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  • #61
    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    well Keenum for the most part has been playing from behind which isnt the most comfortable situation. Who you should be down on is John Elway. Asside for making easy decisions like signing Peyton Manning and drafting Von Miller number 2, this is the year he should have drafted a quarterback not another pass rusher. He hasn't made the best decisions as a GM but, he did score with Peyton.
    Keenum isn't.your biggest problem, your defense is.
    Defense played bad vs the Jets, but other than that, they've been ok imo.

    Denver's the only team to even remotely slow down KC and the Rams. Ravens scored 27, Seahawks 24, Raiders 19. Defense has played fine, if Keenum had a pulse, Denver probably beats KC and the Rams, those were winnable games.

    Considering the NFL rules in todays game, the offense has scored 27, 20, 14, 23, 20 and 16. Denver has too many weapons to be that bad on offense.
    Last edited by LikeABoss5820; 10-18-2018, 09:43 AM.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
      well Keenum for the most part has been playing from behind which isnt the most comfortable situation. Who you should be down on is John Elway. Asside for making easy decisions like signing Peyton Manning and drafting Von Miller number 2, this is the year he should have drafted a quarterback not another pass rusher. He hasn't made the best decisions as a GM but, he did score with Peyton.
      Keenum isn't.your biggest problem, your defense is.
      Yes I am down on Elway, as a 7-15 run would warrant.

      Keenum is our biggest problem though looking forward. As in, lack of a QB in the NFL will doom you and he is playing like a rookie and has been the biggest weak spot on offense.

      Joe Woods sucks and the defense has regressed majorly but in the losses the Keenum lead offense has scored 14, 23, 16 and 20 points.

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      • #63
        at least charger fans are still happy keesum is starting

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        • #64
          Originally posted by socalorado View Post
          And in typical fairweather fan fashion, SpaklerDolt shows up after he reads the media reports telling him his travel team is "good" again.
          Stickers back on his minivan!
          Nothing to do with it. I don't think we are winning any Superbowl this year but we are making progress. I'm pretty fair and I don't come here to talk smack. Just stating what I believe to be true. Many here thought Tebow was a good QB while I said he wasn't. I just think your homering for Kelly who won't be much more than a backup Elway screwed you in the QB department by not drafting a QB when you had the fifth pick.
          Last edited by Boltjolt; 10-18-2018, 10:45 AM.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
            Nothing to do with it. I don't think we are winning any Superbowl this year but we are making progress. I'm pretty fast and I don't come here to talk smack. Just stating what I believe to be true. Many here thought Tebow was a good QB while I said he wasn't. I just think your homering for Kelly who won't be much more than a backup Elway screwed you in the QB department by not drafting a QB when you had the fifth pick.
            Odds are Kelly wont pan out, but what we do know is that Keenum isnt it. Denver needs to see for better or worse what they have in Kelly before taking one in the next draft or two.

            The team isnt winning anything this year, they should be evaluating young players to see what they have.

            It's also easy to say signing Peyton was easy but he sold Peyton coming to Denver. It's also easy to say Von was an easy pick at 2 but most wanted Dareus due to our DT situaton at the time. And Peterson, among some others. Wasnt an easy pick.

            Regarding Kelly, can we at least find out if he's any good or not, we know what Keenum is.
            Last edited by LikeABoss5820; 10-18-2018, 09:56 AM.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
              Nothing to do with it. I don't think we are winning any Superbowl this year but we are making progress. I'm pretty fast and I don't come here to talk smack. Just stating what I believe to be true. Many here thought Tebow was a good QB while I said he wasn't. I just think your homering for Kelly who won't be much more than a backup Elway screwed you in the QB department by not drafting a QB when you had the fifth pick.
              Who cares what you think?

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                Nothing to do with it. I don't think we are winning any Superbowl this year but we are making progress. I'm pretty fast and I don't come here to talk smack. Just stating what I believe to be true. Many here thought Tebow was a good QB while I said he wasn't. I just think your homering for Kelly who won't be much more than a backup Elway screwed you in the QB department by not drafting a QB when you had the fifth pick.
                Eh, I'm not all that confident josh Allen will amount to much. I do like Rosen better, but putting a magical number 5 draft slot next to a QB doesn't make him good.

                Also, as someone who ****ing hates revisionist history, Elway does deserve credit for Manning and Von. First off, yes, it's easy to want Manning, but Elway sold him on Denver. As for Von, though many wanted him here, there were many, many, many, many who wanted Marcel Dareus or Patrick Peterson.

                Oh, and Keenum sucks. Part of the reason we play from behind is because he sucks. Maybe he'll get it together, but I can't imagine him ever being all that great. Who knows what Kelly will be. Maybe he will suck. But can we please find out?

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                  well Keenum for the most part has been playing from behind which isnt the most comfortable situation. Who you should be down on is John Elway. Asside for making easy decisions like signing Peyton Manning and drafting Von Miller number 2, this is the year he should have drafted a quarterback not another pass rusher. He hasn't made the best decisions as a GM but, he did score with Peyton.
                  Keenum isn't.your biggest problem, your defense is.
                  Which tends to happen when a QB can't get the job done on 3rd downs and in the red zone.

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                  • #69
                    Mmm... this is pretty

                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">rosen <a href="https://t.co/qH6HerKRMy">pic.twitter.com/qH6HerKRMy</a></p>&mdash; ������ calvin grisly ������ (lakers 0-0) (@FourVerts) <a href="https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1052963528011915267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                      No he isn't right now. He may develop to be better than Keenum but he isn't right now. sounds like you're putting a lot of faith in somebody who look good in preseason against second and third stringers but hey I guess that's what you got to go on


                      Joke of the day, thank you

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                      • #71
                        Peyton is perfect for something like this.

                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Great clip of Peyton Manning breaking down Josh Rosen in the latest ESPN+ episode of &quotetail.&quot; Watch here: <a href="https://t.co/a5Ne6keosv">https://t.co/a5Ne6keosv</a> <a href="https://t.co/mluslWwwy0">pic.twitter.com/mluslWwwy0</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1053041482913976320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Excited to welcome #18 himself - Peyton Manning - to the Detail franchise on ESPN+. He’ll break down eight NFL games this season. Catch the first one tomorrow. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GOAT?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GOAT</a> <a href="https://t.co/RYzuyxHJNX">https://t.co/RYzuyxHJNX</a></p>&mdash; Kobe Bryant (@kobebryant) <a href="https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/1052583888940355585?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by GoneFishin' View Post
                          Mmm... this is pretty

                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">rosen <a href="https://t.co/qH6HerKRMy">pic.twitter.com/qH6HerKRMy</a></p>&mdash; ������ calvin grisly ������ (lakers 0-0) (@FourVerts) <a href="https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1052963528011915267?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 18, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                          I just watched the Peyton detail thing. Pretty interesting.

                          He applauds Rosen's throw on this play, but comments that it's the wrong read. He should have hit Fitzgerald on the cross and it probably goes for a TD.

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                          • #73
                            That Chubb pick is looking really freaking good right now. 6.5 sacks so far.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Agamemnon View Post
                              That Chubb pick is looking really freaking good right now. 6.5 sacks so far.
                              Again, the pick always looked good. The difference is the sacks are coming now. He was playing the run pretty well and adjusting to being an OLB.

                              The stats weren't coming because of the scheme dropping him into coverage along with Von.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
                                Again, the pick always looked good. The difference is the sacks are coming now. He was playing the run pretty well and adjusting to being an OLB.

                                The stats weren't coming because of the scheme dropping him into coverage along with Von.
                                Nobody was playing the run pretty well prior to Arizona.

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