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  • #2
    I'm seeing the same problem with his drops that Tebow displayed. Running quarterbacks tend to drop back with legs that are sort of twinkle-toed and nimble and don't really get there and stab that back foot.

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    • #3
      Nah, his footwork is fine.

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      • #4
        Pretty nice work out. But really, shouldnt the top 5-7 QB prosepcts in the draft be able to drop back no pressure and hit 90%+ of those throws? I mean the man with the broom was menacing, but serisously.

        What does this really tell anyone, other than what we expect today from a good QB entering the draft?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by B-Large View Post
          Pretty nice work out. But really, shouldnt the top 5-7 QB prosepcts in the draft be able to drop back no pressure and hit 90%+ of those throws? I mean the man with the broom was menacing, but serisously.

          What does this really tell anyone, other than what we expect today from a good QB entering the draft?
          it says a couple of things--one, he has improved his mechanics since the end of his college season (which means he's working on getting better, all his snaps came from under center) and two, he can pretty much make all the throws.

          Now, is he a top 5 NFL draft pick QB? I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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          • #6
            I felt even during the college season he not only would be the hardest QB to evaluate, but just player in general for NFL teams. He has many qualities you would like in a QB, but his weaknesses or at least perceived ones, are very worrisome.

            He can obviously turn a nothing play into something huge, maybe better than any QB that has come around in years. He has leadership skills and seems to work hard at his craft. He does have some baggage however with off the field incidents, so that is a legit concern.

            His seems to have answered the arm strength question. He seems to have plenty of that to make all the throws needed.

            His size is a big question and really nothing can be done about that. He is what he is there.

            His ability to run is his biggest asset, but can also be his biggest liability if used too much since sure, you can get away with running 8-12 times against college teams, but can he really do that in the NFL? Probably not unless he becomes the greatest at getting out of bounds or sliding and doesn't take many hits.

            Many young QB's problems are reading defenses, which not sure where he is there. But then they tend to either force balls, hang onto the ball too long and get sacked a ton, causing some fumbles, or take off and run without going through progressions and possibly missing open receivers. So how Manziel will handle this, hard to say.

            All in all, he's just a hard guy to gauge. But I do think whoever drafts him will need an offense that is more open and not necessarily the same as he had in college, but at least at times, is pretty close. I don't think he would fit a 2 back, max protect type of traditional, conservative type offense. I don't think he would be very successful in such an offense.

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            • #7
              I don't know jack about football mechanics - but I'm looking forward to watching him play - it will definitely be entertaining. QB's like Manning and Brady don't wow me with just one play - they wow me over the course of a game/season as they continuously make the right reads and accurate throws. Manziel made many individual plays in college that I thought were spectacular - I bet he has a few of those in the NFL. I think that NFL systems often try to force a QB into something they are not - I hope the team that drafts him doesn't try to turn him in a pocket passing defense reading machine and lets him do his thing.

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              • #8
                I think he'll definitely make a splash in the NFL. How long it will last?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jay3 View Post
                  I'm seeing the same problem with his drops that Tebow displayed. Running quarterbacks tend to drop back with legs that are sort of twinkle-toed and nimble and don't really get there and stab that back foot.
                  yeah, and the ball never really comes out high

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                    • #11
                      I'd still take him over any of the other QB's. I think he's going to mash it.

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                      • #12
                        His rainbow deep ball is going to get picked off in the NFL.

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                        • #13
                          What was his 3 cone time?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rascal View Post
                            His rainbow deep ball is going to get picked off in the NFL.
                            Flacco throws rainbows. We saw how some of them ended.

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                            • #15
                              Haters gonna hate. Kid is a baller.

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