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  • #61
    Originally posted by BroncoMan4ever View Post
    Yes. We won a lot of the regular season games without him. That is the Manning affect. Just having Peyton insures an 11 win season regardless of the rest of the team. But it is no coincidence that the D was dog**** last season when Von was either gone or not at his best. Especially when you consider that the D was basically equal in talent to the 2012 version but missing the best and most important player for the D.
    The problem I have with this is it wasn't only Von that wasn't playing. Champ missed a lot of time, Woodyard missed some time, and Wolfe wasn't close to 100 %. Vick, Harris, Moore, and Wolfe all ended up on the IR. This year the Broncos have much better defense surrounding Von, and Ware to still put pressure on the QB if Von were not there.

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    • #62
      I'm giving serious consideration to Trevathan. There probably isn't a Bronco I'd rather not lose over him at this point.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Dr. Broncenstein View Post
        I'm giving serious consideration to Trevathan. There probably isn't a Bronco I'd rather not lose over him at this point.
        There would definitely be a big dropoff from him to whoever takes his place (Barrow, Irving, Johnson, McCray)?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by sgbfan View Post
          The problem I have with this is it wasn't only Von that wasn't playing. Champ missed a lot of time, Woodyard missed some time, and Wolfe wasn't close to 100 %. Vick, Harris, Moore, and Wolfe all ended up on the IR. This year the Broncos have much better defense surrounding Von, and Ware to still put pressure on the QB if Von were not there.
          Right but Von allows JDR so much flexibility on defense.

          You cant double Von and Ware, Knighton usually occupies two blockers, throw in Sly, Jackson, or Wolfe and you really just pick your poison.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
            Right but Von allows JDR so much flexibility on defense.

            You cant double Von and Ware, Knighton usually occupies two blockers, throw in Sly, Jackson, or Wolfe and you really just pick your poison.
            Yep. Hoping our D will get close to 2012 levels this year.
            Last edited by ShiftyEyedWaterboy; 05-17-2014, 06:33 PM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
              Right but Von allows JDR so much flexibility on defense.

              You cant double Von and Ware, Knighton usually occupies two blockers, throw in Sly, Jackson, or Wolfe and you really just pick your poison.
              Right, but my point was that last year we suffered more than losing just von, so you can't blame last years defense on the loss of Von alone. This year, if everyone stays healthy except (knock on wood) Von, the defense will still be really, really good imo.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by sgbfan View Post
                Right, but my point was that last year we suffered more than losing just von, so you can't blame last years defense on the loss of Von alone. This year, if everyone stays healthy except (knock on wood) Von, the defense will still be really, really good imo.
                Agreed, but a healthy Von in addition to everyone else, makes it SCARY good.

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                • #68
                  I'll concede that the 2012 version of Von would be our 2nd most important but I don't see us having that same guy in 14

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by ATL-Eric View Post
                    I'll concede that the 2012 version of Von would be our 2nd most important but I don't see us having that same guy in 14
                    Probably not at first. I'm hopeful he can approach that level as the year goes on though. Especially if he's dropped some weight from last year. Even the Von we saw in '13 would be huge. Some people act like he was trash last year because he wasn't getting a sack every other play which wasn't the case at all.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by KipCorrington25 View Post
                      I'm the only Ware vote?

                      Damn, Von is a headcase, if he's the key we're screwed.... sorry...
                      I voted for Ware. I think he could be the front 7 leader. If we are going to make teams fear this defense, the front 7 is key...

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                      • #71
                        I voted other: Julius Thomas

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