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  • #31
    Eagles didnt win the SB running the ball. Both teams passed the ball a crazy amount. Pretty sure that was the highest scoring SB. Interesting Chef says run to win when you beat the other team by scoring points. You score points in the pass game and run the ball to burn clock.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by CHEF LUIGI View Post
      week one 8 teams.
      amongst all these play-off QBs, ONLY brees will be able to throw the ball 40 + times and win !
      every other QB all 7 of them, if they throw the ball more than 40 times will LOSE!
      and I also guarantee a victory for any team that RUNS the ball 25+ times in regulation.
      What if both teams run the ball 25+ times?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by CHEF LUIGI View Post
        The Dan Fouts san diego CHARGERS was one of the most prolific passing offenses of the NFL
        "air Coryell "
        But the team "passed on running"
        and consistently failed to win big games, because they never could control the clock. ?
        Hmm let's look at this Dan Fouts claim. Dan Fouts won throwing 53 and 42 times. I think the reason that Fouts and the Chargers couldn't win playoff games is because Dan threw 14 INTs in 4 games. Defense gave up 17(amazing because he threw 5 INTs), 34, 34, and 27. Seems to me between his turnovers and a porous D they were a flawed team. He honestly wasnt a great QB. Very Fitzmagic like.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Brandon29 View Post

          What if both teams run the ball 25+ times?
          That's called a Vortex.
          here's an image of the last time it happened.
          Notice how the Duke throws the tiny sponge bomb through the vortex that opened in the sky closing it and saving the universe once again.

          Click image for larger version

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          • #35
            The problem with the premise "The team that runs the most will win" is that also very often true is "the team that is winning runs the most." Teams that get up a couple of scores often will run run run. Which absolutely skews your weird view on this, and makes it fairly pointless.

            Instead, a study of teams that run more than pass while behind or tie would be slightly more valid, I guess. Some teams set up the run with the pass. Some the pass with the run. Some get up a couple scores quickly with a powerful passing offense and then they run the game out. Looking at a game once over and claiming that the team that won did so because they ran more, doesn't prove that rushing is what won them the game.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by CHEF LUIGI View Post
              and they always resort to the absurd rather than allow themselves to consider the reality right before their eyes.
              chef said run every down, why pay a QB, 1 or 2 yards, thats ok,just keep running.
              Yes I said all of that and your hair smells like poop.
              The reality before our eyes is that you still don’t understand the difference between correlation and causation.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Brandon29 View Post

                What if both teams run the ball 25+ times?
                then the team that runs the MOST will win.
                everyone must reluctantly agree that the team that run the most win.
                But they want to discount the importance of running saying it only occurs late in the game?
                so ?
                is it not still running?
                Is it not intended as a strategy to keep the ball away from your opponent?
                Can you be successful if you only get 1 yard a carry ? (no )
                RUN TO WIN.
                chapter one is,
                RUN EARLY AND OFTEN !

                when you all watch the results against these NFL best teams in the play-offs, check in at half-time, look at the stats for who is ahead vs. who ran the ball.
                TURNOVERS? did they come from the passing game ?
                3 and outs?
                did they come from 3 consecutive runs or 3 consecutive passes?

                and what about the OTHER half of the equasion, "stop the run"
                who is doing that best in each match-up ?

                together, starting tomorrow, we will see the reality in the teams and GAMES that matter most !
                you will all see WHY LOMBARDIS name is on the trophy every football fan covets, RUN TO WIN !
                and if its 3o rush attempts in the 4th quarter, that team still ran to win !

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post
                  Eagles didnt win the SB running the ball. Both teams passed the ball a crazy amount. Pretty sure that was the highest scoring SB. Interesting Chef says run to win when you beat the other team by scoring points. You score points in the pass game and run the ball to burn clock.
                  "you score points in the passing game"
                  Tell that to the RAVENS !

                  who throw the ball less than 25 times a game and yet still run the ball 30 times or more!
                  You all have some crazy notion that the ravens must throw the ball 25 times in the first half and then run the ball 30 + times in the second half.
                  You all assert as much,but CLOSE INSPECTION of ALL THE PLAY_OFF games will tell a far more complex story!
                  ALL of you are trying to simplify what you see as real results, yet choose to believe a false correlation as to what CAUSED the end result.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by CHEF LUIGI View Post

                    "you score points in the passing game"
                    Tell that to the RAVENS !

                    who throw the ball less than 25 times a game and yet still run the ball 30 times or more!
                    You all have some crazy notion that the ravens must throw the ball 25 times in the first half and then run the ball 30 + times in the second half.
                    You all assert as much,but CLOSE INSPECTION of ALL THE PLAY_OFF games will tell a far more complex story!
                    ALL of you are trying to simplify what you see as real results, yet choose to believe a false correlation as to what CAUSED the end result.
                    Absolutely that is the case. You are too stupid and keep pushing this dumb narrative. 37 TDs vs 21 TDs. You tell me what is more points? Also alot of LJ runs were on called pass plays. Just shut up about this. You continually push this narrative and you just don't get it. Why do QBs make the big bucks and determine the success of the team? It's not just RUSHING Attempts as you like to say.
                    Last edited by DENVERDUI55; 01-03-2020, 06:42 AM.

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                    • #40
                      see you on saturday !

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                      • #41
                        BTW I really enjoy the hostility this premise evokes from all the pass happy enthusiasts who apparently have no real understanding of the game.

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                        • #42
                          11 for 11 last years play-offs and still they choose to dismiss the results.every single play-off game last year, the team with the most rush ATTEMPTS also won that match-up !
                          cannot dispute the result, must therefore choose to accept a palatable narrative as to why, even when the why still supports my conclusion and REALITY...
                          read it and weep HATERS, you run, you win !

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by CHEF LUIGI View Post
                            11 for 11 last years play-offs and still they choose to dismiss the results.every single play-off game last year, the team with the most rush ATTEMPTS also won that match-up !
                            cannot dispute the result, must therefore choose to accept a palatable narrative as to why, even when the why still supports my conclusion and REALITY...
                            read it and weep HATERS, you run, you win !
                            You're not understanding. Nobody is disputing that a successful run game is essential to winning, especially in the playoffs. What we're disputing is your repeated claim that simply running more will win the game. Who wins is decided by a lot more than rushing attempts, and you're not understanding that the victories you're seeing are a result of those other factors and the rushing attempts are coincidental with those other variables.

                            And I am not in the least a "pass happy enthusiast". I would prefer to win a game 4-0 than 40-30. But it's just not accurate to say that rushing attempts is the decisive stat. Maybe you're not recognizing that this implies that all a coach has to do to win is hand the ball off more than his opponent. We've already discussed that running 40 times for 40 yards isn't going to get it done, so that hypothetical alone demonstrates that there is more to it than simply accumulating rushing attempts.

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                            • #44
                              simply run more
                              run WELL,do it often,do it early !
                              \ not run all the time, never pass, and special teams have no effect on the outcome.
                              Nobody can dispute the results, but most tried to when I first brought this up !
                              NOW they must dispute the reason, and yet it still counts as RUNNING even in the second half !
                              tomorrow the plsy-offs start and with it the reality that the team that is BETTER at running the ball, is the one that is going to win !
                              and because they are the BETTER team at RUNNING they will naturally do it more than theiropponent.
                              UNless that teamis the CIOWBOWYS, they will abandon one of the leagues best run games because thy believe is the shyte most of you do !

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                              • #45
                                Let me ask Chef this...

                                Let’s say a kicker has a 50/50 chance to make a 50 yard FG. Does he make it because his team had more rushing attempts? Does he miss it if the other team had more rushing attempts? Games are decided by long shot FGs all the time.

                                You were lucky last year all 11 playoff games went to the team with the most rushing attempts. That probably hasn’t happened in a long time, and it probably won’t happen this year. I would be willing to bet on it. One or two teams with less rushing attempts will win a playoff game.

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