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  • What the team should do to move forward

    Lots of knee jerk reactions, myself included, with strong opinions on how the Broncos should move forward. It seems that the majority of Mane posters don't want Fox to be fired, and probably even a bigger majority want Peyton to come back.

    But going forward, what should this team do? Keep most the roster intact and hope you don't have so many injuries? Purge players, and if so, which ones? Purge any of the coaches? Hope you have a good draft? (although having the 2nd worst draft position makes it extremely unlikely that the draft helps the Broncos moreso than it helps other teams)

  • #2
    this team needs to get more physical and that starts with the defense. On offense, they have to run the ball effectively. I'd have no problem firing the special teams coach as well because the special teams sucked too so make that coach the sacrificial "your outta here" firing.

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    • #3
      Obviously, not physical enough. Improve that and let's see.

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      • #4
        Size and speed at LB, S and in the secondary. Draft a young pass-rusher, and figure out a way to enable our O-line to be able to punch teams in the mouth when we need to.

        SEA got pressure up front with 3-4 guys all night, too. That's devastating for an offense.
        There's our lesson for next season right there...

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        • #5
          Yes drafting physical defensive players will totally fix our turnover issues and the fact that we have a regular season QB trying to carry a team in the playoffs.

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          • #6
            Seattle's gameplan was pretty much what Giants did the Patriots in 07-08, in regards to rushing the QB.

            We need to be more physical on defense. Running the ball, we can improve but I don't think we need to emphasize taking the ball out of Peyton's hands. Anytime you get down like we did, you're going to pass. We never really got into situations to get the run game truly going. Peyton said they wanted to get Moreno involved heavy too, so I'm sure that was part of the plan.

            On top of all that, Seahawks weren't able to run the ball very well and still win and play well on offense.

            Get some bigger and better LBs... specifically MLB. Get some bigger physical guys up front.

            What's funny is, the most physical guy on our dline is probably Vickerson/Knighton...and Vickerson was drafted by the Seahawks. I'd say Vickerson is a more physical player though...nastier.

            They obviously have a formula over there for physicality.

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            • #7
              God you people are killing me. It took the Seahawks three or four years to build that roster of physical defenders. We have a year or two with Manning and we are going to be drafting late every year. The reality is that we are what we are unless a rebuild starts. The only way this team wins a Super Bowl is if they stop turning the ball over. I have little faith in that department.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Agamemnon View Post
                God you people are killing me. It took the Seahawks three or four years to build that roster of physical defenders. We have a year or two with Manning and we are going to be drafting late every year. The reality is that we are what we are unless a rebuild starts. The only way this team wins a Super Bowl is if they stop turning the ball over. I have little faith in that department.
                wrong, it took Seattle getting lucky finding Russell Wilson--a QB--to get them to the SB. As good as that defense is, without Wilson making those key third down conversions, the team is not the same.

                sure, the Broncos helped Seattle by crapping their pants. But the Broncos can absolutely fix that by having a more effective running game (Manning made some very bad throws due to pressure) and having a defense that can get pressure with 4 guys up front.

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                • #9
                  Run the ball more, and effectively. Stay healthy.

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                  • #10
                    We need to get our depth back, on the offensive line. It was embarrassing to see the push Seattle got, on our line...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Crushaholic View Post
                      We need to get our depth back, on the offensive line. It was embarrassing to see the push Seattle got, on our line...
                      This. I think we need a big physical guard, Iupati type.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post
                        wrong, it took Seattle getting lucky finding Russell Wilson--a QB--to get them to the SB. As good as that defense is, without Wilson making those key third down conversions, the team is not the same.

                        sure, the Broncos helped Seattle by crapping their pants. But the Broncos can absolutely fix that by having a more effective running game (Manning made some very bad throws due to pressure) and having a defense that can get pressure with 4 guys up front.
                        I really think you are delusional if you think our offense is ever going to be balanced with Peyton Manning at QB. Also do you really see rookies fixing this defense overnight?

                        Oh and turnovers. Let's get down to what cost us this game. Seattle had a +29 turnover differential going into this game as I recall and Denver was +0 or some such. That played out tonight right before our eyes. That's hard to fix unless you change the culture of a team, and I just don't see that happening in the year or two Manning has left.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Agamemnon View Post
                          I really think you are delusional if you think our offense is ever going to be balanced with Peyton Manning at QB. Also do you really see rookies fixing this defense overnight?

                          Oh and turnovers. Let's get down to what cost us this game. Seattle had a +29 turnover differential going into this game as I recall and Denver was +0 or some such. That played out tonight right before our eyes. That's hard to fix unless you change the culture of a team, and I just don't see that happening in the year or two Manning has left.
                          You can always improve the defense, what does that have to do with Manning? Nada. Not a friggen thing. Yes, the Broncos can make the defense better, more physical and do it in a short amount of time. This has nothing to do with Manning.

                          As for the Broncos offense, they have to run the ball better too, and that means being more physical up front. Sure, Manning is gonna be Manning but even when Manning retires, having an effective running game will help the next QB.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post
                            You can always improve the defense, what does that have to do with Manning? Nada. Not a friggen thing. Yes, the Broncos can make the defense better, more physical and do it in a short amount of time. This has nothing to do with Manning.

                            As for the Broncos offense, they have to run the ball better too, and that means being more physical up front. Sure, Manning is gonna be Manning but even when Manning retires, having an effective running game will help the next QB.
                            I'm 100% with you on the improved running game idea. But hell, we don't even use a fullback. That's the issue with Manning right now. He dictates what offense we are going to run and it's not an offense geared towards a balanced attack with a great running game.

                            Also the defense will get better simply due to getting healthy, and yes we might hit some home runs with immediate impact defensive rookes, but in the end if we don't stop turning the ball over it won't matter.

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                            • #15
                              Maybe we should trade our second round pick for a first rounder next year that gets us an all-pro safety, and draft an all pro CB in the fifth round. While we're at it, why don't we pick up 3-4 starters as UDFA and an awesome QB in the third round. That would be a good start...

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