either that or...rain.
    Last edited by pricejj; 01-07-2015, 01:07 PM.

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  • pricejj
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    Go back and read Med's post again, particularly the part about the Cincinnati game. Broncos fell behind, had to pass to get back in the game. More passes means more problems for Manning. Sometimes this is going to happen, particularly against good teams. And hey, guess what?!? You play good teams in the playoffs. Manning is this team's bread and butter, and if he can't be relied upon I think the implications are pretty clear. Of course, perhaps not for you since you're one of those denial people I mentioned. If nothing else, I like your optimism!
    Manning threw a 50 yard bomb to DT, then it started pouring rain.

    Dalton couldn't even complete a pass. I guess he was injured too.

    The punt team put us down 2, and Manning made a really stupid decision to throw while backpeddling. Ballgame. End of story.

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Originally posted by ColoradoDarin View Post
    I'm having trouble squaring the circle of Peyton's degenerative inner thighs(!)
    <a href="https://imgflip.com/i/g4e8o"><img src="https://i.imgflip.com/g4e8o.jpg" title="made at imgflip.com"/></a>

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  • TonyR
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    Originally posted by fontaine View Post
    You pretty much ignored all the other factors/variables and points Med was making and decided "More passes means more problems for Manning."

    Like I said in my previous post, I go by what I can see on the field instead of getting hyper sensitive and speculating that "it's frightening" and "he can't be relied upon" to now "More passes means more problems for Manning."
    I didn't "ignore" anything. I was referring to this comment from Med's post, among others:
    It seems he gets more inconsistent with his accuracy passing the ball with more use.
    Med also said this is gross oversimplification. But anyone without reading comprehension deficiencies understands the point. It appears Manning might have some physical issues (something you should be "seeing on the field") and these issues are something that should concern you as a Broncos fan because they lead to inconsistent play. Not really all that difficult, and not something worth being so "hyper sensitive" about.

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  • ColoradoDarin
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    I'm having trouble squaring the circle of Peyton's degenerative inner thighs(!) with his already announced coming back for 2015. He could have said nothing "I'm focused on the SB and everyone gets dinged up in the season, so I'll wait until the off season to reevaluate"

    I get that he's not 100% and the early Bye seems to have been an issue. Which would mean that this Bye is a gift from God.

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  • baja
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    Originally posted by ScottXray View Post
    Agree that the team is NOT as effective as early in the season. The Defense has been holding things together for awhile now. Offense has been largely ineffective, especially in the red zone. ( somewhat play selection there)

    As far as Peyton. He obviously is not the same. Whether it is an injury, poor technique, bad decisions or Bad O line play he is not playing up to his standards.

    If it's injury or the thigh thing , it looks like a degenerative thing. And if that's the case it is probably best, for everyone, that he doesn't play next year.

    We have this playoff to go through, and maybe we get another super bowl...maybe not. If we don't because Manning throws inopportune picks
    due to his physical ability being compromised, it just may be time he retires.
    If the rest of the team is the reason we lose then que sera.

    And if he does throw picks and chooses NOT to retire , the teams physicians need to really check him out fully before renewing that 25 million dollar deal.

    That will be up to Elway and the staff.

    Lets hope that none of this is an issue in the playoff THIS year.
    Not to worry, Fox has the team practising outside in 15 degree weather. He knows this will flash freeze Mannings nerves and he will play lights out the rest of the playoffs. Seriously why put Manning through this unnecessary hardship when you have a brand new indoor facility for occasions just like this?

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