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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hamrob View Post
    I think we'll get to see Kelly play in the 2nd half of the season. What's going to suck is that he's not going to have a team worth a **** by the time we get there.

    Too many injuries. Too many quitters. We may also have assistants leading the team at that point.
    That's why you start Kelly now when there is hope and guys still are playing hard.

    Starting him when the season is totally lost is stupid.

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    • #32
      Mayfield's QBR has declined every week since he took over for Tyrod Taylor in Week 3. In that relief appearance, he had a week-best 96.1 QBR. But he followed it up with a 53.1, a 41.0 and a 14.5 in Week 6 against the Chargers.

      http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...2018-total-qbr

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      • #33
        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Exciting time to be a <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> fan. You're No. 11 in NFL in scoring, your QB was youngest Week 1 starter in NFL history &amp; he's already elevating guys like Jermaine Kearse, Quincy Enunwa, Chris Herndon etc. Bruce Arians was effusive in his praise of Sam Darnold on Sunday's broadcast.</p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1051831718662103047?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/nyjets?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nyjets</a> QB <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SamDarnold?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SamD arnold</a> had himself a great <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a> Sunday. Lots of throws down the field, to his WR’s, out of empty sets. The training wheels are off. Turn this 21 year old kid loose. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BaldysBreakdowns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >#BaldysBreakdowns</a> <a href="https://t.co/B7KkNFpBSx">pic.twitter.com/B7KkNFpBSx</a></p>&mdash; Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1052180766384381952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;That stuff is not normal for a kid.&quot; -- Dan Orlovsky with a great breakdown of one of Sam Darnold's five touchdown passes over the last two weeks. Tremendous anticipation &amp; ball placement. <a href="https://t.co/WTrnEV6FOQ">https://t.co/WTrnEV6FOQ</a></p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1051834708944936960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 15, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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        • #34
          Originally posted by TonyR View Post
          Mayfield's QBR has declined every week since he took over for Tyrod Taylor in Week 3. In that relief appearance, he had a week-best 96.1 QBR. But he followed it up with a 53.1, a 41.0 and a 14.5 in Week 6 against the Chargers.

          http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...2018-total-qbr
          Cleveland is winning with a talented Defense and a running game. Mayfield has been pretty mediocre.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by TonyR View Post
            Mayfield's QBR has declined every week since he took over for Tyrod Taylor in Week 3. In that relief appearance, he had a week-best 96.1 QBR. But he followed it up with a 53.1, a 41.0 and a 14.5 in Week 6 against the Chargers.

            http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...2018-total-qbr
            QBR? lulz

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Agamemnon View Post
              QBR? lulz
              Ok, you want his QB ratings instead?

              9/20 vs. Jets: 100.1
              9/30 vs. Raiders: 70.7
              10/7 vs. Ravens: 81.7
              10/14 vs. Chargers: 52.6

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              • #37
                Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                Ok, you want his QB ratings instead?

                9/20 vs. Jets: 100.1
                9/30 vs. Raiders: 70.7
                10/7 vs. Ravens: 81.7
                10/14 vs. Chargers: 52.6
                And yet Keemian's ratings were 95.0 and 91.7 the last two games, so he must be better than Darnold. Ratings don't tell the whole story.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post
                  And yet Keemian's ratings were 95.0 and 91.7 the last two games, so he must be better than Darnold. Ratings don't tell the whole story.
                  True. But you can make generalizations from them. For example, higher rated QB's are generally better than lower rated QB's. And this becomes more true as the sample size grows.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TonyR View Post
                    True. But you can make generalizations from them. For example, higher rated QB's are generally better than lower rated QB's. And this becomes more true as the sample size grows.
                    Yep - I agree. Just wish they would split it into garbage time stats vs. a prevent defense and real stats when the game is still on the line. It would make it a lot easier to justify Keemian's benching with what all of us can see using the eye test.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mile High Salute View Post
                      Yep - I agree. Just wish they would split it into garbage time stats vs. a prevent defense and real stats when the game is still on the line. It would make it a lot easier to justify Keemian's benching with what all of us can see using the eye test.
                      But Keenum is actually a good example. He's 29th in QB rating, and 29th in QBR. So even though he may not be perfectly ranked, he's ranked low. And a low ranking in both stats is a pretty good indicator that he sucks. And that your eyes don't deceive you.

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                      • #41
                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ready to have your mind blown? Check out the best &amp; worst-rated QBs OUTSIDE THE POCKET this season.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FightForEachOther?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw ">#FightForEachOther</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/InBrotherhood?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#I nBrotherhood</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/RavensFlock?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Rav ensFlock</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FlyEaglesFly?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Fl yEaglesFly</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Seahawks?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Seahaw ks</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Skol?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Skol</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/LARams?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#LARams</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoNiners?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoNine rs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBills </a> <a href="https://t.co/WPSl3l8wBu">pic.twitter.com/WPSl3l8wBu</a></p>&mdash; NFL Matchup on ESPN (@NFLMatchup) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLMatchup/status/1052203849027637251?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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                        Get Mayfield and Allen out of the pocket and they self destruct.

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                        • #42
                          I just learned that Phillip Rivers is athletic enough to get out of the pocket.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
                            What QB will be worth taking with our top 5 pick in 2019?
                            This QB class isn't going to be that great. Certainly not like this year's class. It will be better in 2020.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by GaryPupiak View Post
                              Chad Kelly's talent is so far superior to Keenum it defies all common logic why he is not playing.

                              Not only is his talent superior, he is exciting to watch. Keenum = zzzzzzzzz.
                              It's radio. It makes sense because it's Radio.

                              He also put von Miller in coverage and Roby as an outside CB. He picks Garcia over McGovern. He sticks with Marshall over Jewel. He doesn't move Boles or give him help when he gets smoked. He calls for 3 back to back passing plays when our running game is killing it.
                              He doesn't know how to use a radio.

                              It makes perfect sense....

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by GaryPupiak View Post
                                Chad Kelly's talent is so far superior to Keenum it defies all common logic why he is not playing.

                                Not only is his talent superior, he is exciting to watch. Keenum = zzzzzzzzz.
                                Chad Kelly? Lol, what, did he have a good preseason game against the 2nd and 3rd string or something? He is more talented than Keenum? Lol, based on what?
                                Seriously, you got to be kidding.

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