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  • #31
    Originally posted by SleepingTiger View Post
    not sure if thread worthy or not, but Dmac was just on the Fan and said Tony Carter is in the nickle package in practice. Jammer is out. Bailey will cover the slot.

    This is great news.
    Half right. Jammer is out is GREAT NEWS! Tony Carter is in is DEPRESSING NEWS!

    I know we have no other options

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    • #32
      Listening to Dmac and Alfred. They played clips of JDR's press conference and Tony Carter got on with them. Holy cow, there is some angst up in that relationship. It doesn't sound like a good situation. JDR avoided saying any names and seemed to almost have disdain for the group of players who were going to be expected to jump back in and play post-Harris. I don't think he has much confidence in any of them. Carter was on the radio later in the show and it was a very uncomfortable conversation. He tried to play the team card but didn't do a very good job hiding the chip on his shoulder. DMac and those guys tried several angles on him to talk about his recent spot on the Broncos bench/innactive list and at one point, Carter admitted you can't worry about what coaches or other people think, just go out and do their job. That is a true statement but coaches were always the first thing out of his mouth when asked to respond to something negative.

      Carter played a bunch in week 1 and week 2 and then disappeared. He reappeared around the NE game and touched the ball on the punt return which NE recovered and used to win the game. He sounds like a guy that feels like he was made scapegoat for the punt return muff (Wes Welker later took some ownership of that) but the exec's/coaches hung him out to dry in front of the fans. Here's to hoping the guy can take his anger out on the field against the Patriots should he play.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bpc View Post
        Listening to Dmac and Alfred. They played clips of JDR's press conference and Tony Carter got on with them. Holy cow, there is some angst up in that relationship. It doesn't sound like a good situation. JDR avoided saying any names and seemed to almost have disdain for the group of players who were going to be expected to jump back in and play post-Harris. I don't think he has much confidence in any of them. Carter was on the radio later in the show and it was a very uncomfortable conversation. He tried to play the team card but didn't do a very good job hiding the chip on his shoulder. DMac and those guys tried several angles on him to talk about his recent spot on the Broncos bench/innactive list and at one point, Carter admitted you can't worry about what coaches or other people think, just go out and do their job. That is a true statement but coaches were always the first thing out of his mouth when asked to respond to something negative.

        Carter played a bunch in week 1 and week 2 and then disappeared. He reappeared around the NE game and touched the ball on the punt return which NE recovered and used to win the game. He sounds like a guy that feels like he was made scapegoat for the punt return muff (Wes Welker later took some ownership of that) but the exec's/coaches hung him out to dry in front of the fans. Here's to hoping the guy can take his anger out on the field against the Patriots should he play.
        On the bright side, at least Del Rio ain't blind to the situation out there. Hopefully he can quickly adjust if anyone is getting overly burnt.

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        • #34
          Here's hoping he knows he's gone if JDR stays and he plays his ass off for a good résumé.

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          • #35
            The secondary definitely isn't a secondary focus item for Del Rio. He does seem to see them for what they are right now: a bunch of ragamuffins. The question is whether this is a brilliant psychological maneuver on JDR's part or whether it only serves to erode what little self-confidence Carter, Jammer and Webster have left.

            Regardless of what role Cole will play this weekend, Del Rio is looking to every member of the secondary for contributions this weekend.

            "We need everybody that's going to be up, corners, safeties that are involved and that get a uniform - need him to help us win, help us play well," Del Rio said. "I wouldn't isolate on any one guy. I think we've got a number of guys that will be up and used in different combinations and the guys that play need to play well."
            http://www.denverbroncos.com/news-an...3-922883e16d83

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Coldcity76 View Post
              Webster is a much better pick here. As someone said Carter is a poor tackler and if he is remotely down field with a receiver it could get ugly.

              Webster is fare better than Carter or Jammer and can tackle and get physical.
              If Webster gets on the field Brady will abuse him mercilessly. The only real option here is Carter.

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              • #37
                I'm not sure why so many think Webster is a liability. I'm assuming they are speaking from the San Diego game, where he actually played solid coverage, and was beat by some very good throws.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BMORE View Post
                  I'm not sure why so many think Webster is a liability. I'm assuming they are speaking from the San Diego game, where he actually played solid coverage, and was beat by some very good throws.
                  Samesies. I think he shows a lot of upside, to be honest.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by bpc View Post
                    Listening to Dmac and Alfred. They played clips of JDR's press conference and Tony Carter got on with them. Holy cow, there is some angst up in that relationship.
                    The interview actually sounded great. Listen to all the players and coaches. They all sound the same.

                    Tony Carter is somber, serious, and realizes what's in front of him. His only problem is that he has been lackadaisical when given the opportunity. Carter sounds like he gets it now. Almost everbody in the Broncos Secondary is fighting for their football career.

                    All the Broncos are somber this week, but loose.
                    Last edited by pricejj; 01-16-2014, 07:42 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by BMORE View Post
                      I'm not sure why so many think Webster is a liability. I'm assuming they are speaking from the San Diego game, where he actually played solid coverage, and was beat by some very good throws.
                      I think it's more the NE game when Brady picked on him. That and isn't he wearing a cast still?

                      I like Webster, but I think he's raw. He looks like he's going to be a player as he seems to be in position most of the time, but he's slow to turn his head or react when the ball is in the air. I think that part will come. As it stands now, I like how Carter matches up against the smaller/shiftier NE WRs. And I like that he has the experience. Not a knock on KW, but the idea of Webster on an island in the AFCCG is a little disconcerting.

                      Hopefully whoever steps in proves to be a capable replacement.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by ATL-Eric View Post
                        Like alot of people have mentioned this makes alot of sense bc #1 he cant be worse then Jammer and #2 the Pats have smaller/quicker receivers, especially with Tompkins likely out.

                        The issue could arise if the massive 260lb Blount ever makes it past our Linebakers.
                        I doubt any of our DB's would have an easy time bringing down a 250-260 lb RB with a full head of steam

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by mile7high7 View Post
                          To be honest, I was disappointed we let out Chrish Harrish had a Torn ACL so quickly after the MRI. We had the option to sit on it...the injury report wasn't due until Wednesday. Or at the very least, at the end of the day on Tuesday. Why give out helpful information?
                          In this day and age of twitter and facebook and all the other social media it was bound to come out anyways, regardless.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BMORE View Post
                            I'm not sure why so many think Webster is a liability. I'm assuming they are speaking from the San Diego game, where he actually played solid coverage, and was beat by some very good throws.
                            He is beat like a drum every time he is on the field. Sure he can tackle but his coverage skills at this point are lacking.

                            Too me he still looks like he is out of position. He needs to be moved to safety.

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                            • #44
                              I would assume we'll find out quick if Carter is ready bc you know Brady we'll go right at him from the get-go. If he cant handle it then bring in a fresh Webster or Jammer. Id like to see Champ stay at slot. Maybe Duke can lay a couple thunder hits early to help the cause.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Guess Who View Post
                                He is beat like a drum every time he is on the field. Sure he can tackle but his coverage skills at this point are lacking.

                                Too me he still looks like he is out of position. He needs to be moved to safety.
                                Webster has actually covered well, but he almost never looks for the ball, and so,gives up too many catches. He does tackle well, but with the cast on can't be counted on for that. The Game is still just a bit too fast for him, but I think he is going to be a good coverage CB in the next year or two.

                                I think DRC and Carter at CB with Champ in for the slot is what we see the most of. The problem I see is that Champ is still playing limited snap counts, so keeping him in as the nickel is likely.

                                I think we win this going away, but we absolutely CANNOT withstand another injury in the secondary.

                                Stay Healthy, Broncos!

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