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  • “Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.” Seneca, Roman philosopher.

    “I’m a great believer in luck. I find that the harder I work, the luckier I get.” Thomas Jefferson.

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    • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

      They had Tavaris Jackson, brought in Matt Flynn to compete with him for 3 years 20.5 mil and drafted Wilson.
      Flynn was potentially the starter, he was brought in to compete for the starting gig.

      The plan was for Seattle to find a franchise QB, they had a high grade on Wilson and the idea was he would sit for a year and develop. He was far more pro ready than they anticipated and won the gig off the bat.
      It wasn't luck, teams were gun shy on picking a sub 5-11 QB.

      Even with Wilson's success it's taken 6+ years for guys of his height to gain traction and get taken high in the draft.
      Seattle's plan was to start Flynn, that's why they paid him so much money. If they had known, for one minute, that Wilson would be the guy, that is, their scouting department knew he was going to win the job, and so did the front office and coaching staff, they wouldn't have waited until the 3rd round to draft Wilson.

      We've got posters right here on this very sight that argue that if a team "FINDS THAT QB, YOU DRAFT THAT QB IN THE FIRST ROUND OR YOU'RE MAKING A BIG FREEEEEEEEEEEEEKING MISTAKE, BLAH BLAH, BLAH!!!"

      I'm not sure if you are "one of those posters" but the fact is, Seattle didn't know Wilson would beat out Flynn, because, again, why pay Flynn all that money?

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      • Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post

        Seattle's plan was to start Flynn, that's why they paid him so much money. If they had known, for one minute, that Wilson would be the guy, that is, their scouting department knew he was going to win the job, and so did the front office and coaching staff, they wouldn't have waited until the 3rd round to draft Wilson.
        Exactly right.

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        • Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post

          Seattle's plan was to start Flynn, that's why they paid him so much money. If they had known, for one minute, that Wilson would be the guy, that is, their scouting department knew he was going to win the job, and so did the front office and coaching staff, they wouldn't have waited until the 3rd round to draft Wilson.

          We've got posters right here on this very sight that argue that if a team "FINDS THAT QB, YOU DRAFT THAT QB IN THE FIRST ROUND OR YOU'RE MAKING A BIG FREEEEEEEEEEEEEKING MISTAKE, BLAH BLAH, BLAH!!!"

          I'm not sure if you are "one of those posters" but the fact is, Seattle didn't know Wilson would beat out Flynn, because, again, why pay Flynn all that money?
          It was 20.5 mil over 3 years which even then was nothing for a QB. He was brought in to compete for the starting gig.
          If they were sure on Flynn starting, he would have gotten a whole hell of a lot more money and they wouldn't have taken a QB in the 3rd round.

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          • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
            If they were sure on Flynn starting, he would have gotten a whole hell of a lot more money and they wouldn't have taken a QB in the 3rd round.
            Not sure you could be more wrong about these two points.

            You don't pay a FA QB more than you have to. Doesn't matter if you view him as a starter or backup. You pay him as little as possible. It's the player's agent's job to negotiate for more money. No team is simply going to say "I know you agreed to play for $5 mil this year, but we think you're going to be our starter, so we are going to give you $15 mil instead".

            And a QB in the 3rd round means little to nothing. The Pats alone have drafted QBs higher than that MULTIPLE TIMES since Brady has been there and been the clear cut starter. Hell, just about every QB drafted in the 2nd and later rounds knows that they aren't supposed to start from day one. You can say the same for half the first round QBs.

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            • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

              It was 20.5 mil over 3 years which even then was nothing for a QB. He was brought in to compete for the starting gig.
              If they were sure on Flynn starting, he would have gotten a whole hell of a lot more money and they wouldn't have taken a QB in the 3rd round.
              BS

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              • Originally posted by Beantown Bronco View Post

                Not sure you could be more wrong about these two points.

                You don't pay a FA QB more than you have to. Doesn't matter if you view him as a starter or backup. You pay him as little as possible. It's the player's agent's job to negotiate for more money. No team is simply going to say "I know you agreed to play for $5 mil this year, but we think you're going to be our starter, so we are going to give you $15 mil instead".

                And a QB in the 3rd round means little to nothing. The Pats alone have drafted QBs higher than that MULTIPLE TIMES since Brady has been there and been the clear cut starter. Hell, just about every QB drafted in the 2nd and later rounds knows that they aren't supposed to start from day one. You can say the same for half the first round QBs.
                Originally posted by Tombstone RJ View Post

                BS
                Flynn was a hot commodity since he was viewed as a potential Matt Hasselbeck. Once again, 3 years 20.5 even back then is not "We are signing you to be the unquestioned starter" money. They traded him in the first year of the damn contract after paying his bonus.
                Teams who sign QB's to be the starter and not compete for the starting position...don't do that.

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                • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post

                  Considering the Hawks tend to get draft steals every year...it's not luck.
                  They miss on as many guys as other teams. They had a couple good drafts but other than that they are like everyone else. Flynn was signed to be the starter and Wilson played better than expected and they made the right choice.

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                  • A good reread. Lots of bitching about Jackson playing a position he wasn't signed to play. He has played really well this year.
                    Last edited by DENVERDUI55; 12-09-2019, 09:03 AM.

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                      • Dude plays VIOLENT. What a game yesterday.

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