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  • Originally posted by chrisp View Post
    Arguments in favour

    Weak upcoming QB draft class
    Weak upcoming HC market
    Strong schedule - played hard against strong teams
    Horrible injury luck - possibly the worst season ever for injuries
    Consistency in general
    Top-12 scoring defense
    You could definitely add "saddled with a terrible QB" to that list. But, yeah, I want the guy out of the building too. Him and the terrible QB.

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    • Saddled with a terrible QB?

      JFC. He signed a 2-year deal and he’s got a year left. The handwringing on this board over how a short-term QB is going to affect the coaching search at this point is embarrassing.

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      • Originally posted by Hercules Rockefeller View Post
        Saddled with a terrible QB?

        JFC. He signed a 2-year deal and he’s got a year left. The handwringing on this board over how a short-term QB is going to affect the coaching search at this point is embarrassing.
        You completely misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying that an argument in favor of VJ is that he was saddled with a bad QB. Which he was. Hard to win in the NFL. Even harder to do it with a bottom tier QB. My comment had nothing to do with the coaching search or the length of Keenum's contract.

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        • Originally posted by TonyR View Post
          You completely misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying that an argument in favor of VJ is that he was saddled with a bad QB. Which he was. Hard to win in the NFL. Even harder to do it with a bottom tier QB. My comment had nothing to do with the coaching search or the length of Keenum's contract.
          I disagree with the saddled with a bad QB excuse.
          CASE was a play-off contender last year, he played well.
          KEENUM was diminished as a QB playing with the broncos because they accentuated his weaknesses, not his strengths !

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          • Originally posted by TonyR View Post
            You completely misunderstood what I was saying. I'm saying that an argument in favor of VJ is that he was saddled with a bad QB. Which he was. Hard to win in the NFL. Even harder to do it with a bottom tier QB. My comment had nothing to do with the coaching search or the length of Keenum's contract.
            Yeah, I totally misread that.

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            • Originally posted by CHEF LUIGI View Post
              I disagree with the saddled with a bad QB excuse.
              CASE was a play-off contender last year, he played well.
              KEENUM was diminished as a QB playing with the broncos because they accentuated his weaknesses, not his strengths !
              He has no strengths. He is a neckless Matt Cassel. He does nothing well that a QB is required to do.

              Weak Arm
              Poor pocket presence
              Lead footed
              Inaccurate
              Holds ball too long
              Throws Ints
              Doesn't know where to go with the ball
              Makes boneheaded mental errors (clock run down on 4th down)

              What do you see as his strengths?

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              • Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
                He has no strengths. He is a neckless Matt Cassel. He does nothing well that a QB is required to do.

                Weak Arm
                Poor pocket presence
                Lead footed
                Inaccurate
                Holds ball too long
                Throws Ints
                Doesn't know where to go with the ball
                Makes boneheaded mental errors (clock run down on 4th down)

                What do you see as his strengths?
                He’s gritty, dammit!

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                • Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
                  He has no strengths. He is a neckless Matt Cassel. He does nothing well that a QB is required to do.

                  Weak Arm
                  Poor pocket presence
                  Lead footed
                  Inaccurate
                  Holds ball too long
                  Throws Ints
                  Doesn't know where to go with the ball
                  Makes boneheaded mental errors (clock run down on 4th down)

                  What do you see as his strengths?
                  Keesums strengths were Zimmer and Shurmur. And! As a bonus, he's an overachiever.

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                  • Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
                    He has no strengths. He is a neckless Matt Cassel. He does nothing well that a QB is required to do.

                    Weak Arm
                    Poor pocket presence
                    Lead footed
                    Inaccurate
                    Holds ball too long
                    Throws Ints
                    Doesn't know where to go with the ball
                    Makes boneheaded mental errors (clock run down on 4th down)

                    What do you see as his strengths?
                    did these limitations that you outlined reveal themselves last year in minny ? let me amswer by saying 'NO"
                    or at least not to the extent they did this year.

                    They dumped case for a 90 million guarantee QB, the prise of free agency last year, how is he looking?
                    My point is MANERS and bronmco fans cant be fixated on just the QB play as an answer to our problems.
                    our COACHES influence the impact of our QB !
                    even minny has recently discovered that their expensive QB is a better QB when he throws the ball LESS.
                    is WENTS a superior QB talent to foles?
                    MOST would say "absolutely"
                    But I contend the eagles play better with FOLES !
                    why?
                    because they COACH better when foles is in !
                    They do npot rely on WENTZ, instead they focus on the TEAM !
                    every single NFL team is re-discovering that a RUN game commitment is essential to winning football !
                    even the juggernaut offenses of CK and LA are faced with the reality that they are less competent of winning without the run game.
                    to all of you who say,
                    our broncos would be a better team if we had a better QB, i respond by saying that CVASE has already proven that he is a better QB when on a better team with a better offensive gameplan.
                    meanwhile MINNY is learning the exact same lesson !

                    we might have one more win this year, maybe 2 if we had aaron rodgers as our QB, but...
                    we wouls still be the third best team in our division and no hoe for the play-offs.
                    we need new COACHES before we need a new QB
                    that is my point, does not matter who the new QB might be, he aint going anywhere special without the right coaches and gameplans

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                    • Originally posted by socalorado View Post
                      Keesums strengths were Zimmer and Shurmur. And! As a bonus, he's an overachiever.
                      great answer !

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