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  • Remember, we were a 4-12 team just three short years ago. We've come too far too fast probably.

    Look, I have no earthly idea how long it takes to take the 2nd worst team in the league to making them a legitimate superpower, but I'm quite sure three years ain't it. There is too much dearth of talent for that to happen.

    From 2nd worst to 2nd best in three years? Not bad.
    Last edited by bronco0608; 02-03-2014, 02:13 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by bronco0608 View Post
    Look, I have no earthly idea how long it takes to take the 2nd worst team in the league to making them a legitimate superpower, but I'm quite three years ain't it. There is too much dearth of talent for that to happen.

    From 2nd worst to 2nd best in three years? Not bad.
    4-12 but I know what you are saying

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LetsGoBroncos View Post
      4-12 but I know what you are saying
      Duly noted. Thanks.

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      • #4
        Remember, we had no "Plan B". Elway loaded the team with the starting talent, to win. Unfortunately, the depth wasn't so great. That's a big component to why we lost...

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        • #5
          Panthers were 2-14 3 years ago. Look at them now.

          Super Bowls are won in March and (now) May.

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          • #6
            You know, Seattle had only one major player out on their whole team last night - Brandon Browner. That team has stayed amazingly healthy.

            We were without some of our top players:

            Ryan Clady
            Von Miller
            Chris Harris
            Rahim Moore
            Kevin Vickerson
            Derek Wolfe
            Stewart Bradley - Whatevs, but he was supposed to be a starter for us
            Dan Koppen
            JD Walton

            ok, the last three is stretching it, but given the fact we weren't the deepest team in the league, and we had all those important loses from our core group, I'm proud of the guys.

            Us full tilt vs Seattle full tilt? Seattle probably still wins at the point, but the game would have been a hell of a lot closer.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Crushaholic View Post
              Remember, we had no "Plan B". Elway loaded the team with the starting talent, to win. Unfortunately, the depth wasn't so great. That's a big component to why we lost...
              That depth took us to the Superbowl.

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              • #8
                No the coaching staff is medicore and they aren't physical enough. Also too many injuries to what good players they did have on defense. Miller, Vick, Wolfe, Harris, those guys would have made a big difference. Clady as well IMO.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by spdirty View Post
                  Panthers were 2-14 3 years ago. Look at them now.

                  Super Bowls are won in March and (now) May.
                  And, once again, where did they finish? Divisional playoff round?

                  Teams turn it around all the time, but when is that they finally make the leap and become a legitimate Super Bowl caliber team that doesn't get blown out?

                  It takes time.

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                  • #10
                    Funny to me that two weeks ago we were talking about how amazing it is we made it this far with all the injuries. Now we lay a giant egg and everyone sucks.

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                    • #11
                      The problem is how our good players recover. True ACL injuries aren't what they once were but its not uncommon for a very good player to be rendered above average after an ACL - Von Miller, Chris Harris

                      Lis Franc injuries remain a big question mark, especially for someone who relies on blocking every play - Ryan Clady, Champ Bailey?

                      Unclear if Quentin Carter or Derek Wolfe can even play football anymore.

                      Lot of work to do this offseason, not a lot of cap to do it with

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LetsGoBroncos View Post
                        Funny to me that two weeks ago we were talking about how amazing it is we made it this far with all the injuries. Now we lay a giant egg and everyone sucks.
                        Well, not that everyone sucks per say, but we did sort of get exposed last night. We were dominated in every phase of the game.

                        Now, let's say our top four injured players were available for that game:

                        Clady probably shuts down the pass rush from the left side of the field.
                        Miller gives us a pass rush that was nonexistent last night.
                        Harris plays ballhawk defense and brings physicality to the secondary.
                        Moore brings sure tackling to the Safety position.

                        Do we win? Probably not. But we probably don't get railroaded either.

                        That stuff matters.

                        Plus, that whole damn Seattle team is on performance enhancers no one has ever heard of. Those guys can't have those physiques, that type of power tackling, and speed naturally. They really looked like a Pro Team playing a college team last night physically and that should never happen in pro football.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bronco0608 View Post
                          You know, Seattle had only one major player out on their whole team last night - Brandon Browner. That team has stayed amazingly healthy.
                          Also Sidney Rice, but this really doesn't change your point.

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                          • #14
                            Seattle has been a sub 500 team before last year. Pete Carroll was in the hot seat.

                            Last year was their 1st year over .500 in a while. Took them 2 winning seasons to win a super bowl.

                            3 years is plenty.

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                            • #15
                              Just me, but if I were Denver I'd create me some Montana/Young hate this year.

                              The offensive line is, honestly, unimpressive outside of one G and your LT, but you do have an insane number of offensive weapons.

                              The best time to draft a QB is when you don't need one. Spend the rest on defense...

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