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  • #61
    Originally posted by Arkie View Post

    There was an upstart league in the 60s that had big stars and that became very successful.
    Totally different eras. A local business guy could buy a team back then. It takes fans and a boatload of money to run a franchise. XFL is going to struggle getting fans. It's a market that is a one league success now days.

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    • #62
      I just read about Lawrence Taylor who was already a NFL star. He was unhappy with his contract so he signed with the USFL. The Giants gave him a new contract and bought out his USFL contract. I never heard that before.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Arkie View Post
        I just read about Lawrence Taylor who was already a NFL star. He was unhappy with his contract so he signed with the USFL. The Giants gave him a new contract and bought out his USFL contract. I never heard that before.
        And all that cash went right up his nose.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by elsid13 View Post

          And folded within 3 years
          The USFL made the fatal mistake of thinking they could compete with the NFL in the fall.It was too soon. They, would not have been able to compete with the NFL in the fall. Cause in the NFL the franchises in most cases ARE THE STAR. Think about it. Most Broncos fans would not stop being Broncos fans if Elway had gone to another team. The "shield" is like capt America's shield. Almost unpenetrable. The USFL shoud have stayed in the Summer, then maybe they would have had some sort of merger ala the AFL and NFL.

          The AFL started truly competing and became a big enough threat after Joe Namath became....must see TV. When New York started hyping it, the NFL needed the merger.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Broncoblood32 View Post

            The USFL made the fatal mistake of thinking they could compete with the NFL in the fall.It was too soon. They, would not have been able to compete with the NFL in the fall. Cause in the NFL the franchises in most cases ARE THE STAR. Think about it. Most Broncos fans would not stop being Broncos fans if Elway had gone to another team. The "shield" is like capt America's shield. Almost unpenetrable. The USFL shoud have stayed in the Summer, then maybe they would have had some sort of merger ala the AFL and NFL.

            The AFL started truly competing and became a big enough threat after Joe Namath became....must see TV. When New York started hyping it, the NFL needed the merger.

            No, I think the ideal time for a rival football league to start their season would be in February. Football is better as a cold weather sport. You don't want to be playing in the heat of summer and watching your players drop like flies due to heat exhaustion and dehydration. February is already a barren month for sports. You have the NBA regular season, and the NHL regular season, neither of which really matter that much as it is all about the extended playoffs for those leagues. Baseball doesn't start until April, and can largely co-exist with the second part of the season. So, Ideally, start in February following the superbowl, then run through March, April, and May. Quick play-offs that ends by the second week of June before it gets too hot.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by v2micca View Post


              No, I think the ideal time for a rival football league to start their season would be in February. Football is better as a cold weather sport. You don't want to be playing in the heat of summer and watching your players drop like flies due to heat exhaustion and dehydration. February is already a barren month for sports. You have the NBA regular season, and the NHL regular season, neither of which really matter that much as it is all about the extended playoffs for those leagues. Baseball doesn't start until April, and can largely co-exist with the second part of the season. So, Ideally, start in February following the superbowl, then run through March, April, and May. Quick play-offs that ends by the second week of June before it gets too hot.
              Yeah, probably. But then again. Baseball is the only competition in the Summer.

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              • #67
                They are going to need to get fans which is going to require a good product. Not sure how they can accumulate enough talent for a good product.

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                • #68
                  Unless there’s different ownership of teams, how legit would the XFL be? Last time Vegas wasn’t putting odds on any games cause one person,McMahon, owned all the teams.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Broncoblood32 View Post

                    The USFL made the fatal mistake of thinking they could compete with the NFL in the fall.It was too soon. They, would not have been able to compete with the NFL in the fall. Cause in the NFL the franchises in most cases ARE THE STAR. Think about it. Most Broncos fans would not stop being Broncos fans if Elway had gone to another team. The "shield" is like capt America's shield. Almost unpenetrable. The USFL shoud have stayed in the Summer, then maybe they would have had some sort of merger ala the AFL and NFL.

                    The AFL started truly competing and became a big enough threat after Joe Namath became....must see TV. When New York started hyping it, the NFL needed the merger.
                    If it hadn't been for Donald Trump, the USFL would have lasted far longer than it did if it stuck to Spring ball.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by OleNumber7 View Post

                      If it hadn't been for Donald Trump, the USFL would have lasted far longer than it did if it stuck to Spring ball.
                      I'll bite. Ok you dont like Trump so tell us why it was his fault? League was in serious debt before they voted to move to the fall which they never did.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post

                        I'll bite. Ok you dont like Trump so tell us why it was his fault? League was in serious debt before they voted to move to the fall which they never did.
                        Donald declared his opposition to spring football from the outset, and he made his real interests transparent: The team was his way to squeeze himself onto the pages of the New York tabloids, and the league provided a platform from which he could try to bully his way into the NFL, the established league that had made it clear that they wanted no part of Trump.

                        He had an extremely contentious relationship with most of the other USFL owners, who believed in the vision of an alternative spring pro football league. Ultimately, they acquiesced to the guy with the most money and the loudest voice in the room, and Trump led the USFL into a self-destructive, all-out war with the NFL.

                        Do you think the USFL would still be around today if it had remained a spring league?

                        Yes, actually I do. Ratings and attendance were growing steadily until the league announced its intention to switch its schedule to the fall. The league could have hitched its wagons to a fledgling all-sports network called ESPN and lived happily ever after.


                        https://www.salon.com/2011/04/21/trump_tollin_usfl/

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                        • #72
                          I'm sure that article isn't biased but first of all the league never played in the fall. The league was millions in depth 150 plus and Trump and the majority of the owners acknowledged the need for a change since they were bleeding so much negative cash flow.

                          USFL is a prime example why it will be tough to make it. You need a good product which the USFL was pretty good, but you need a lot of fans and even more money to fight off the NFL which ultimately has deeper pockets than about anyone trying to compete with them.

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