Game Day Thread: Preseason Week 1: Denver Broncos vs. Seattle Seahawks

[Brohemoth]

Yeah when you average the scrubs and starters it looks ugly --

Take away Freeman's 50 yard run and Freeman and Lindsay combined for 6 carries for 9 yards (1.5 avg).

Scangs better figure it out quick. An elite run game is literally the only thing that justifies this fossilized offense.

[Tombstone RJ]

Take away Freeman's 50 yard run and Freeman and Lindsay combined for 6 carries for 9 yards (1.5 avg).

Scangs better figure it out quick. An elite run game is literally the only thing that justifies this fossilized offense.

I don't get comments like this, isn't this another variation of the Shanahan offense that the Falcons ran when Matty Ice had one of his best years as a QB and the team should have won the SB?

[Brohemoth]

I don't get comments like this, isn't this another variation of the Shanahan offense that the Falcons ran when Matty Ice had one of his best years as a QB and the team should have won the SB?

I would flip it. Shanahan's offense is the variation. We'll see if Scangs is closer to Kubiak or Kyle.

Given Scangs admitted he was more conservative until he worked under Kyle, I worry about his nature.

[Cito Pelon]

Locks fine. He needs to play with the 2's. He played with total dog crap last night. How many snaps were in the dirt last night? You rewatched the game. 6? How many dropped passes? 6?
The o line are guys who aren't going to be on the team in 10 days and Brown and McKnight can't catch. Hell, even Winfree catches the hard ones and then he drops the wide open passes. Same for #48. Dude cant catch. Lock made his mistakes but he was running for his life much of the game. Mohammed not even chip blocking on the safety wasn't helping either. And he still orchestrated points and made plays. He plays with the 2's He'll look a lot better.
Den Biggest issue is the depth. The starters are fine. But the depth on the Oline for example is really bad. Cant have any injuries. That's concerning.

Upside Is the starters are good. Which is nice for a change. You could tell there was a set system in place and they were all on the same page. Never saw that last couple years. Flacco was in command and the run game and more importantly the outlet passing game to the RB's was clearly featured in just the short time the starting offense was out there. It's very reminiscent of that ATL-Shanahan offense.
The starting O line for being on the field for the 1st time was monstrous. No penalties. None.
Risner was ragdolling folks. Bolles did his job. Which is what we all wanted to see. Nothing super special, but consistent and doing his job, not making major mistakes against starters.
This is a good sign because if the run game is there, in this offense the passing game will open up.

The D was even more impressive. Like 2015 impressive. They weren't even trying. Von was at 2% and they were collapsing the pocket and in the backfield. This D is evil. Loaded in the secondary.
Bausby, Yiadom, and Su'a all were in prime from and they were the question marks prior to this year. Not anymore. If this team can get competent play from the ILB position, which none of the starters played, and the interior pass rush is collapsing the pocket, this team is a top 3 D. Maybe #1. Vic has it and it shows. But to me, to be the best in the league will fall on if Dremont Jones can be an impact player at DE. If he can get going and really find his legs and start rotating in with Wolfe and Gotstis........look out, cause that rush is already monstrous.
And remember Vic and Scans were playing vanilla. Not showing much.

Wow man, I didn't see six snaps in the dirt, did see Lock throw into the dirt twice to wide open guys. Didn't see much from the run game, yeah, a 10-yd run and a 50-yarder, but damn near every other rush attempt was stuffed at the LOS. Did see Flacco stare at a wide open Sutton on the right in the redzone, ignore him, then turn to the left and hit Freeman for one yard. Then after the rush attempts were stuffed, proceeded to toss an uncatchable pass to Sutton in the endzone.

Whatever, I realize the O system takes some getting used to especially with new coaches, three new QB's, an inexperienced center, new RT, new LG, rookie TE's. So far I think Scang & Co have things going as well as can be expected given the circumstances and only two games into preseason. Just have to wait and see how it pans out . . . . .

[Tombstone RJ]

I would flip it. Shanahan's offense is the variation. We'll see if Scangs is closer to Kubiak or Kyle.

Given Scangs admitted he was more conservative until he worked under Kyle, I worry about his nature.

fair enough

[ghwk]

Just saw the Lynch highlights. ROFL, was he really getting all that excited over playing decent against a bunch of nobodies and probably never will be? I wish the SeaCock mascot would have whooped his ass when he ran up and started throwing those punches.

Maybe you and I should stick to Lynch as topic since we agree on it! And yeah the dude was acting like it was the Superbowl. He's as dumb as ever. I can see him in a bar today talking about how he whipped bronco camp fodder L O L

[ghwk]

As far as Lock, I agree he needs time with 2nd and first team. I get concerned when he needs a lot of foot work reps with good mechanics to get the muscle memory in place. When you are playing with 3rds I think your natural bad habits are whats going to come back in the moment and end up getting reinforced.

[Cito Pelon]

Von Chubb would crush Lynch in a real game and at least one of Harris, Bausby, Simmons or Jackson would have gotten a pick last night. No way Paxton is as good as he looks in preseason.
But he did improve. If he can do that again next week and the week after, then he will be #2 behind Wilson. #2 is perfect for him anyway because knowing what I know about the fella I don't think he couldn't handle a #1 job.


As to our young QB prospect...
Lock did way better with his footwork out of the pocket when comparing his game last night to the hof game. And just as I predicted, from shotgun (where he doesn't have to do a drop) he turned the burners on. Lock may need a few more at bats before he is anything close to ready to be a #2. But right now, from shotgun, he could still come in and save the day should he be needed. That is good to know.

Keys to focus on with Lock IMO...

Footwork. He needs to get to the point that he just does it right without thinking about it. Right now he is still telling himself what he needs to do and that takes mental away from reads.

Reading the D. Lock needs to look at the angles and understand the weak points in protection. Even though he should be behind a line that can give him more than 2 seconds, he won't always be. And that means presnap reads become even more important. He needed to call for a shift of protection on the last int play. There were a few times when he didn't call out the uncovered rusher and should have seen it.

Looking off Safeties and CB's. Lock needs to scan and know that they are watching him scanning the field. He projected where he was going a couple times. In a real game those would be INTs or even defensive scores. (One was an Int)

Arch. His ability to throw Lazer straight bullet passes is awesome. But I want to see ability to drop it in from above over defenders arms

Those things will get better if worked on.

For a Rookie... And compared to last week... Lock showed progress. If he can fix one thing at a time, but at this fast rate he is showing, he will be ready by next year for sure
(Took Paxton 4years to show anything other than regression.)

Funny thing is Siemian's tendency to float backwards was something I hated. Yet it is the opposite for Lock, he needs to work on getting from center into the pocket without thinking about not stumbling. And he could use a few hours day of training his drop back leg and torso movements into his brain. It should be second nature by next year if he focuses.

(.. Seimian could see what was coming, and he would get back to the pocket fine, but he would just keep floating backward afraid of the rush... I would be like "Yes! That looks good, wait WTF are you doing? Stop, you coward. Let the tackles circle! Aw sht..." Then munkeyspunk would get splattered for a 15 yard loss. )

Lock has a high ceiling.
And he may be ready if Joe eventually gets hurt in our long season of tough opponents, Even if Hogan keeps him at #3 to start the season.

We could certainly game plan a switch to Shotgun plays that could give Lock a better chance now if he had to come in. And that's exactly what I was thinking last week. Now I'm more than sure of it.
Maybe by game 4 he will look like a pitcher that learned how to pitch...

I'm thinking pretty much the same. Lock is seeing the open guys downfield, seeing how the patterns develop, but it's kinda clear he's still trying to get his feet where they should be to deliver a pretty pass. The brain and feet are a bit out of whack. Just gonna take some time.

[TheWave]

Take away Freeman's 50 yard run and Freeman and Lindsay combined for 6 carries for 9 yards (1.5 avg).

Scangs better figure it out quick. An elite run game is literally the only thing that justifies this fossilized offense.

This take is incredible

[Zerovoltz]

I'm thinking pretty much the same. Lock is seeing the open guys downfield, seeing how the patterns develop, but it's kinda clear he's still trying to get his feet where they should be to deliver a pretty pass. The brain and feet are a bit out of whack. Just gonna take some time.

I love this and so many other evals of Locks footwork...he's been playing football since he was a kid and started 4 years at MIZZOU....wouldn't it stand to reason that if he was ever going to fix his footwork that it would have happend by now....you all don't think Dooley (who coached in the NFL) would have noticed this issue? .....you don't suppose Lock went back for his senior year because he probably had a bunch of NFL scouts in his ears telling him about his footwork? ....have you noticed yet that he just isn't the most pocket aware guy in the world too? 4 years of starting and he just doesn't have that quality of sensing the pressure around him.

[Drunken.Broncoholic2]

I love this and so many other evals of Locks footwork...he's been playing football since he was a kid and started 4 years at MIZZOU....wouldn't it stand to reason that if he was ever going to fix his footwork that it would have happend by now....you all don't think Dooley (who coached in the NFL) would have noticed this issue? .....you don't suppose Lock went back for his senior year because he probably had a bunch of NFL scouts in his ears telling him about his footwork? ....have you noticed yet that he just isn't the most pocket aware guy in the world too? 4 years of starting and he just doesn't have that quality of sensing the pressure around him.

I have no argument in this. But you actually think some QBs in this league didn’t have bad footwork that developed into good after college? Do I really need to list examples?

You come here everyday trying to school Broncos fans. When in reality you’ve never felt the pleasure of watching your team win a super bowl. That fan feeling that can only happen after a championship. You have never felt that. So until then your words ring hollow.

[socalorado]

I love this and so many other evals of Locks footwork...he's been playing football since he was a kid and started 4 years at MIZZOU....wouldn't it stand to reason that if he was ever going to fix his footwork that it would have happend by now....you all don't think Dooley (who coached in the NFL) would have noticed this issue? .....you don't suppose Lock went back for his senior year because he probably had a bunch of NFL scouts in his ears telling him about his footwork? ....have you noticed yet that he just isn't the most pocket aware guy in the world too? 4 years of starting and he just doesn't have that quality of sensing the pressure around him.

Gary, coming from a guy who bought his wife and named her Cindy, you'll just have to excuse us from not taking anything you say seriously. No go find some more practice tape of your team dominating.

[Mile High Salute]

Just saw the Lynch highlights. ROFL, was he really getting all that excited over playing decent against a bunch of nobodies and probably never will be? I wish the SeaCock mascot would have whooped his ass when he ran up and started throwing those punches.

Lynch is going to make a pre-season trophy for himself just like the KC fans, lol.

[Action]

Gary, coming from a guy who bought his wife and named her Cindy, you'll just have to excuse us from not taking anything you say seriously. No go find some more practice tape of your team dominating.

Lmao

[Mile High Salute]

Gary, coming from a guy who bought his wife and named her Cindy, you'll just have to excuse us from not taking anything you say seriously. No go find some more practice tape of your team dominating.

Lolol, savage