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  • redrage
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    Originally posted by socalorado View Post
    Sean Payton, Mike McCarthy or John Fox in a SB.
    Who you takin?
    That's the one area I not so confident about.
    SB's are a "all or nothing" game, and I just not hyped about
    Fox against these coaches. I would hope
    Peyton would make up for it.
    Don't know why you would think that. Peyton has not played well in any of the Super Bowls he's played in. His arm strength noticeably declined the last 4-6 games last year and likely will again. The Broncos do have the inside track to get back because the AFC is pretty mediocre, but I'll take the NFC team.

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  • enjolras
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    The argument for New England has everything to do with schedule. I'd handicap them as by far the most likely to win the #1 in the AFC. They have a cupcake schedule. Beating them in Foxboro in January is a really tall order.

    That said, they have no offensive line in front of Brady anymore. There are a lot of ifs surrounding that team. If they snag that #1 seed, however... well that'd be bad news.

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  • BroncoMan4ever
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    Not seeing what suddenly makes the Patriots great. Yes, they are good and have a free pass to the playoffs because they play in a **** division. But Revis doesn't suddenly make them the best team in the league. He is a better player than Talib, but not by a margin so large that it makes the dynamic on that team any different than last season.

    Denver, without the additions of Talib, Ward and Ware would be better than the Pats just by getting injured players back healthy. Revis as good as he is, does not have as big of an impact as Talib, Ward and Ware will have.

    Every single time I see some article where the Pats are picked over Denver, reference is made to them getting injured players back and none of that argument is made for Denver. Denver had more players out because of injury, including starters and along with those starters returning added bigger and better pieces to the roster in free agency. The gap between teams was obvious in January, that gap has only widened since then.

    Also, I am still not sure why the hell Cincinnati is getting so much praise. They are the best team in the AFC North by default right now. And in a QB driven league, Dalton is just average. The playoffs are when you need either an elite shutdown defense and a good QB. Cincinnati falls short.

    Not seeing Indy as an elite team either. They are good and on the upswing, but they are at least 1 year away from being true contenders. I don't think Luck is ready to carry the team in the playoffs and make up for deficiencies that are present in the running game and on the defensive side of the ball. I know someone will bring up Russel Wilson as an example of a young QB getting to and winning the Super Bowl. While I believe Luck is a far superior QB, Wilson was not the reason that team got to or won the Super Bowl. It was won by defense. It was a Joe Flacco style Super Bowl win. Let the defense and running game get the job done and don't make mistakes to lose the game.

    The team that I think in the AFC that is being overlooked is San Diego. I think they are going to be Denver's biggest obstacle this season. Borderline elite QB, solid defense, good running game. San Diego is going to be a very good team this year.

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  • BroncoMan4ever
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    Originally posted by B-Large View Post
    Decker will outperform Sanders....lol

    Funny column
    That's a bold statement.

    I liked Decker a lot in Denver, but Peyton is who made him a star. He is a good receiver but, if he has over 60 receptions or more than 1000 receiving yards with Geno Smith throwing him the ball I am going to be amazed.

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  • Guess Who
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    Other than Revis, and being more healthy, what is it that people are so enamored of? The Broncos clearly improved more when you factor in acquisitions, players returning from injury, and net out players who left. I don't get it. Particularly if Gronk isn't fully recovered.
    Patriots were ravaged by injuries last year much like the Broncos. They lost Mayo and Wilfork.... among others.

    Their WRs have one more year's experience and should be much better.....

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Originally posted by gunns View Post
    Oh yeah, they got Revis.
    Great player - hasn't necessarily translated to wins though. Albeit with two crappy teams. The way they talk about him though he is the biggest difference maker in the league.

    6 playoff games in 7 years.

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  • gunns
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    Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
    AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

    Judy Battista: Broncos over Patriots. Both teams are better than they were last season, especially on defense, but Peyton Manning's array of offensive weapons is the difference. The only team with a chance to disrupt this meeting is the Colts.

    Brian Billick: Patriots over Bengals. New England -- which is carrying a 4-5 playoff record since 2009 -- reclaims its postseason dominance and represents the AFC in the Super Bowl for the sixth time under Bill Belichick.

    Gil Brandt: Patriots over Broncos. With Darrelle Revis upgrading their dynamic duo (Tom Brady and Bill Belichick) to a big three, the Patriots have what it takes to flip the results of last season's AFC title game -- especially since the rematch takes place in Foxborough.

    Bucky Brooks: Broncos over Patriots. The Broncos' balanced attack overcomes Tom Brady and Co. in the second half to claim the AFC crown for the second straight season.

    Charley Casserly: Broncos over Patriots. Denver's defense is better this year, and so is New England's. But can key Patriots contributors like Rob Gronkowski and Vince Wilfork stay healthy?

    Dave Dameshek: Patriots over Colts. Brady goes into The House That Peyton Built (where the Pats lost a Super Bowl three seasons ago) and beats Andrew Luck's top-seeded Colts, punching his ticket to Arizona (where the Pats lost a Super Bowl seven seasons ago) with a chance at redemption.

    Elliot Harrison: Patriots over Broncos. Denver survives San Diego but, after beating the Patriots last year, is unable to repeat that feat. Turnovers are the key in this AFC title rematch.

    Gregg Rosenthal: Patriots over Steelers. Kordell Stewart will not be involved.

    Adam Schein: Broncos over Patriots. Sign me up for Manning vs. Brady one more time. Denver is the best team in the AFC.

    Michael Silver: Colts over Bengals. Andrew Luck is a baaaaaad man -- and he is part of a very good team that will peak at the right time.

    Chris Wesseling: Patriots over Broncos. I'd rather see Brady in an NFL-record sixth Super Bowl than Peyton Manning in a fourth Super Bowl. Darrelle Revis makes the difference.


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hawks-get-love

    A lot of the media has a latent homoerotic man-crush on Tommy Tantrum that can cloud their judgment.

    I'm thinking their oline will be an issue. Solder is overrated. Hope Von is fully back as he routinely destroys them
    I just don't see what these guys see in the Patriots....and they see it every year. Oh yeah, they got Revis.

    And what is the deal with the Packers? Did they get a new defense? Oh yeah they played well without Rodgers so they must be the next SB winners.

    Guess we'll see.

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    Other than Revis, and being more healthy, what is it that people are so enamored of? The Broncos clearly improved more when you factor in acquisitions, players returning from injury, and net out players who left. I don't get it. Particularly if Gronk isn't fully recovered.
    AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

    Judy Battista: Broncos over Patriots. Both teams are better than they were last season, especially on defense, but Peyton Manning's array of offensive weapons is the difference. The only team with a chance to disrupt this meeting is the Colts.

    Brian Billick: Patriots over Bengals. New England -- which is carrying a 4-5 playoff record since 2009 -- reclaims its postseason dominance and represents the AFC in the Super Bowl for the sixth time under Bill Belichick.

    Gil Brandt: Patriots over Broncos. With Darrelle Revis upgrading their dynamic duo (Tom Brady and Bill Belichick) to a big three, the Patriots have what it takes to flip the results of last season's AFC title game -- especially since the rematch takes place in Foxborough.

    Bucky Brooks: Broncos over Patriots. The Broncos' balanced attack overcomes Tom Brady and Co. in the second half to claim the AFC crown for the second straight season.

    Charley Casserly: Broncos over Patriots. Denver's defense is better this year, and so is New England's. But can key Patriots contributors like Rob Gronkowski and Vince Wilfork stay healthy?

    Dave Dameshek: Patriots over Colts. Brady goes into The House That Peyton Built (where the Pats lost a Super Bowl three seasons ago) and beats Andrew Luck's top-seeded Colts, punching his ticket to Arizona (where the Pats lost a Super Bowl seven seasons ago) with a chance at redemption.

    Elliot Harrison: Patriots over Broncos. Denver survives San Diego but, after beating the Patriots last year, is unable to repeat that feat. Turnovers are the key in this AFC title rematch.

    Gregg Rosenthal: Patriots over Steelers. Kordell Stewart will not be involved.

    Adam Schein: Broncos over Patriots. Sign me up for Manning vs. Brady one more time. Denver is the best team in the AFC.

    Michael Silver: Colts over Bengals. Andrew Luck is a baaaaaad man -- and he is part of a very good team that will peak at the right time.

    Chris Wesseling: Patriots over Broncos. I'd rather see Brady in an NFL-record sixth Super Bowl than Peyton Manning in a fourth Super Bowl. Darrelle Revis makes the difference.


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hawks-get-love

    A lot of the media has a latent homoerotic man-crush on Tommy Tantrum that can cloud their judgment.

    I'm thinking their oline will be an issue. Solder is overrated. Hope Von is fully back as he routinely destroys them

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  • TonyR
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    Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
    Lots of Patriot love from the NFL.com crew
    Other than Revis, and being more healthy, what is it that people are so enamored of? The Broncos clearly improved more when you factor in acquisitions, players returning from injury, and net out players who left. I don't get it. Particularly if Gronk isn't fully recovered.

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  • theAPAOps5
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    That's fine, more fun when they have to eat crow later.

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    SUPER BOWL XLIX

    Judy Battista: Broncos over Packers: Peyton Manning finally gets his second ring playing with the most complete team of his career.

    Brian Billick: Patriots over Seahawks. Bill Belichick validates his coaching legacy with his fourth Super Bowl championship and his first since the 2007 "Spygate" scandal that left some fans questioning his brilliance.

    Gil Brandt: Saints over Patriots. With major support from Jimmy Graham and Brandin Cooks, Drew Brees outduels Tom Brady in a quarterback showdown for the ages, taking home the second Super Bowl MVP award of his career.

    Bucky Brooks: Saints over Broncos. It's uncommon for the title game to go into an extra period, but Drew Brees finds a way to get it done against the "Orange Crush" in overtime to give New Orleans a second Lombardi Trophy.

    Charley Casserly: Broncos over Seahawks. Peyton wins his second Lombardi Trophy and gains revenge on Seattle.

    Dave Dameshek: Packers over Patriots. Aaron Rodgers officially enters the conversation of "best ever" by taking down Tom Brady, who slips to .500 in the big game.

    Elliot Harrison: Patriots over Seahawks. Seattle is favored to repeat, but New England remains the last organization to pull off the rare feat in the Super Bowl era. Bill Belichick goes out on top. (Yup, I predict The Hoodie rides off into the sunset after adding another Lombardi Trophy to the pile.)

    Gregg Rosenthal: Packers over Patriots. Disaster in the Desert II for Tom Brady.

    Adam Schein: Packers over Broncos. Aaron Rodgers bests Peyton Manning in a classic Super Bowl to bring the Lombardi Trophy back home to Titletown. (For my expanded thoughts on this Super Bowl prediction, click here.)

    Michael Silver: Seahawks over Colts. It's exceedingly tough to repeat in the 21st century NFL. It helps, however, when you're young, wild and free.

    Chris Wesseling: Saints over Patriots. Drew Brees and Tom Brady rain points all over the desert, setting a Super Bowl record for combined score. Brees just has more weapons.


    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...line-favorites

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...hawks-get-love

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ncos-will-roll

    Lots of Patriot love from the NFL.com crew

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  • KCStud
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    Pete Prisco picked the Broncos again? No way!

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Adam Schein picks us to go to the Super Bowl and lose. He is wrong more often than DMAC-

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...denver-broncos

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  • cutthemdown
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    Jets will run the ball too much for Decker to do much damage numbers wise. Decker may play well for them though I like him as a player.

    But jets might give Decker most of the targets so maybe it evens out.

    Still I think I give Sanders the edge because he will get more chances to score big plays with Manning throwing him the ball.

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  • Bronc0guy
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    Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
    Decker will, not really that bold.
    Not a chance man, and I tend to agree with you usually.

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