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  • LikeABoss5820
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    The contract is essentially a 2 year deal, if he flops and becomes another Watson/Stephenson, there's a 2 year out. With Munchak/Kuper, i dont think he will.

    And contracts get more expensive every year, i dont know why fans get so shocked at some contracts. Higher the cap gets, the more money players will seek/get. Inflation/value baby.

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  • Requiem
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    Lol, they can get out of the contract in year three and four if it doesn't work out and only have $6M or $3M in dead money.

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  • R8R H8R
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    If James becomes the fixture at RT he is capable of becoming, $13 mil will be a bargain in 3 yrs, and most of the guaranteed money will have already been paid.

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  • cmhargrove
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    Originally posted by oubronco View Post
    If it works who cares it's not your money
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    Front office improving the team, how dare they!

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  • ludo21
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    We paid the best OT on the market and the price goes up every year. So freaking what?

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  • jmz313
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    He stole him away from Miami, who wanted to retain him. Cost of doing business. At least RT is spoken for for the next 3 years (finally).

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  • oubronco
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    If it works who cares it's not your money

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  • DENVERDUI55
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    Originally posted by ColoradoDarin View Post

    It's this. The cap goes up every year, and contracts go up every year.
    Every year people are bitching about FA contracts along with just assuming such team is on the hook for total dollar divided by the years. They complain before seeing the breakdown and repeat year after year without learning. I remember people whining about how Manning was a rippoff at his contract and Denver wouldn't win anything with him because they couldn't afford to sign FAs.

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  • ColoradoDarin
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    Originally posted by DENVERDUI55 View Post
    The OP doesn't understand the cap and free agency. Comparing old contracts to new ones is just showing how contracts look bad initially and are deals in a few years again showing how the OP doesn't understand the cap and Free Agency.
    It's this. The cap goes up every year, and contracts go up every year.

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  • Punisher
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    Bad signing Elway sucks.

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  • DENVERDUI55
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    The OP doesn't understand the cap and free agency. Comparing old contracts to new ones is just showing how contracts look bad initially and are deals in a few years again showing how the OP doesn't understand the cap and Free Agency.

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  • R8R H8R
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    Originally posted by UberBroncoMan View Post

    The Raiders structured Brown's contract so that he has ZERO cap hit after two years. Meaning if he ****ing sucks, he's gone after two years and they're fine.
    All that means is that they had the cap room to front load the bonuses. The Broncos have no such luxury. Btw, I checked with OTC, and if the Broncos make James a post-June cut after two years, they save $11 mil on the cap, and that takes in consideration a $3 mil dead money hit. Btw, James does not suck, he is a legit starter & good scheme fit, but his injury history is a legit concern. However, he also will have the best OL coach in the league riding his ass.

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  • UberBroncoMan
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    Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
    Meh contracts always go up. Trey Flowers got 18 mil a year, and he has 22.5 sacks or so the last 3 years. Free agency is all about overpaying. It's not a great contract but there's much worse out there.

    I'm surprised James contract is bad to most, but no one says anything about Trent Brown who got way more, and came from NE where they get rid of the ball quickly.
    The Raiders structured Brown's contract so that he has ZERO cap hit after two years. Meaning if he ****ing sucks, he's gone after two years and they're fine.

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  • -Rod-
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    James' agent did not fleece anyone. Elway knew very well the kind of OT he was buying for that price and pulled the trigger. Your request for Pro Bowl/All-Pro selections is not very realistic for a career RT. I believe you know these kinds of accolades go to LTs. Lane Johnson is a rare exception and he was not voted a starter nor a reserve, but an alternate in the 2019 Pro Bowl behind Terron Armstead, Tyron Smith and Trent Williams. That does not mean RT is not extremely important. You just have to look at our own OL for the last 5 seasons. I remember how desperately Broncos fans were asking for Rick Wagner after a solid season for the Ravens [no Pro Bowl, no All-Pro], then the Lions made Wagner the league's highest-paid RT in 2017. That's how the market goes. Now it's James' turn after being the Dolphins' starting RT for 5 seasons.

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  • LikeABoss5820
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    Meh contracts always go up. Trey Flowers got 18 mil a year, and he has 22.5 sacks or so the last 3 years. Free agency is all about overpaying. It's not a great contract but there's much worse out there.

    I'm surprised James contract is bad to most, but no one says anything about Trent Brown who got way more, and came from NE where they get rid of the ball quickly.

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