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  • CHEF LUIGI
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    Originally posted by mhgaffney View Post
    Fangio did not look comfortable on the field, the first game. He's the coach, it's his call. If he likes the booth better, why not coach from there?
    becauise archer is against it, and archer is a genius who knows everything .
    archer is in fact so brilliant , he has no time to entertain sensable conversation, he has the world to run and cant be bothered by logic.

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  • Archer81
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    Did any member of the team look comfortable on Monday night?

    Maybe they all need to move to the booth. Since that appears to be the cure all for the team.

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  • mhgaffney
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    Fangio did not look comfortable on the field, the first game. He's the coach, it's his call. If he likes the booth better, why not coach from there?

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  • TheCoachBear
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    Defensive head coaches calling their plays form the sideline are surely reliant to some extent on information coming from the booth to either provide in whole or used to confirm what’s going on with personnel and formation. There’s no submarine view finder on the sideline to see over those huge ppl on the field.

    One of two things will happen:
    (1) They get better at calling the plays through Fangio on the sideline by becoming more efficient at providing him the details he needs of personnel and formations from the booth to get the call in quickly.
    (2) They pass off the play calling to Donatell in the booth.

    The end.

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  • KipCorrington25
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    You can't blame being on the field for being a ****ty coach... get your **** together.

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  • elsid13
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    Originally posted by TheCoachBear View Post
    Is there ANY head coach that’s ever coached from the booth?
    Yes, but mainly because of injuries or heath reasons. Tom Davie did it this year fore NM. It usually only a game or two.

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  • Drunken.Broncoholic2
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    Probably shouldn’t be a head coach if you have problems seeing the field from the sideline.

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  • TheCoachBear
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    Is there ANY head coach that’s ever coached from the booth?

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  • CHEF LUIGI
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    Originally posted by TheCoachBear View Post
    Calling plays from the box is much easier and faster. You can see the personnel on the field, alignment, formations, and the spacing. From the sideline you’re typically waiting on someone up top to call those two things in before making the call. And in hurry up situations defenses always have a fallback option if a call doesn’t get in fast enough, whether that’s the base or something specific to the team they’re playing or circumstances.

    Preseason gave them the opportunity to work out the logistics of who is up top calling down what details they see around personnel, formation and alignment, but because preseason isn’t as much about beating the other team as it is about making your team better it’s not a true litmus test. It’s like they drove go-carts to get ready for driving a motorcycle through Manhattan traffic in the rain. They’re learning how to pear down the process right now. It’s really tough to see those things from the sideline in the amount of time to make a good decision; so one of two things need to happen.. they get good at sending the info down and having fallback plays well coached ahead of time OR handoff playcalling to someone up top and use Fangio as a final approver. My understanding is that multiple coaches can be on the same mic line to the Green Dot helmet on the field.

    The minute I went up top to call plays it severely impacted the quality of my playcalling and outcome to the games we played. Best playcalling comes from the field though, not sure we have an Urlacher or Ray Lewis though.

    Anyone know if Bill is calling defense from the sideline or if they call from the box and he’s just the final approver?
    does not matter what BB does, or any other HC for that matter!
    VIC is comfortable seeing and calling the defense from the BOOTH;

    that is where he has been the last 40 YEARS
    forty years !
    stop being lame and go to the booth fangio !
    it aint like you are talking to anyone along the sidelines anyway !

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  • elsid13
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    Originally posted by TheCoachBear View Post
    Calling plays from the box is much easier and faster. You can see the personnel on the field, alignment, formations, and the spacing. From the sideline you’re typically waiting on someone up top to call those two things in before making the call. And in hurry up situations defenses always have a fallback option if a call doesn’t get in fast enough, whether that’s the base or something specific to the team they’re playing or circumstances.

    Preseason gave them the opportunity to work out the logistics of who is up top calling down what details they see around personnel, formation and alignment, but because preseason isn’t as much about beating the other team as it is about making your team better it’s not a true litmus test. It’s like they drove go-carts to get ready for driving a motorcycle through Manhattan traffic in the rain. They’re learning how to pear down the process right now. It’s really tough to see those things from the sideline in the amount of time to make a good decision; so one of two things need to happen.. they get good at sending the info down and having fallback plays well coached ahead of time OR handoff playcalling to someone up top and use Fangio as a final approver. My understanding is that multiple coaches can be on the same mic line to the Green Dot helmet on the field.

    The minute I went up top to call plays it severely impacted the quality of my playcalling and outcome to the games we played. Best playcalling comes from the field though, not sure we have an Urlacher or Ray Lewis though.

    Anyone know if Bill is calling defense from the sideline or if they call from the box and he’s just the final approver?
    Fangio is calling the plays from the sidelines with input from the booth.

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  • TheCoachBear
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    Calling plays from the box is much easier and faster. You can see the personnel on the field, alignment, formations, and the spacing. From the sideline you’re typically waiting on someone up top to call those two things in before making the call. And in hurry up situations defenses always have a fallback option if a call doesn’t get in fast enough, whether that’s the base or something specific to the team they’re playing or circumstances.

    Preseason gave them the opportunity to work out the logistics of who is up top calling down what details they see around personnel, formation and alignment, but because preseason isn’t as much about beating the other team as it is about making your team better it’s not a true litmus test. It’s like they drove go-carts to get ready for driving a motorcycle through Manhattan traffic in the rain. They’re learning how to pear down the process right now. It’s really tough to see those things from the sideline in the amount of time to make a good decision; so one of two things need to happen.. they get good at sending the info down and having fallback plays well coached ahead of time OR handoff playcalling to someone up top and use Fangio as a final approver. My understanding is that multiple coaches can be on the same mic line to the Green Dot helmet on the field.

    The minute I went up top to call plays it severely impacted the quality of my playcalling and outcome to the games we played. Best playcalling comes from the field though, not sure we have an Urlacher or Ray Lewis though.

    Anyone know if Bill is calling defense from the sideline or if they call from the box and he’s just the final approver?

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  • Strip Sacked
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    I think this from the booth thing is getting overhyped. Fangio says it's no big deal, and the dude's been a straight shooter. I think if this were a legitimate concern of his he would comment on it more, or Elway would do something along the lines of what was suggested. He even said so himself it's a non-issue. I think we're just desperate for reasons as to why we suck total and unforgiving ass.

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  • socalorado
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    What a fustercluck.

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  • Drunken.Broncoholic2
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    We could always actually let the defensive coordinator call plays from the booth.

    That way Fangio isn’t way over his head like he looked.


    never a fan of first year HCs also being the coordinator/calling plays at the same time.

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  • OleNumber7
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    Originally posted by Tangerine View Post
    Good lord, all I’ve heard about Fangio is how much he misses the booth, just coach from the sidelines like every other HC in NFL history. Why the heck did they hire a guy who hates being on the sidelines??
    Because Elway

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