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  • Originally posted by TonyR View Post

    Ugh. It’s so brutal. Well, at least Bolles is trying harder than our FO is.
    They’ve knocked the last two drafts out of the park. What are you talking about?

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    • Originally posted by brncs_fan View Post

      I'm not sure what that says about Bolles that he might be "saved" by a rookie LG who hasn't played a single snap of NFL football yet.
      Yeah, Risner isn't going to save anyone, but he can definitely have a positive influence on him IF Bolles wants it. And actually, Munchak will have the biggest influence of anyone. I think the thinking on Risner is: Risner is 24 yrs old going on about 35 (in maturity), while Bolles is 27 going on about 13; so I think that is what they see in pairing Risner with him.

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      • any joe dineen news? foneco?

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        • Originally posted by BroncoInferno View Post
          Bolles improved from bottom tier OL in 2017 play to mid-tier in 2018. He obviously still has serious issues with penalties, but anytime I see someone make it sound like he’s a no-hoper I know that the penalties are all they paid attention to. He made improvement last season that was exactly what you’d hope to see in year two from a guy without a lot of football background. There’s more reason to be optimistic about Bolles (especially with Munchak coming in) than not.
          This. He’s below average but miles ahead of Stephenson and menelik and he got better. That said he needs to get a lot better to be anything more than a stopgap at LT

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          • Originally posted by brncs_fan View Post

            I'm not sure what that says about Bolles that he might be "saved" by a rookie LG who hasn't played a single snap of NFL football yet.
            The main point wasn’t just supposed to be Risner, the “rookie LG.” The point was more about consistency. Guys on the line generally benefit from consistency because they learn how to work together, learn each other’s strengths and weaknesses, nonverbal cues, and all the things that help them work as a “unit.” The fact that we’ve had so many injuries and changes on the line has probably stunted Bolles’ growth in these areas. He hasn’t had any long term chance to work with a solid LG who has stayed healthy.

            My hope is that Risner is able to provide that stability and teamwork.

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            • Originally posted by cmhargrove View Post

              The main point wasn’t just supposed to be Risner, the “rookie LG.” The point was more about consistency. Guys on the line generally benefit from consistency because they learn how to work together, learn each other’s strengths and weaknesses, nonverbal cues, and all the things that help them work as a “unit.” The fact that we’ve had so many injuries and changes on the line has probably stunted Bolles’ growth in these areas. He hasn’t had any long term chance to work with a solid LG who has stayed healthy.

              My hope is that Risner is able to provide that stability and teamwork.
              Just gotta hope he is good, and that jawaann is good, that Leary’s knee holds up and that McGovern can replicate his success at center in last years preseason to the regular season. If all that happens then compensating for one weak link in bolles is doable.

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              • Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
                No more Sunshine for wide receiver?
                Sunshine was released an signed by the Vikings.
                But we have a bunch of very good prospects that likely would have had him cut after PS anyway.

                Right now Sanders & Sutton are 1&2.
                With Patrick and Hamilton and Winfree as the next bunch. Trinity Benson, Brandon Langley (Yes, that is the same guy that used to be our CB. He is now a WR) and a bunch of promising others are squabbing it out to make the cut. Those last two have 4.44 & 4.37 40 speeds and both could stretch the field if they make the cut) Hamilton runs a 4.52. Winfree about the same as Hamilton.

                IRman & Fant & Butt & Fumagali are seeing some pressure from a kid named Austin Fort. So we have a good race at TE. Finally.

                Lock has already done better with the #2 team than Hogan and looks to be everything anyone hoped (a project QB with a damn good arm and feel for the game around him that needs to work on his footwork and arching the ball rather than lasering it to his receivers in a way that can be tipped).

                Rypien also is looking like he could beat out Hogan. But he gets like 4 reps to Lock's 25 reps and Hogan's 23.... Flacco looked better than them all, Until he threw 3 picks on the same day.

                The Rookie LT Wilkinson is getting hype from the OC as a surprise stand out.

                Our secondary looks badass.
                ​The new CB Bausby is pretty good.
                Yaidom looks like a Vet now too. And CHJ And Callahan are looking like pro-bowlers.
                Kareem Jackson is balling out as a Safety.
                So is Simmons. Parks is looking good too.​​​​​​
                Our pass rush looks scary on the outside, but everyone is hoping one of the inside guys can bring something.

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                • Originally posted by cmhargrove View Post

                  The main point wasn’t just supposed to be Risner, the “rookie LG.” The point was more about consistency. Guys on the line generally benefit from consistency because they learn how to work together, learn each other’s strengths and weaknesses, nonverbal cues, and all the things that help them work as a “unit.” The fact that we’ve had so many injuries and changes on the line has probably stunted Bolles’ growth in these areas. He hasn’t had any long term chance to work with a solid LG who has stayed healthy.

                  My hope is that Risner is able to provide that stability and teamwork.
                  I hope so as well. I hope that both Risner and Bowles go out there and kicks everyone’s collective asses. But the fact that a rookie lineman with not a snap to his name is being asked to help solidify a whole side of a line instead of just his position should speak volumes about where Bolles is right now.

                  It’s not being overly critical to say that the expectations for the two players are completely different and that those expectations are a fair assessment of the players themselves.
                  Last edited by brncs_fan; 07-24-2019, 06:08 AM.

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                  • How in god's name did Boles and P. Lynch get past the interview process?

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                    • Originally posted by Old Coyote View Post

                      The Rookie LT Wilkinson is getting hype from the OC as a surprise stand out.
                      Wilkinson is in his third year but potentially another free agent rookie gem signed by Elway. He played 9 games last year filling in after Leary's injury.

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                      • Originally posted by TNF View Post
                        How in god's name did Boles and P. Lynch get past the interview process?
                        Cause Elway was drafting athletes not smart football players back then. Ramcheck was a football player from a great online school but Bolles was the better athlete .

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                        • Well next year's draft is supposed to be loaded with OL. Maybe we draft a LT there or another OG and slide Risner out to LT after his rookie year

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                          • Too early to talk about cutting Bolles, but if Munchak cant get to him, then no one can. But if Bolles doesnt step it up this year, add LT to the list of priorities next offseason.

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                            • Here's Legwolds current 53 man projection, Kevin Hogan would be a waste of a roster spot. Only real issues i see is Cravens not in the secondary, maybe Benson for Cracraft, and Hogan on the roster. And maybe an extra linebacker.

                              QUARTERBACK (3): Joe Flacco, Drew Lock, Kevin Hogan.

                              RUNNING BACK (3): Phillip Lindsay, Royce Freeman, Devontae Booker.

                              FULLBACK (1): Andy Janovich.

                              TIGHT END (4): Jake Butt, Noah Fant, Jeff Heuerman, Troy Fumagalli.

                              WIDE RECEIVER (6): Emmanuel Sanders, Courtland Sutton, DaeSean Hamilton, Tim Patrick, River Cracraft, Juwann Winfree.

                              OFFENSIVE LINE (8): Garett Bolles, Ja’Wuan James, Ron Leary, Dalton Risner, Connor McGovern, Elijah Wilkinson, Sam Jones, Don Barclay.

                              DEFENSIVE LINE (6): Adam Gotsis, Shelby Harris, Derek Wolfe, Dre’Mont Jones, Zach Kerr, DeMarcus Walker.

                              LINEBACKER (9): Von Miller, Bradley Chubb, Todd Davis, Josey Jewell, Joe Jones, Keishawn Bierria, Justin Hollins, Jeff Holland, Dekoda Watson.

                              SECONDARY (10): Chris Harris Jr., Bryce Callahan, Kareem Jackson, Justin Simmons, Will Parks, Isaac Yiadom, De’Vante Bausby, Jamal Carter, Dymonte Thomas, Shamarko Thomas.

                              SPECIALIST (3): Brandon McManus, Colby Wadman, Casey Kreiter.


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                              • Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
                                Too early to talk about cutting Bolles, but if Munchak cant get to him, then no one can. But if Bolles doesnt step it up this year, add LT to the list of priorities next offseason.

                                Okay, can someone please explain where all this Bolles hate is coming from? I've been digging through is stats for the past few days and while no one would mistake him for a top 5 Tackle in the League, he has been consistently middle of the pack in most statistical categories with an upward trend. Is that disappointing for a 1st round pick that was supposed to be polished coming out of College....I guess? But he has been a day 1 starter for us since signing and while his pass protection has only been above average at best and his mental lapses are incredibly frustrating, he has been an absolute road grader in the running game and is still on his rookie contract. I get that a lot of posters are still pissed that he isn't Ryan Ramczyk. But there seems to be some personal bias against the guy who overall is a solid OT on a cheap contract.

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