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  • KOA night host said that Von Miller and Demaryius Thomas went on a secret mission to try to recruit Kirk Cousins to the Broncos in FA 2018. They were part of a select group of people who knew of the mission from John Elway. Mike Shanahan was to be the coach. They were disappointed shortly after arriving, when it became clear that Cousin's was only interested in Minnesota.

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    • Originally posted by pricejj View Post
      KOA night host said that Von Miller and Demaryius Thomas went on a secret mission to try to recruit Kirk Cousins to the Broncos in FA 2018. They were part of a select group of people who knew of the mission from John Elway. Mike Shanahan was to be the coach. They were disappointed shortly after arriving, when it became clear that Cousin's was only interested in Minnesota.
      was kubiak still in denver,otherwise this makes no sense !

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      • Originally posted by pricejj View Post
        KOA night host said that Von Miller and Demaryius Thomas went on a secret mission to try to recruit Kirk Cousins to the Broncos in FA 2018. They were part of a select group of people who knew of the mission from John Elway. Mike Shanahan was to be the coach. They were disappointed shortly after arriving, when it became clear that Cousin's was only interested in Minnesota.
        Hmm, that's not the story that Woody Paige told.


        According to five independent and reputable sources, Elway and Shanahan seriously discussed a deal last December for the former (and all-time winningest in 14 seasons) coach to replace the current head coach (with an 11-19 record). The contract was not finalized because Broncos’ CEO Joe Ellis, who also serves on the Pat Bowlen Trust board, refused to agree.

        All sources who spoke exclusively to The Gazette demanded anonymity because of their associations with the parties involved.

        Two of the sources also said that Cousins met with Shanahan (date unknown) in a back room at Shanahan’s restaurant and told the coach he would play for the Broncos, if Shanahan would be the coach, at a discounted rate. In Washington, D.C., Shanahan drafted Cousins and eventually chose him as the starter over Robert Griffin III — before Shanahan was fired from his last job in the league.


        https://gazette.com/news/woody-paige...db2f9f2bf.html

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          • Originally posted by TonyR View Post

            Hmm, that's not the story that Woody Paige told.


            According to five independent and reputable sources, Elway and Shanahan seriously discussed a deal last December for the former (and all-time winningest in 14 seasons) coach to replace the current head coach (with an 11-19 record). The contract was not finalized because Broncos’ CEO Joe Ellis, who also serves on the Pat Bowlen Trust board, refused to agree.

            All sources who spoke exclusively to The Gazette demanded anonymity because of their associations with the parties involved.

            Two of the sources also said that Cousins met with Shanahan (date unknown) in a back room at Shanahan’s restaurant and told the coach he would play for the Broncos, if Shanahan would be the coach, at a discounted rate. In Washington, D.C., Shanahan drafted Cousins and eventually chose him as the starter over Robert Griffin III — before Shanahan was fired from his last job in the league.


            https://gazette.com/news/woody-paige...db2f9f2bf.html
            It’s interesting to know but it doesn’t matter now.

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            • Thanks, TonyR interesting rumor. It also proves Elway will get over grudges. good to know.

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              • Originally posted by Bigdawg26 View Post

                It’s interesting to know but it doesn’t matter now.
                It kinda matters as Ellis is acting like he really owns the team.

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                • Originally posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2 View Post

                  It kinda matters as Ellis is acting like he really owns the team.
                  yep, that also.

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                  • Originally posted by ~Crash~ View Post
                    Thanks, TonyR interesting rumor. It also proves Elway will get over grudges. good to know.
                    elway will try anything to win!

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                    • Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                      Apparently, Pagano is the only one fired from the crappy Romeo defense, and apparently is the scapegoat. Crennel's contract expired, but may still remain with team in some capacity, at this point. Not sure if there should be some concern there or not regarding Pagano. Fangio knows him, and is himself a LBer coach, so maybe he can help him out if he thinks he needs to.

                      Anybody know what the deal is with Pagano with the Texans? Why did he seem to get blamed, as I thought their problem was in the secondary?

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                      • Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post

                        Apparently, Pagano is the only one fired from the crappy Romeo defense, and apparently is the scapegoat. Crennel's contract expired, but may still remain with team in some capacity, at this point. Not sure if there should be some concern there or not regarding Pagano. Fangio knows him, and is himself a LBer coach, so maybe he can help him out if he thinks he needs to.

                        Anybody know what the deal is with Pagano with the Texans? Why did he seem to get blamed, as I thought their problem was in the secondary?
                        Coaches are hired and fired all the time, it's hard to justify many of the firings but many times it has little to zero affect on the fired coach's ability to get hired again. It's the nature of the beast in the NFL and in football in general.

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                        • and then there is jmcd.

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                          • Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post

                            Apparently, Pagano is the only one fired from the crappy Romeo defense, and apparently is the scapegoat. Crennel's contract expired, but may still remain with team in some capacity, at this point. Not sure if there should be some concern there or not regarding Pagano. Fangio knows him, and is himself a LBer coach, so maybe he can help him out if he thinks he needs to.

                            Anybody know what the deal is with Pagano with the Texans? Why did he seem to get blamed, as I thought their problem was in the secondary?
                            John Pagano was not fired, he had a two-year contract in Houston, now his contract is over, Houston can't stop him, and John decided to leave the team ... John now returns home, he is a Colorado native, just like His whole family, that is a great reason to return home. Colorado and Fangio.

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                            • This report says the Texans dismissed John Pagano:

                              https://texanswire.usatoday.com/2020...h-john-pagano/

                              The Houston Texans have dismissed outside linebackers coach John Pagano.

                              According to a report from the Houston Chronicle’s Aaron Wilson, the AFC South club informed the senior defensive assistant that they will no longer require his services with the organization.

                              The Texans’ edge rushing was anemic in 2019 as the team produced 31 sacks, tied with the Cincinnati Bengals for the sixth-fewest in the NFL. Only the Seattle Seahawks with 28 has fewer among playoff teams.

                              Houston’s tackles for loss were also bottom-10 in the NFL as they generated 51, the third-fewest in the league and the absolute fewest among playoff teams.

                              Part of the problem was personnel. The Texans traded defensive end-outside linebacker Jadeveon Clowney to the Seahawks on Aug. 31 for draft picks and also outside linebackers Barkevious Mingo and Jacob Martin. However, given how putrid the Seahawks were with Clowney, there is no guarantee he would have made much of a difference for Houston either.

                              The Texans’ leading sack producer was outside linebacker Whitney Mercilus with 7.5. 2019 was the first time since 2017 when Clowney had 9.5 that the Texans failed to have a single player go over the double-digit sack mark.




                              https://www.rotoworld.com/football/n...14/john-pagano

                              • Texans fired outside linebackers coach John Pagano.


                                Pagano was brought in after a failed season as the Raiders defensive coordinator in 2017. He served as a senior assistant in addition to his role as the outside linebackers coach in Houston. The younger brother of former head coach Chuck Pagano will have to catch on as a lower-level assistant to remain in the NFL after a string of uninspiring results under his watch.

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                                SOURCE: Chron.com
                                Jan 18, 2020, 4:14 PM ET

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                              • Originally posted by Bronko View Post

                                John Pagano was not fired, he had a two-year contract in Houston, now his contract is over, Houston can't stop him, and John decided to leave the team ... John now returns home, he is a Colorado native, just like His whole family, that is a great reason to return home. Colorado and Fangio.
                                Regardless of his contract, the Texans apparently are telling the media he was fired. I can buy that he may have wanted to leave for Denver, but it does appear he was pushed out. If it was a cordial departing, then why didn’t the Texans tell the media it was a mutual agreement?

                                All I am saying is the Texans really sucked in the secondary, and the DB coach is not fired, but allowed to leave for a lateral job with the Titans. And Romeo, who is ultimately responsible for that crappy defense, may retire or possibly return, but not fired. The only guy the media is saying was fired is Pagano, and I just find it puzzling.

                                “Texans outside linebackers coach and senior defensive assistant John Pagano has been fired, according to Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle.”

                                https://sports.yahoo.com/report-texa...212721297.html

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