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  • HOF Snubs Gradishar Again

    Idiots on the committee picked the wrong number 53 for the sole Senior candidate for the 2015 class:

    http://www.profootballhof.com/enshri...class-of-2015/

  • #2
    Qualifications

    Here is information I posted recently on another site in support of Gradishar's enshrinement:

    For those lucky enough to see Randy Gradishar in his prime, you saw the epitome of an NFL player. He was better than his peers, including Jack Lambert, and often was recognized for this during his career. Awards include: DPOY-1978, 7 time Pro-Bowler and a slew of All Pro Teams:
    1976 2nd Team All-Conf. UPI
    1977 1st Team All-Conf. Pro Football Weekly
    1977 1st Team All-Conf. Sporting News
    1977 1st Team All-Conf. UPI
    1977 1st Team All-NFL Associated Press
    1977 2nd Team All-NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc.
    1977 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Weekly
    1978 1st Team All-Conf. Pro Football Weekly
    1978 1st Team All-Conf. Sporting News
    1978 1st Team All-Conf. UPI
    1978 1st Team All-NFL Associated Press
    1978 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Writers
    1978 1st Team All-NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc.
    1978 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Weekly
    1979 1st Team All-Conf. Pro Football Weekly
    1979 1st Team All-Conf. Sporting News
    1979 2nd Team All-Conf. UPI
    1979 2nd Team All-NFL Associated Press
    1979 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Writers
    1979 2nd Team All-NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc.
    1979 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Weekly
    1980 2nd Team All-NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc.
    1980 1st Team All-NFL Sporting News
    1981 1st Team All-Conf. Pro Football Weekly
    1981 1st Team All-Conf. UPI
    1981 2nd Team All-NFL Associated Press
    1981 2nd Team All-NFL Newspaper Ent. Assoc.
    1981 1st Team All-NFL Pro Football Weekly
    1981 1st Team All-NFL Sporting News
    1982 1st Team All-Conf. UPI
    1983 2nd Team All-Conf. UPI
    1983 2nd Team All-NFL Associated Press

    Unfortunately, outside those who saw him play, he fell into the cracks of NFL history, and has largely been ignored his rightful place among the truly elite players of all time.

    Don’t even get me started on the injustice of Gradishar being left out of the NFL HOF . . . imho, this guy is the best to ever play the game. As a Chicagoan, growing up with Butkus and Sayers, Gradishar and TD were at least their equals.

    In addition to scores of accolades, including: Hardest hit Walter Payton took in the NFL - "Randy Gradishar, 1978" – Walter Payton (responding to Dan Hampton's question about the hardest hit he EVER took), ". . . I thought I was dead . . ." – Tony Dorsett (after being knocked out cold by Gradishar), "Best Linebacker I ever coached" – Woody Hayes, "Every bit as good as HOFs Butkus and Bill George" – Stan Jones (Broncos coach who played with Butkus and George, etc., etc., Randy Gradishar literally carried the Broncos into the post season for the first time and then time and time again for the rest of his career. In fact, the Broncos rise to excellence is directly traceable to the development of Randy Gradishar.

    Unofficially the all time NFL leader in tackles with 2049 in just 10 years (many 14 game seasons and one 9 game strike shortened season), until Ray Lewis topped him with 2061 (in 17 seasons). Some outside of Denver argue that his stats were inflated. Those that saw Gradishar in action will say that they never saw the man take a play off, or go less than full force. The reason for Randy having so many tackles is that honestly, the Bronco offense was not that great during his career (his last season was Elway’s first) and the defense was on the field quite a bit more than their record would indicate (even in going 12-2 in 1977 and outscoring opponents 274-148, the defense spent 931 plays on the field, compared to the offense’s 886 plays at a less than explosive 4.4 yards/play). In ’77 Morton started all 14 games at quarterback, threw for 1929 yard and rushed for 125 yards. Our leading rusher was Otis Armstrong with 489 yards and leading receiver was Haven Moses with 539 yards. Combine Morton’s 1977 14 game passing and rushing yards with team rushing leader, Otis Armstrong’s rushing yards and they pale in comparison to Tebow’s passing and rushing yards (yes he rushed for more yards than our quarterback and leading rusher combined in our first Super Bowl run as well as passing for more yards than the legendary Morton) for his total 14 lifetime starts. In the Super Bowl, our offense coughed up the ball 8 times (7 in the first half, alone) and our defense led by Gradishar still kept us in the game, well into the second half. In fact, despite the 8 offensive turnovers, the Broncos gave up the least points (27) of their five losing Super Bowls (27, 39, 42, 55 & 43). This came against a Cowboys team that placed 7 individuals (3 offensive players, 2 defensive players, their coach and their GM/President) into the HOF.

    Sometimes dismissed, as a gentleman and not a ferocious hitter, this couldn't be farther from the truth. Just ask Saints' Henry Childs, after Gradishar knocked his helmet off, "It was the first in my career like that, in the open field". Gradishar's hitting ability was a sentiment echoed in Rick Korch's book, The Truly Great. In it, Tony Dorsett recalled the hit Gradishar gave him in a 1980 game, "I ran a pass pattern and was wide open but Danny White did not see me. I go back to the huddle and tell Danny that I am wide open. I ran the same route again but this time I was almost decapitated. My eyes were only partially open when I hit the ground. Trainers and doctors came running onto the field. They thought I was dead. Hey, I thought I was dead, too." Hall of Fame defensive lineman Dan Hampton remembers asking Walter Payton, "Walter, who gave you the hardest hit you ever took in the NFL?". According to Hampton, Payton replied, "Randy Gradishar, 1978". In 1981 SPORT magazine named Gradishar one of the Top 5 hardest hitters in the NFL, quoting the modest Gradishar, "The chance for a real good shot comes very seldom, but when it's there I take full advantage of it".

    Just watch the 1977 conference championship against the Raiders to see how tough and determined Randy was along with the impact he had on his fellow defenders. Questionable for the game, due to injury (but overshadowed by the Morton tough guy story), Randy started and on the Raiders’ first play from scrimmage, Randy made a tackle in the backfield for a loss to set the tone for the game. If you watch the defensive huddles (yes back in the day the huddles were televised), Randy commands as much, if not more respect and attention in the huddle than Peyton Manning does in the current offensive huddle.
    Randy Gradishar should have been a first ballot NFL hall of famer. People say that Brian Urlacher is a first ballot, or sure fire hall of famer. Well Urlacher’s highest one season tackle total was 151 in 2002 (16 game season), while Gradishar’s lowest was, you guessed it . . . 151 in the NINE game strike shortened 1982 season.
    Last edited by Gradishar53; 08-20-2014, 02:57 PM.

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    • #3
      Video Support

      I never got to see him play live, but got to follow his career on television. In an effort to bring Gradishar to those who did not have the pleasure of seeing him play, I have posted a couple of videos to Youtube. The first is a short series of excerpts from the 1977 AFC Championship game against the Raiders.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SchB7N8Euw

      To put this video in context, 1977 was a magical season for Broncos fans, culminating with the most important win in Broncos history, to that point (and for another 20 years) against the hated Raiders in the AFC title game. Bronco lore recounts Craid Morton’s poor health, hospitalization and heroism. Pretty much lost to history was the fact that Gradishar was also questionable for the game, but came out strong (albeit limping), to put on one of the grittiest performances in NFL history.

      After the Broncos offense went 3 and out to start the game, the Raiders took over looking to end the Bronco’s Cinderella season. On their very first play from scrimmage, Gradishar delivered the tackle heard round the world (0:40-1:08), bursting into the backfield and instead of delivering the hard hit and risking a whiff, he performed a perfect textbook tackle wrapping up the runner and throwing him backward for a significant loss. This play (my all time favorite play) would set the tone for the drive/game and lead to a 3 and out for the Raiders. Notice Gradishar limping around after the play. (Also notice throughout the video how Gradishar is the focal point of the huddles and how the television cameras focus on him. He truly was larger than life).

      Unfortunately, the Broncos "special teams" roughed up Ray Guy on the punt, putting the Broncos D right back out onto the field. The Raiders proceeded to eat up clock and yards, bringing up a critical 3rd and short around the 10 yard line. At this critical point, Gradishar pre-enacted the Atwater/Okoye hit (3:26) stopping the runner cold and driving him back to bring up 4th down. On 4th down, Gradishar pre-enacts the Elway helicopter play (5:06) going up and over the pile and colliding with the runner while flipping a 360. Granted neither of these plays are as visually impressive as the more famous, later plays (both arguably the greatest plays in Bronco history), but when taken in the context of the most critical game in Broncos history to that point, and taking place in a SINGLE DRIVE, it serves as pretty impressive sliver of Gradishar’s body of work (2049 regular season tackles). The Broncos would keep the Raiders out of the end zone and hold them to 3 points on this roughing extended opening Raider drive. Eventually winning by 3 points, the game could have been very different had the Broncos D (and Gradishar in particular) not rallied to overcome the early offensive and special team woes.

      I have also reposted the wonderful tribute put together by the good folks at gradishar4hof.com This video was sent to the NFL HOF voters around 10 years ago, by the committee to elect Randy Gradishar as part of the effort to get Gradishar enshrined.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXRhOVZhvpo

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      • #4
        I got to him see him live. The HOF is a joke. Harry Carson....... They have whined that Denver's defense 'funneled' plays to him. 1st, isn't that what teams do? Like having a shut down corner to take away half the field etc. 2nd, he still has to make the play, which he did in droves. Ask Billy Sims in his hey day when he tried to go over the top for a first down. Or Steve Bartkowski trying a quarterback sneak. Urlacher..... They whined he 'only' played 10 yrs. His stats were padded. Yadda Yadda Yadda..... If he was a Steeler or Cowboy or Bear or Giant hell even a stinking Jet they'd put him in twice.

        Curtis Martin ahead of Gradishar? Ray Guy? It is obscene. And based on their criteria Atwater will get the same treatment.

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        • #5
          He played in Denver. If he played in Dallas or Pittsburg, he would have been put in two decades ago

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          • #6
            I don't understand this one. Dude is probably the 2nd most deserving Bronco of enshrinement.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
              He played in Denver. If he played in Dallas or Pittsburg, he would have been put in two decades ago
              Or in Washington, San Francisco, New York (Giants), Green Bay, Chicago or Miami. Even Oakland --

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              • #8
                Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
                He played in Denver. If he played in Dallas or Pittsburg, he would have been put in two decades ago
                If he played on the NY Giants he would have been voted in his first year of eligibility.

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                • #9
                  Maybe we can get a Floyd like push... He needs a guy like titan

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
                    He played in Denver. If he played in Dallas or Pittsburg, he would have been put in two decades ago
                    If he played in Dallas or Pittsburgh the HOF committee would have given him the gold jacket on his retirement day and told him they would make it official in 5 years.

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                    • #11
                      The perception knock against him is that the team inflated his tackle numbers in an effort to get him more notierity. Something that the local voters have not been able to get others past to see his career as a whole.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
                        That's really some bull****. It's clearly deserved, just get him in.

                        I think it's a reflection of how poor the Denver media is that they're completely inept at supporting Bronco players at meetings or just simply don't care enough.
                        And a reflection on the organization itself. They don't do enough to promote the pre-1983 Bronco players.

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                        • #13
                          I long ago stopped caring about the HOF. I've got my opinions on players and know a great player when I see them and don't need the HOF to validate my opinion of a player. Just like BroncoMan4ever said, if he played in Pittsburgh he'd be in the HOF already. That's so true. It just sucks for the player who of course would love to have the honor to get the gold jacket and the honor that comes with being voted in to the hall. Makes me think of basketball. If Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, and Pop would have done what they've done in NY instead of SA the NY media would have been writing books about their greatness and probably even made a movie. The fact that Curtis Martin is a HOF'r and TD isn't is literally laughable. Martin was a good steady back but TD was elite and would dominate games. Gale Sayers gets a pass with his short career but TD gets held to a different standard. I will never care about the HOF and the poser writers that vote on the players. Bunch of posers, all of them. Probably don't even know if a football is pumped or stuffed but yet they vote on who goes into the HOF.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
                            That's really some bull****. It's clearly deserved, just get him in.

                            I think it's a reflection of how poor the Denver media is that they're completely inept at supporting Bronco players at meetings or just simply don't care enough.
                            This.

                            I never got to see him play live but did get to see him play. He just enforced my love of defense. He was the core of the Orange Crush and when he retired he held the NFL's record for most tackles all time. It's an unbelievable travesty that the Denver media and organization doesn't organize and present the facts about this man's career because it's amazing. His not being in the HOF has made me lose all respect for it. That and Terry Bradshaw being in it.

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                            • #15
                              It's just ridiculous! How can one player received as many awards and be on so many 1st team defenses and have such astounding tackling numbers while playing mostly 14 game schedules not get in? Only reason is playing in the west that isn't on the coast. Such a joke!

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