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  • #31
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    • #32
      Originally posted by fontaine View Post
      I don't really care about the flag.

      I care more about how poorly Duke plays in coverage. He doesn't have the footwork or ability to cover anyone all that well.
      Didn't the trash talking come after a great coverage play by him?

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      • #33
        That call was a crock of sh*t - especially when the McChiefs' DBs were repeatedly getting away with pushing and shoving Welker to the ground after plays were whistled dead, etc.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TheElusiveKyleOrton View Post
          And pardon me, but jawing and talking trash isn't NEARLY on the same level as this ****:

          Thank you!

          Just the sort of classless and dirty play we've come to expect from the McChiefs over the years.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by rolandftw View Post
            If you're going to call it, then you need to call Brandon Flowers for some of the late hits on Welker.

            It was a stupid penalty though. Can't really say it gave points to the Chiefs, as it would have been 3rd and 8, from the Broncos 12. I like the Broncos chances of getting a stop in that situation, but Bowe did score a TD on 3rd and 6 (even with the shove)
            I think you pretty much proved that Nacho's taunting probably was worth 4 points to the Chiefs.

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            • #36
              Looked like Vegas point shaving to me. They could call that on every play in the game.

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              • #37
                I'm not above thinking that the NFL has a strategy going into these games and pull the strings on the puppets when they need to. Look no farther than last year's Super Bowl.

                Yesterday's call was on a critical failed 3rd down conversion. Denver was rolling, just put a 10 spot on the chiefs. If KC gets out of there with 3 pts, the boat race is firmly in effect as we had all the momentum. They get that judgement call and then the non-PI catch for a TD and it's 10-7, national audience is still actively engaged, the meeting two weeks from now still has credibility.

                The 21 combined penalties made me think that the NFL had to pay some bills last night. That was ridiculous

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                • #38
                  Regardless of whether it benefits or hurts the Broncos, I have a real problem with that call in that situation.

                  The game was chippy all night, as to be expected in a rivalry game between two good teams. There was **** talking and cheap shots from the opening kickoff. The refs should have set the no BS tone be giving the Broncos and or the Chefs a deadball unsportsmanlike early in a possession, where it didn't directly add or take points off of the board. This isn't high school football. There isn't some sort of moral lesson to be learned by correcting naughty language on the field. PI, holding, even formation penalties are subjective, but directly related to enforcing the rules of the game.

                  This is a ref interjecting himself into the game in something unrelated to protecting player safety or making a game performance call.

                  These are grown men and millions of dollars are at stake in the decision making process of the officiating. They basically gave the Chefs 4 points which could have drastically effected the outcome based on something unrelated to playing the game itself.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by razorwire77 View Post
                    Regardless of whether it benefits or hurts the Broncos, I have a real problem with that call in that situation.

                    The game was chippy all night, as to be expected in a rivalry game between two good teams. There was **** talking and cheap shots from the opening kickoff. The refs should have set the no BS tone be giving the Broncos and or the Chefs a deadball unsportsmanlike early in a possession, where it didn't directly add or take points off of the board. This isn't high school football. There isn't some sort of moral lesson to be learned by correcting naughty language on the field. PI, holding, even formation penalties are subjective, but directly related to enforcing the rules of the game.

                    This is a ref interjecting himself into the game in something unrelated to protecting player safety or making a game performance call.

                    These are grown men and millions of dollars are at stake in the decision making process of the officiating. They basically gave the Chefs 4 points which could have drastically effected the outcome based on something unrelated to playing the game itself.
                    Agree. This call was a BS penalty. Nacho should have shut up, but players talk trash to each other all game long, and this penalty gave the chiefs an unwarranted 1st down and second chance after Denver held them on 3rd and 8. . Then they don't call the offensive PI on the ensuing TD.

                    I was glad to see the refs call KC for the defensive holds early on, but then they seemed to do their best to not let KC get blown out.

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                    • #40
                      Why was nacho covering Bowe like a corner most of the night? How many CBs do we have active on game day?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Drunken.Broncoholic2 View Post
                        Why was nacho covering Bowe like a corner most of the night? How many CBs do we have active on game day?
                        Yesterday was 4

                        DRC, Chris Harris, Webster, Jammer

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Jesterhole View Post
                          It was stupid because they walked RIGHT IN FRONT of a ref while he was jawing at him. If you don't hear him, no flag. Nacho needs to be smarter and make plays. He hasn't done much of late.
                          It was also stupid because Duke did nothing that play to actually stop the completion. He was beat. When you're beat and the WR misses the ball, you have no room to **** talk.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by RhymesayersDU View Post
                            Agreed. These guys talk **** to each other all game long. We used to have Shannon Sharpe talking non-stop here. Weird flag.

                            Since we can't hear him, obviously we don't know what was said. I wonder if there's a "magic word" or line that isn't supposed to be crossed?
                            That's what I'm saying. These guys are talking all game long. Was it something extra bad that he said or was it simply because it was right in front of the official. It was a harsh move considering the circumstances. That was crap call considering what the chiefs were getting away with.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by cmhargrove View Post
                              Maybe not the most intelligent thing for Nacho to do, but I have to admit that I like our defense playing mean. I'll take a hard-hitting, trash talking, violent defense that protects our home field any day. The Chiefs defense was playing cheap, and as long as we keep a cushion on the scoreboard, this game was pretty personal.

                              I love the fire from Woodyard, Vickerson, and Nacho. Defense needs a swagger and I don't mind giving up a few penalties as long as it doesn't cost the team overall.
                              I love the fire Atwater and Smith had as safeties. They usually let their fire smack the opponent with enough force they didn't need to head bump the receiver or talk smack in their face while they headed back to the huddle. The message was sent. The best kind of getting in the opponents head.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bpc View Post
                                Awful call. There are 30-40 plays like that in every game. Ref chose an idiotic (or strategic time) to throw that flag. Then they followed it up on the following play by allowing D. Bowe to throw Webster on the ground. If you're going to call an offensive PI, that would have been the ideal case and they swallowed their whistle.
                                Flowers was manhandling Welker the whole first half in what looked to me like obvious and illegal holding over and over and very aggressive contact beyond 5 yard--like throwing to the ground contact. It's hard to believe it wasn't called repeatedly. Can't help but think the ref's irresponsibility in that regard contributed to the injury. It was clearly "open season on Wes Welker with no consequences day."

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