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  • Seattle's opponents O rankings vs. Denver's opponents D rankings

    I am on a phone so forgive my mistakes.

    Eatlier this week Ag made a thread stating that a majority of the QBs Seattle has faced have been mediocre at best. I saw the list and didn't think it would be so bare but it was. It gave me the idea to compare the rankings of Seattle's opponents on offense. This will tell us who their vaunted D went up against. I also deided to do the same for our offense and see who we faced on defense.

    Broncos opponents. The defensive ranking will be next to the opponent and if they are ranked 12 or higher I will list how many points we scored.

    Baltimore - 12. 49

    Nyg - 17

    Oakland - 29

    Philly - 18

    Dallas - 26

    Jacksonville - 28

    Indy - 9. 33

    Washington - 31

    San diego - 11. 28

    KC - 5. 28

    New England - 10. 31

    KC - 5. 35

    Tennessee - 16

    San diego - 11. 20

    Houston - 24

    Oakland - 29

    San diego - 11. 24

    New England - 10. 26

    The average ranking of our defensive opponents in 16.7. This is not as good as I thought it would be but it is average. There were 9 opponents who were in the top 12 in defense and we averaged around 30 points against those teams. Which is pretty damn good.

    I will do the Seattle opponents on O next but I am on my phone so I will do it in the next post.
    Last edited by McDman; 01-23-2014, 11:40 AM.

  • #2
    Are you ranking on yards or scoring?

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    • #3
      You should back out what we scored against them, then rerank....

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      • #4
        I wil fix this when I get home.

        This is scoring O and D only.

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        • #5
          FootballOutsiders does this too if you want to see their numbers. The relevant columns are the Weighted Offense/Rank and Weighted Defense/Rank pairs.

          Offense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff
          Defense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ColoradoDarin View Post
            You should back out what we scored against them, then rerank....
            Good idea. I will redo all of thos tonight. This just looks bad on the phone and I had the Seattle one typed pit and it erased it all basically Seattle's opponents were only ranked an average on 18.7. I will back their data out as well.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
              +1 The highest scoring offense of all time will quite literally skew any mean statistical data more than any offense ever has been to able.
              I agree, but do the same for Seattle.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jdblack View Post
                FootballOutsiders does this too if you want to see their numbers. The relevant columns are the Weighted Offense/Rank and Weighted Defense/Rank pairs.

                Offense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff
                Defense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
                To summarize for everyone...

                Denver on O is #1 both unweighted and weighted.
                Seattle on O is #7 unweighted and #9 weighted.

                Seattle on D is #1 both unweighted and weighted.
                Denver on D is #15 unweighted and #10 weighted.

                The weighting is an adjustment where earlier games in the season become gradually less important. It better reflects how the team was playing at the end of the season.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jdblack View Post
                  FootballOutsiders does this too if you want to see their numbers. The relevant columns are the Weighted Offense/Rank and Weighted Defense/Rank pairs.

                  Offense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff
                  Defense: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef
                  I don't believe in that

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                    To summarize for everyone...

                    Denver on O is #1 both unweighted and weighted.
                    Seattle on O is #7 unweighted and #9 weighted.

                    Seattle on D is #1 both unweighted and weighted.
                    Denver on D is #15 unweighted and #10 weighted.

                    The weighting is an adjustment where earlier games in the season become gradually less important. It better reflects how the team was playing at the end of the season.
                    Why are you answering yourself?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                      To summarize for everyone...

                      Denver on O is #1 both unweighted and weighted.
                      Seattle on O is #7 unweighted and #9 weighted.

                      Seattle on D is #1 both unweighted and weighted.
                      Denver on D is #15 unweighted and #10 weighted.

                      The weighting is an adjustment where earlier games in the season become gradually less important. It better reflects how the team was playing at the end of the season.
                      Well that saved me a **** load of time! Thanks!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by McDman View Post
                        Well that saved me a **** load of time! Thanks!
                        Flawed stats though. Just like sabermetrics - a bunch of pseudoscience and bad assumptions that some math guy can sell to credulous fans.

                        I would of liked to have seen what you came up with.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Coldcity76 View Post
                          Flawed stats though. Just like sabermetrics - a bunch of pseudoscience and bad assumptions that some math guy can sell to credulous fans.

                          I would of liked to have seen what you came up with.
                          All stats are flawed, or at least their application is flawed. Doesn't mean they are meaningless. (Also, FO's statistics have historically predicted game outcomes better than any other statistics system/site, so your dismissal seems too harsh.)

                          But anyway, wasn't trying to dissuade you from doing your process, just giving another perspective to compare to.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Coldcity76 View Post
                            Flawed stats though. Just like sabermetrics - a bunch of pseudoscience and bad assumptions that some math guy can sell to credulous fans.

                            I would of liked to have seen what you came up with.
                            Well I just realized how long it would take to take all the numbers out and re-rank everyone.

                            I am on the last Dark Tower book and I will probably read all night.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jdblack View Post
                              All stats are flawed, or at least their application is flawed. Doesn't mean they are meaningless. (Also, FO's statistics have historically predicted game outcomes better than any other statistics system/site, so your dismissal seems too harsh.)

                              But anyway, wasn't trying to dissuade you from doing your process, just giving another perspective to compare to.
                              Since you're here, could you tell me if your using the advanced stats link still? I was wondering because it says that the best offense > best defense.

                              Thanks

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