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  • CEH
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    Originally posted by Br0nc0Buster View Post
    Flowers was good two years ago

    But he switched positions last year and then got hurt
    When healthy and actually playing to his strengths he is quite a bit better than Sean Smith or Marcus Cooper

    Kansas City's secondary outside of Berry is pretty bad
    38-10 lead in the 3rd qtr is still a gut crushing reality for Chief fan.

    I don't know what's worst the coaching or the secondary

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  • Br0nc0Buster
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    Flowers was good two years ago

    But he switched positions last year and then got hurt
    When healthy and actually playing to his strengths he is quite a bit better than Sean Smith or Marcus Cooper

    Kansas City's secondary outside of Berry is pretty bad

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  • KCStud
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    Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post
    Except PFF doesn't tell the whole story.
    It doesn't. Cooper was better on tape too. Flowers could very well be a nice #2 or 3 for SD this year, but he has to be healthy.

    The scheme and his injuries hurt him a lot last year. He wasn't the best CB on the roster. Hell Sean Smith was just as good.

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  • gyldenlove
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    Originally posted by KCStud View Post
    Another false statement.

    [email protected]_Sam: Marcus Cooper's grade against Peyton Manning in coverage last year was -9.6. vs Everybody else: +6.5 #Chiefs.

    Everybody else: luck 2x, Rivers 2x, Eli, Romo.

    Also had an INT on Manning. The kid was a WR converted to CB as a rookie, so of course a HOF would get the best of him his first year in.
    He flat out beat Flowers and outplayed him.

    But, no need to let facts get in the way!
    So he only went -3.1 for the year? impressive, he is just a bad player and not retarded midget suffering a crippling fear of not sucking - could definitely have fooled me.

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  • bronco militia
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    it's July so the best team in the AFC is clearly the Chiefs

    someone wake me up in September

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  • crush17
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    Originally posted by TerrElway View Post
    It's New Orleans this year gang. Seattle fails to repeat, San Fran chokes again and finds some injury/freak play to blame it on.

    Meanwhile, Drew Brees and the Saints blow up and get the job done.

    They meet the Broncos in the SB and Peyton gets his revenge as the new look Broncos D pays dividends and slows down Brees enough that the Denver O gets the lead and the Broncs hang on to win 36-30 in one of the most exciting SB's ever.
    I think the team to watch in the NFC is Green Bay.

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  • TerrElway
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    Originally posted by Kevin8Nine View Post
    Interesting. My boss won't shut up about the Cardinals. After the 11-5 debacle last year I could definitely see them playing with some determination this year.
    It's New Orleans this year gang. Seattle fails to repeat, San Fran chokes again and finds some injury/freak play to blame it on.

    Meanwhile, Drew Brees and the Saints blow up and get the job done.

    They meet the Broncos in the SB and Peyton gets his revenge as the new look Broncos D pays dividends and slows down Brees enough that the Denver O gets the lead and the Broncs hang on to win 36-30 in one of the most exciting SB's ever.

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  • DENVERDUI55
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    Originally posted by KCStud View Post
    Another false statement.

    [email protected]_Sam: Marcus Cooper's grade against Peyton Manning in coverage last year was -9.6. vs Everybody else: +6.5 #Chiefs.

    Everybody else: luck 2x, Rivers 2x, Eli, Romo.

    Also had an INT on Manning. The kid was a WR converted to CB as a rookie, so of course a HOF would get the best of him his first year in.
    He flat out beat Flowers and outplayed him.

    But, no need to let facts get in the way!
    Except PFF doesn't tell the whole story.

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  • Kevin8Nine
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    Originally posted by Archer81 View Post
    Not sure why but I am getting a vibe from Arizona. I know...the Cardinals...but they are not horrible.

    Interesting. My boss won't shut up about the Cardinals. After the 11-5 debacle last year I could definitely see them playing with some determination this year.

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  • Kevin8Nine
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    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
    Peyton Manning the Vegas favorite to win MVP.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...vious-favorite
    I wish I lived in vegas. Is there a way to bet online or by phone or something?

    I'd like to put $100 down on Rodgers and Kap.

    Then put $100 down on manning to cover my losses if both fell through.

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  • socalorado
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    Originally posted by KCStud View Post
    Another false statement.

    [email protected]_Sam: Marcus Cooper's grade against Peyton Manning in coverage last year was -9.6. vs Everybody else: +6.5 #Chiefs.

    Everybody else: luck 2x, Rivers 2x, Eli, Romo.

    Also had an INT on Manning. The kid was a WR converted to CB as a rookie, so of course a HOF would get the best of him his first year in.
    He flat out beat Flowers and outplayed him.

    But, no need to let facts get in the way!
    Who the hell is Marcus Cooper?!?!

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  • TonyR
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    Peyton Manning the Vegas favorite to win MVP.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...vious-favorite

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  • KCStud
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    Originally posted by broncosteven View Post
    They let their best CB go because they have cap issues.
    Another false statement.

    [email protected]_Sam: Marcus Cooper's grade against Peyton Manning in coverage last year was -9.6. vs Everybody else: +6.5 #Chiefs.

    Everybody else: luck 2x, Rivers 2x, Eli, Romo.

    Also had an INT on Manning. The kid was a WR converted to CB as a rookie, so of course a HOF would get the best of him his first year in.
    He flat out beat Flowers and outplayed him.

    But, no need to let facts get in the way!

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  • Rabb
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    Originally posted by CEH View Post
    Von miller is better this anyone on ne
    And a true difference maker
    *when healthy
    I'll take the new additions from Denver over Nate
    Additions

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  • KCStud
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    Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
    You will loose Hali next year unless he is willing to restructure and why would he?
    That's why we drafted Dee Ford. Tamba is starting to get old too.

    He implied we're losing both him and Houston, which isn't happening.

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