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  • Vinatieri's FG Proposal

    Adam Vinatieri wants fg's 50+ yards to be worth 4 points. As ridiculous as this sounds, just think of the ridiculous events that this proposal, if implemented could lead to....

    A team is trailing by 4 points late with 1 or 2 minutes left in the game. A team is in make-able 53 yard range, but wants to keep driving in efforts to score a go ahead td, as a fg would only tie, and leave time on the clock. So a team gets to the opponents 10 yard line but they face a 4th down. A fg does no good as they need 4, so I could possibly see a team line up a qb in shotgun, and a holder and kicker lined up about 25 yards behind the line of scrimmage. The qb takes the shotgun snap, turns around and throws a 20 yard strike to the holder standing at about the 33-35 yard line, he quickly sets the ball, and the kicker boots the ball through the uprights for a 51 yard fg to tie.

    Maybe the NFL could counter this non-sense with make 4 point FG's not from what yardline they are kicked, but from the actual line of scrimmage. The NFL could make the 4 point fg line of scrimmage be the 33 yard line, as from this line, the customary 7 yard hold and 10 yard endzone would make for a 50 yard fg. In this scenerio, I can envision a qb taking a 25 yard sack to reestablish the line of scrimmage to the 33, so a 50 yard fg would be kicked for a 4 point attempt and potential tie.

    Such ridiculous non-sense this proposal would lead to!

  • #2
    Mmmmm the fantasy football-ization of the NFL continues.

    Just weird to hear an actual player suggest it.

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    • #3
      Perfect! San Diego is down by 4 and their sit on the ball at the 41 yard line with 10 seconds to go. We then go smack Rivers on a purpose late hit (while he was kneeling down) to take a 15 yard penalty and make it a 3 point field goal. SD declines the penalty? Ok, we at least got to **** up Rivers.

      Lame. You didn't get close enough to score or make an easier field goal, who's fault is that but the kicker's offense.

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      • #4
        Dumb idea, which is why Goodell is probably considering it right now. Seems like he likes change just for the sake of change.

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        • #5
          It's impressive for a kicker to kick long FGs as an individual, but it's more impressive for a team to kick short FGs. It's a team sport, and if anything, the team should be awarded more points for moving the ball closer to the endzone.

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          • #6
            A better idea would be moving the extra point back 15 yards

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sly_Eli View Post
              A better idea would be moving the extra point back 15 yards
              Don't move the PAT attempt back; make it the same rules as the 2-pt conversion. So teams always have to "go for 2", but it's only worth 1.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
                Perfect! San Diego is down by 4 and their sit on the ball at the 41 yard line with 10 seconds to go. We then go smack Rivers on a purpose late hit (while he was kneeling down) to take a 15 yard penalty and make it a 3 point field goal. SD declines the penalty? Ok, we at least got to **** up Rivers.

                Lame. You didn't get close enough to score or make an easier field goal, who's fault is that but the kicker's offense.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by itswutz4dinna View Post
                  Don't move the PAT attempt back; make it the same rules as the 2-pt conversion. So teams always have to "go for 2", but it's only worth 1.
                  I had to play those rules in 3a 8-man my freshman year in HS. It was lame.

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                  • #10
                    In Nebraska, if I am not mistaken, 8 man rules states that kicks after touchdowns are worth 2 and a scoring play via the pass or run are worth 1. This is because in such tiny schools, finding a student who can kick extra point length fg's is more rare and thus harder than converting a conventional scoring play from the 2, also with such fewer players on the field mean more wide open plays, scoring a conventional points is more easier than kicking a 19 yard extra point.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arkie View Post
                      It's impressive for a kicker to kick long FGs as an individual, but it's more impressive for a team to kick short FGs. It's a team sport, and if anything, the team should be awarded more points for moving the ball closer to the endzone.
                      That's a great point.

                      Vinateri just wants to get back the scoring that FG kickers stand to lose with Goodells suggestion to abolish extra points. Vinateribwants to re-assert relevancy for kickers.

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                      • #12
                        The only logical suggestion to the issue of automatic kicks is to narrow the goal posts. Keep them the same in college and high school, but narrow them from 18.5 to about 15. I guess they could move the hashes out some as well to make the angle tougher

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