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  • Drunken.Broncoholic2
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    Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post
    In the 1st half, when many/most of the players on both teams will make the team were playing, the Broncos system was waaay better than the Seahawks system. If the 1st half Broncos OL was ****ing up as much as the Seahawks OL did, you guys would be going ballistic.

    A 4th year former 1st rd draft pick tearing apart 4th stringers in a preseason game is not proof of anything other than he did what he should be doing. He proved NOTHING last night other than maybe he’s starting to take football a little more seriously than he did when he was here.
    It’s hard to go by wins and losses in preseason games. The calls aren’t neccesarily to win the game, more situational football in that moment of the game. Calling plays that would be opposite in regular season like going for it on 4th. Calling a pass play near the goaline when you’d run it in for the TD in regular season. Etc etc. coaches micro manage little aspects of the moment in the game, instead of outright calling plays just to win the game.



    The main thing I got out of this game is that the depth on this team is lousy in several positions.

    Injury bug better stay away or it’s problems.

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  • Tombstone RJ
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    Originally posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2 View Post

    Lynch had multiple staffs here. You can say they stunted his growth by a being a revolving door, but plays weren’t designed to fit his strengths from Kubiak or VJ. Lynch still is an idiot. He could be a capable back up in this league though.
    He had Kubiak and his staff for less than one year and then VJ and his staff for the remainder of his Broncos' time, not sure either coaching staffs were prepared for Lynch and his issues

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  • BroncoBeavis
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    May not have helped that Mike McCoy is a **** stain that has no idea how to incorporate collegiate concepts into an NFL gameplan.

    Still don't think Lynch will pan out though. No chance you become anything special with that much lack of composure. NFL QB takes maybe the thickest skin in the business.

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  • 69bronco
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    It’s almost getting to point with elway’s offenses that new (offensive) draft picks should refuse to get drafted by a team like he did so they can have a fair shot with a team with a realistic system.

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  • Drunken.Broncoholic2
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    Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post

    I think the coaching staff was an abomination under VJ. Lynch needed a different type of coaching staff, not necessarily one that would coddle him but one that could motivate him to be better. Again, design plays specifically for his skill set and put him into situations that highlight his strengths and build his confidence. Then, over time, when he is more comfortable and more confident, you start transitioning him to a more traditional offense where he does things like play action and 3-5-7 step drop backs from under center.
    Lynch had multiple staffs here. You can say they stunted his growth by a being a revolving door, but plays weren’t designed to fit his strengths from Kubiak or VJ. Lynch still is an idiot. He could be a capable back up in this league though.

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  • R8R H8R
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    In the 1st half, when many/most of the players on both teams will make the team were playing, the Broncos system was waaay better than the Seahawks system. If the 1st half Broncos OL was ****ing up as much as the Seahawks OL did, you guys would be going ballistic.

    A 4th year former 1st rd draft pick tearing apart 4th stringers in a preseason game is not proof of anything other than he did what he should be doing. He proved NOTHING last night other than maybe he’s starting to take football a little more seriously than he did when he was here.

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  • bronco militia
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    Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post

    why couldn't the Broncos get this out of Lynch? BECAUSE THE COACHES SUCKED
    they did, IN THE PRE-SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!.... friggen lol



    2016 pre-season box scores
    https://www.footballdb.com/games/box...gid=2016081106
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    2017 pre-season
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    2018 pre-season
    https://www.footballdb.com/games/box...gid=2018080909
    https://www.footballdb.com/games/box...gid=2018081605
    https://www.footballdb.com/games/box...gid=2018082307
    https://www.footballdb.com/games/box...gid=2018083001



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  • Tombstone RJ
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    Originally posted by steeledude View Post
    Good for Paxton. I never understood why people hated him so much (DMac, the idiot #1). I think the team gave up on him pretty fast, and he was as much a project (if not more) than Lock. I don't know if he'll ever be more than a serviceable backup, but I'm happy for him. I hope Drew Lock has the right coaches around him who will give him the time he needs.
    Yep, I never understood it either, I think the previous coaching staff got zero to nothing out of Lynch because they didn't have a freaking clue what they were doing...

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  • Drunken.Broncoholic2
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    Originally posted by Brohemoth View Post
    I think Elway has a bad habit of reverting to what's familiar. If he tries a new system and it fails, he relapses back to what he knows (Kubes/Shanny protege). If a young QB fails, he relapses back to a mediocre but safe vet. If an inexperienced coach backfires, he goes for experience.

    Maybe it's not always the wrong choice. Fangio is promising. But it is frustrating that Elway goes into these predictable loops. It literally wastes seasons.
    Atmosphere.

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  • Drunken.Broncoholic2
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    Someone mentioned earlier why they were playing back and only rushing 4. That’s who Fangio is. He hates to blitz. The 4 man rush were scrubs so naturally it’s not as effective.

    Broncos defense will do a lot of this in 2019. Get used to the 4 man rushes. It can work cause Von and Co can get to the QB, but for it to succeed the back end will need to be nails in coverage. It will be interesting to see throughout the season if Fangio makes a system adjustment if they can’t be effective with that approach.

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  • Brohemoth
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    I think Elway has a bad habit of reverting to what's familiar. If he tries a new system and it fails, he relapses back to what he knows (Kubes/Shanny protege). If a young QB fails, he relapses back to a mediocre but safe vet. If an inexperienced coach backfires, he goes for experience.

    Maybe it's not always the wrong choice. Fangio is promising. But it is frustrating that Elway goes into these predictable loops. It literally wastes seasons.

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  • Drunk Monkey
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    Originally posted by steeledude View Post
    Good for Paxton. I never understood why people hated him so much (DMac, the idiot #1). I think the team gave up on him pretty fast, and he was as much a project (if not more) than Lock. I don't know if he'll ever be more than a serviceable backup, but I'm happy for him. I hope Drew Lock has the right coaches around him who will give him the time he needs.
    Really It's not like he never had a chance. To dumb to pick up the playbook in 3 years, Na, he sucks. The reason for the hate is the waste of the 1st round pick.

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  • Tombstone RJ
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    Originally posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2 View Post

    its a continuing atmosphere of the same thing since Kubiak. Lynch failed here mostly because he’s an idiot. But the atmosphere didn’t do him any favors. Lmao at forcing an offense that didn’t fit him.

    Maybe this is the coaching staff that changes it. Lynch is a clown, but there’s something to what he said, as well as what other several past players/coaches have said, some of which are not clowns.
    I think the coaching staff was an abomination under VJ. Lynch needed a different type of coaching staff, not necessarily one that would coddle him but one that could motivate him to be better. Again, design plays specifically for his skill set and put him into situations that highlight his strengths and build his confidence. Then, over time, when he is more comfortable and more confident, you start transitioning him to a more traditional offense where he does things like play action and 3-5-7 step drop backs from under center.

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  • Drunk Monkey
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    Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post

    why couldn't the Broncos get this out of Lynch? BECAUSE THE COACHES SUCKED
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    You forgetting about this. Yes the coaches sucked but so does Lynch.

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  • steeledude
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    Good for Paxton. I never understood why people hated him so much (DMac, the idiot #1). I think the team gave up on him pretty fast, and he was as much a project (if not more) than Lock. I don't know if he'll ever be more than a serviceable backup, but I'm happy for him. I hope Drew Lock has the right coaches around him who will give him the time he needs.

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