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  • Allen C
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post

    You’re wrong on Wirfs & Thomas being the only ones. Isn’t going to do Denver or Jeudy any good if Lock is on IR.
    I'm not saying ignore the O Line. I'm saying don't just draft a OT just to fill the position. This draft is crazy deep at O LINE. We can get a starting LT in the 2nd with guys like Alaric Jackson, Prince Tega, Lucas Naing, Josh Jones, Mekhi Becton, Trey Adams and if Adams didn't have injury concerns he would be the 3rd OT taken in the draft.

    Now on to interior lineman that can be had outside of the 1st round.
    Jake Hanson, Lloyd Cushenberry, Ben Bredeson, Hakeem Adeniji, Logan Stenberg, Netane Muti, Matt Hennessy, Zach Shackelford can all be had in the 3rd and 4th round.

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  • Allen C
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    Originally posted by socalorado View Post
    How's this?

    1ST RND (14) - HENRY RUGGS WR BAMA
    1ST RND (25) - TYLER BIADASZ C WISC
    2ND RND (46) - JOSH JONES OT HOU
    3RD RND (78) - AJ TERRELL CB CLEM
    3RD RND (86) - TRADED W 2021 1ST AND 3RD TO MIA FOR 25
    3RD RND (92) - JACOB PHILLIPS ILB LSU
    4TH RND (120) - RASHARD LAWRENCE 3-4 DE LSU
    4TH RND (138) - NAJEE HARRIS RB BAMA
    6TH RND (194) - DAVID REESE ILB FLA
    6TH RND (216) - HUNTER BRYANT TE WASH
    7TH RND (230) - TREVON MCSWAIN DT DUKE
    7TH RND (253) - COLTON JACKSON OT ARK
    I'm not mad at that. Baidazz is IMO the 3rd best O Lineman in the draft

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  • peacepipe
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    Originally posted by Allen C View Post

    He needs protection and weapons. Good thing this draft is deep at O LINE and WR. BPA is always the best way to go. Thomas and Whirfs are the only OT worth a top 15 pick

    I wouldn't be surprised if we took Jerry Jeudy if he's there.
    You’re wrong on Wirfs & Thomas being the only ones. Isn’t going to do Denver or Jeudy any good if Lock is on IR.

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  • socalorado
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    How's this?

    1ST RND (14) - HENRY RUGGS WR BAMA
    1ST RND (25) - TYLER BIADASZ C WISC
    2ND RND (46) - JOSH JONES OT HOU
    3RD RND (78) - AJ TERRELL CB CLEM
    3RD RND (86) - TRADED W 2021 1ST AND 3RD TO MIA FOR 25
    3RD RND (92) - JACOB PHILLIPS ILB LSU
    4TH RND (120) - RASHARD LAWRENCE 3-4 DE LSU
    4TH RND (138) - NAJEE HARRIS RB BAMA
    6TH RND (194) - DAVID REESE ILB FLA
    6TH RND (216) - HUNTER BRYANT TE WASH
    7TH RND (230) - TREVON MCSWAIN DT DUKE
    7TH RND (253) - COLTON JACKSON OT ARK

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  • Allen C
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post

    And Denver is going to pick another LT in the 1st rd this year as well. Lock is going to need protection, priority #1.
    He needs protection and weapons. Good thing this draft is deep at O LINE and WR. BPA is always the best way to go. Thomas and Whirfs are the only OT worth a top 15 pick

    I wouldn't be surprised if we took Jerry Jeudy if he's there.

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  • Action
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post

    And Denver is going to pick another LT in the 1st rd this year as well. Lock is going to need protection, priority #1.
    Nah they’re going with bolles lol

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  • peacepipe
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    Originally posted by Allen C View Post

    Bolles had a 1st round grade and we drafted him in the 1st because we needed a LT. Bad pick or reach whatever you want to call it we passed on a couple of defensive studs to draft for need and got stuck with Bolles. My point is that just because they have a 1st round grade doesn't mean they are worth a top 10 or 15 pick. Be patient and take the BPA in the first instead of trying to fill a need with someone who isn't worth the pick.
    And Denver is going to pick another LT in the 1st rd this year as well. Lock is going to need protection, priority #1.

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  • Allen C
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post

    Unfortunately going on a hope & a prayer that there’s going to be the same quality player 10-20 picks later is how you end up missing on franchise players. Bolles was a bad pick not a reach.
    Bolles had a 1st round grade and we drafted him in the 1st because we needed a LT. Bad pick or reach whatever you want to call it we passed on a couple of defensive studs to draft for need and got stuck with Bolles. My point is that just because they have a 1st round grade doesn't mean they are worth a top 10 or 15 pick. Be patient and take the BPA in the first instead of trying to fill a need with someone who isn't worth the pick.

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  • peacepipe
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    Originally posted by Allen C View Post

    That's how we ended up with a guy like Bolles instead of TreDavious White or TJ Watt.

    It is a reach when you can get the same quality of player 10-20 picks later
    Unfortunately going on a hope & a prayer that there’s going to be the same quality player 10-20 picks later is how you end up missing on franchise players. Bolles was a bad pick not a reach.

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  • Allen C
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post

    It isn’t a reach to select a 1st round rated Olineman in the 1st round.
    That's how we ended up with a guy like Bolles instead of TreDavious White or TJ Watt.

    It is a reach when you can get the same quality of player 10-20 picks later

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  • CEH
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    on Williams first decide all in or all out
    then if all in
    and you are living on a rookie QB contract I think you can afford a LT like Williams vs “hoping “ to draft a quality Olineman. Williams would be around for the duration of Locks rookie deal. By then you let the best oline coach develop a replacement.

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  • peacepipe
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    Originally posted by socalorado View Post

    Would you trade 42 for Williams?
    I’d do whatever is necessary for a legit LT.

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  • socalorado
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    Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post

    No because he is old and it costs you a ton of money and a pick. Rather try for Wisconsin C.
    I agree now. If Costanzo can be had in FA, then get him. But I wouldn't trade anything higher than a 3rd for Williams. I would love to get Biadasz and Ruggs in the 1st. Sucks cause MIA and OAK can just get both of them and they both need both these guys. I think DEN should just get Ruggs with their 1st pick and then trade back into the 1st in the early 20's and get Biadasz.
    Then take an OT like Josh Jones HOU in the top of the 2nd. Huge upside. Let Munchak do his thing with him. Im also torn on Bolles. Maybe Munchak can turn him into a solid G.

    Jones-McG-Biadasz-Risner-James

    Sutton-Ruggs-Patrick-Winfree

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  • DENVERDUI55
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    Originally posted by socalorado View Post

    Would you trade 42 for Williams?
    No because he is old and it costs you a ton of money and a pick. Rather try for Wisconsin C.

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  • socalorado
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    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post

    Part of the reason Williams didn’t get traded is because Daniel Snyder wanted it done on his terms. He felt going through with a trade would equal it happening on Williams terms. Williams held out to force a trade or release. Daniel Snyder is like Jerry Jones, just not as smart.
    Would you trade 42 for Williams?

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