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  • #31
    Originally posted by Taco John View Post
    Cops don't have any authority to force people to sit down who are not under arrest. There's nothing lawful about him "ordering" someone to sit down and then shoving them down when they don't comply.
    If he feels like him standing there is threatening, I am sure asking him to sit down is acceptable. Just like when you are asked to step out of your car and sit on the curb while you give permission for a police officer to search your car.

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    • #32
      Id have to watch again but it looks like he was shoving him towards stairs.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
        If he feels like him standing there is threatening, I am sure asking him to sit down is acceptable. Just like when you are asked to step out of your car and sit on the curb while you give permission for a police officer to search your car.
        That's only because the cop could have his back turned to you as he's searching the car. More times then not, if a cop is suspicious and wants to search, they'll cuff you and sit you in their car, then they will search. It's for their protection.

        Sorry but cops don't need to push off and shove in this manner. This wasn't a cop feeling threatened. It was a macho maneuver. If the cop felt threatened, he would have turned him around and cuffed him and proceeded with questioning. Bully shoving is not standard police procedure.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Mogulseeker View Post
          I'm an Economics/International Business TA now at CU... And if the things that he was saying were put into a college paper, I would have failed it, and made him write it again.
          You're taking my comment too literally. I meant that he thinks he learned some basic legal concepts in his 'Intro to Criminal Justice' class at his community college and is now going around getting lippy to the police and showing them he is well informed of his rights.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Mogulseeker View Post
            I'm an Economics/International Business TA now at CU... And if the things that he was saying were put into a college paper, I would have failed it, and made him write it again.
            We should, like, sticky a thread where you give us your resume. Then, you could just link it.

            I kid. I'm a kidder.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ZONA View Post
              That's only because the cop could have his back turned to you as he's searching the car. More times then not, if a cop is suspicious and wants to search, they'll cuff you and sit you in their car, then they will search. It's for their protection.

              Sorry but cops don't need to push off and shove in this manner. This wasn't a cop feeling threatened. It was a macho maneuver. If the cop felt threatened, he would have turned him around and cuffed him and proceeded with questioning. Bully shoving is not standard police procedure.
              Exactly. The "sit down" comment was a power play, intended to "show him who's boss." The key line in that video was that fatass cop's unprofessional, grossly unbecoming and smug "you didn't listen, did you?" comment.

              Gotta disagree with Cali on this one. Didn't look threatening. Police officers shouldn't shove the people they're trying to protect. In fact, they shouldn't touch them unless they're under arrest. Now, you could hear the other cop say "he's trespassing," which is cause for arrest - so I could understand force if he's resisting. Again, didn't look like he was resisting, and it obviously could have been handled much much better. At the beginning, it seems the cop is explaining to him whats about to happen - probably a bargaining point like "we're going to escort you out and be done with it - and saying "is that okay with you?" and he just didn't want to leave.

              Coors Field is private property, and it clearly states on the ticket agreement that the staff reserves the right to eject unruly fans from the stadium. If someone crashes your house party and starts acting like a drunk asshole, you'd want him to leave, right? So I think escorting him off is valid, I just don't see any harm in letting him explain his case. I certainly find the shove and the language from the officer, very, very inappropriate.

              So it's hard for me to feel sympathy for the kid, who probably did do something to deserve getting kicked out. But abuses of power are very near the top of things I hate, and I hope the cop gets reprimanded. Seems both these guys should spend a couple nights in jail.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie View Post

                The kid looks like an avid Denver Broncos Hater, as he belongs to "The Denver Broncos Suck" Facebook Page.

                https://www.facebook.com/abuckpenny
                Oh, well, then....F#@k him! Shove him again officer.....

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Rabb View Post
                  I am torn. On one hand, anyone that goes to see the Rockies should be allowed to be drunk and disorderly for sitting through it.

                  On the other hand, anyone giving money to the owners of the Rockies should be beaten.

                  Tough call.
                  Arresting someone for being intoxicated at Coors Field?! You have to be drunk to enjoy yourself there...that's what I call entrapment!

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                  • #39
                    The guy is a dim bulb and the cop is a fat bully. No reason for physical abuse, tho.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by SouthStndJunkie View Post
                      lol....I was right, I looked up that kid's profile and he does attend a local community college. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but it made me laugh because of my remark about his 'Into to Criminal Justice' class paying off.

                      The kid looks like an avid Denver Broncos Hater, as he belongs to "The Denver Broncos Suck" Facebook Page.

                      https://www.facebook.com/abuckpenny
                      Damn looks like that kid went to Dakota Ridge high school. America's finest. I would know, lol.

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                      • #41
                        He was clearly drunk, and that's not a crime, nor was he in violation of the law.
                        The officer did not have a legitimate excuse to order the kid to sit down, he wasn't aggressive or verbally abusive, and shoving his ass down like that was uncalled for, total out of place, that's not how the cop should've handled the situation...

                        Oh, I wouldn't call the kid an idiot, he was just drink, and drunk people some times do stupid things, but this kid drunk and all, showed an amazing composure, I would've lost it the minute that cop would've shoved me down like that, I don't think I would've taken it...

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by strafen View Post
                          He was clearly drunk, and that's not a crime, nor was he in violation of the law.
                          The officer did not have a legitimate excuse to order the kid to sit down, he wasn't aggressive or verbally abusive, and shoving his ass down like that was uncalled for, total out of place, that's not how the cop should've handled the situation...

                          Oh, I wouldn't call the kid an idiot, he was just drink, and drunk people some times do stupid things, but this kid drunk and all, showed an amazing composure, I would've lost it the minute that cop would've shoved me down like that, I don't think I would've taken it...
                          There's no context in that video. Cops at Coors Field rarely intervene at all unless there was a security complaint (to the text line they have set up), and even then the cops are only called over if security needs someone with a bit more authority. Like, to kick out an unruly fan.

                          This guy was hammered drunk. My guess is, he grabbed some chick's ass, or knocked someone's beer out of their hand, or was screaming obscenities, or did SOMEthing to get the attention of security. When security checked on the issue, they needed help, and called the officer. He'd obviously been talking to the guy for a minute or two before the vid picks up.

                          By the way, it says on your ticket that the stadium has the right to eject you for drunken and unruly behavior. So yes, being drunk is a crime if you're acting like a dip****. Absolutely none of this guy's actions makes me think he was being a respectful drunk to those around him.

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                          • #43
                            Abuse of power for sure.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by strafen View Post
                              He was clearly drunk, and that's not a crime, nor was he in violation of the law.
                              The officer did not have a legitimate excuse to order the kid to sit down, he wasn't aggressive or verbally abusive, and shoving his ass down like that was uncalled for, total out of place, that's not how the cop should've handled the situation...

                              Oh, I wouldn't call the kid an idiot, he was just drink, and drunk people some times do stupid things, but this kid drunk and all, showed an amazing composure, I would've lost it the minute that cop would've shoved me down like that, I don't think I would've taken it...
                              Well the kid has to leave private property when asked to leave. It doesn't matter if you are drunk or sober. He should of been arrested for his cut offs and tank top. This isn't going anywhere he is a drunk idiot wanting to spout off some bs.
                              Last edited by DENVERDUI55; 07-25-2014, 12:13 PM.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post
                                Well the kid has to leave private property when asked to leave. It doesn't matter if you are drunk or sober. He should of been arrested for his cut offs and tank top. This isn't going anywhere he is a drunk idiot wanting to spout off some bs.
                                This is what I mean when I say idiocy all around. The cops/ballpark staff are perfectly within their rights to ask him to leave for whatever reason they deem necessary. If he felt his rights were violated, he could go to the media and try to make the Rockies name even worse - you can add excessive douchery to the already insulting their fans and being cheap and consistently giving us a ****ty product. Coors Field has the right to eject someone for whatever reason, and fans have the right to be outraged and create a PR disaster if their reasoning is wrong. Not saying it was, but the kid certainly seemed to think so.

                                UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

                                Bottom line is the kid is a civilian, and that gives him the right to say stupid things. The cop was wrong for shoving him.

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