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  • M-G
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    You can stop him by hoping he, or someone else on the team, fumbles. Peyton leads the league with 6 lost fumbles.

    Relative to every other NFL offense ever, that's the best way to stop him.

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  • Kaylore
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    Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
    If you think a Dime package defense is going to have Peyton throwing...
    It took 22 posts for someone to point out Manning audibles to run plays all the time.

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  • broncosteven
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    Originally posted by ROYC75 View Post
    Aside of Bill Belichick & RAC stopping Peyton often, why hasn't more teams done this more in Peytons twilight years ? We know Peyton is quick to read and release the ball, so again, since he is in the twilight of his years, we know the arm strength and accuracy is slipping, why not give him time to throw, time to throw more mistakes ?

    Why not give him a true 3-4-4 to look at or a 3-4-2-2 with just 2 LB's in each package? Why not rotate our front 3 each chance we get, as often as it takes for them to give everything they have on each play. We stay in a dime package and make them beat us more on the ground. In the 3-4-2-2, we can switch the corners and safeties around each time he goes to audible. Give him a change of scenery just before the snap each time, make him think more as we are busting the WR's at the LOS, allowing the pass rush to get more coverage sacks, he is not going to take off running on us. Our 2 LB's have to stay home on the run and watch the short over the middle routes with our 2 up safeties.

    I may of missed this before, but I do not recall it ever being used very much anymore ?

    True, Peyton has seen it all, but he is not the young Peyton to make all the tight window throws. Make him force those! Make him go more run, force the team to beat someone on the ground, non-conventional Peyton Manning style.

    What am I missing here?
    Your missing that despite struggling it took a backup who was inactive for weeks on end to get pushed off balance and not be able to avoid running into a punt for Denver to lose that game.

    Plus there were a ton of drops by DT and Welker.

    So if you do your Dime package you need to pray that the WR's drop those balls that Manning tries fitting into the window.

    Even with his poor yardage totals he still had more TD's than INT's and if he got the ball back on that punt we may have won that one, or at least tied.

    I think kFc is going to be forced to blitz a lot Sunday. Hoping our OL is up for the challenge and give Manning time to burn scrubs like Smith, Cooper, Flowers, and Demps.

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  • broncosteven
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    Originally posted by itswutz4dinna View Post
    Ya I think the drops got severely overlooked when saying Manning had a horrible game. He made 2 bad throws, and without more than an average number of drops had probably his usual 70% and over 200 yards, which is alot when you have almost 300 on the ground. You can't expect 600 yards of total offense, especially with a lot of short fields.

    Manning had a bad pick and an underthrow into the wind on the game-winner to DT. Honestly, though, DT could have still made that catch too. We tied a top team on the road in horrible conditions with 8 or 9 drops and everyone thinks our QB can't win a SB
    I am still pissed at DT for letting that one drag route throw when he was wide open with room to run go right though his fingers. That could have decided the game if he took that one in.

    DT and Welker had a bad game, Thomas was inactive and Decker forgot to show up but it was all Manning's fault.

    Hoping we get to see more CJ Anderson this week, he and KM could have a big game this week. Hell if Ball can hold on to the ball he could have a big game as well.

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  • itswutz4dinna
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    Originally posted by Durango View Post
    You give Manning more time and he will pick you to pieces.

    Sunday night was a combination of cold weather, wind, dropped balls, no Julius Thomas and, maybe more damaging than anything else, losing Rogers-Cromartie.

    None of those negatives will affect Denver this weekend with the possible exception of dropped balls which no-one can realistically predict, plus Bailey will be playing.

    See y'all Sunday.
    Ya I think the drops got severely overlooked when saying Manning had a horrible game. He made 2 bad throws, and without more than an average number of drops had probably his usual 70% and over 200 yards, which is alot when you have almost 300 on the ground. You can't expect 600 yards of total offense, especially with a lot of short fields.

    Manning had a bad pick and an underthrow into the wind on the game-winner to DT. Honestly, though, DT could have still made that catch too. We tied a top team on the road in horrible conditions with 8 or 9 drops and everyone thinks our QB can't win a SB

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  • mwill07
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    Originally posted by Archer81 View Post
    Considering Denver still put up 400 yards and 31+ points in either loss, not sure there is a surefire way to beat Manning. Just get lucky and catch breaks at the right time.


    seriously.

    The Seahawks are the second highest scoring team in the league, scoring 27.8 points per game. at holding the Broncos to 3 more than that = stopping Manning.

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  • Archer81
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    Considering Denver still put up 400 yards and 31+ points in either loss, not sure there is a surefire way to beat Manning. Just get lucky and catch breaks at the right time.


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  • Durango
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    You give Manning more time and he will pick you to pieces.

    Sunday night was a combination of cold weather, wind, dropped balls, no Julius Thomas and, maybe more damaging than anything else, losing Rogers-Cromartie.

    None of those negatives will affect Denver this weekend with the possible exception of dropped balls which no-one can realistically predict, plus Bailey will be playing.

    See y'all Sunday.

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  • KCStud
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    Pressure right up the middle. Pats exploited the A gap and forced Manning to get uncomfortable and out of the pocket.

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  • swaiy
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    I think thats a recipe to get run all over.

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  • ColoradoDarin
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    You can't stop everything and Peyton will (most times) take what you give him. Either way, comes down to execution.

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  • oubronco
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    Haven't you heard, we have "No Chance"

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  • myMind
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    Originally posted by ROYC75 View Post
    Aside of Bill Belichick & RAC stopping Peyton often, why hasn't more teams done this more in Peytons twilight years ? We know Peyton is quick to read and release the ball, so again, since he is in the twilight of his years, we know the arm strength and accuracy is slipping, why not give him time to throw, time to throw more mistakes ?

    Why not give him a true 3-4-4 to look at or a 3-4-2-2 with just 2 LB's in each package? Why not rotate our front 3 each chance we get, as often as it takes for them to give everything they have on each play. We stay in a dime package and make them beat us more on the ground. In the 3-4-2-2, we can switch the corners and safeties around each time he goes to audible. Give him a change of scenery just before the snap each time, make him think more as we are busting the WR's at the LOS, allowing the pass rush to get more coverage sacks, he is not going to take off running on us. Our 2 LB's have to stay home on the run and watch the short over the middle routes with our 2 up safeties.

    I may of missed this before, but I do not recall it ever being used very much anymore ?

    True, Peyton has seen it all, but he is not the young Peyton to make all the tight window throws. Make him force those! Make him go more run, force the team to beat someone on the ground, non-conventional Peyton Manning style.

    What am I missing here?
    The grammar police will give you a pass due to turkey day.

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  • whoeey
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    Originally posted by Rausch 2.0 View Post
    Manning seems like more of an Apple-tini guy to me...
    If the pats make it to the AFCC game in Denver, bellychick will have to plan on stopping the run. He got lucky with some key turnovers and calls or he would have been exposed at his place.

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  • Rausch 2.0
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    Originally posted by whoeey View Post
    That's true as well.

    The best qb in the league had a semi-average game (Moreno in destroy mode) and everyone panics. Anyone who counts on that happening again this season is bettin against the odds! I bet Archie has explained to Peyton the importance of running pregame forties by now.
    Manning seems like more of an Apple-tini guy to me...

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