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  • ShaneFalco
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    at least charger fans are still happy keesum is starting

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    well Keenum for the most part has been playing from behind which isnt the most comfortable situation. Who you should be down on is John Elway. Asside for making easy decisions like signing Peyton Manning and drafting Von Miller number 2, this is the year he should have drafted a quarterback not another pass rusher. He hasn't made the best decisions as a GM but, he did score with Peyton.
    Keenum isn't.your biggest problem, your defense is.
    Yes I am down on Elway, as a 7-15 run would warrant.

    Keenum is our biggest problem though looking forward. As in, lack of a QB in the NFL will doom you and he is playing like a rookie and has been the biggest weak spot on offense.

    Joe Woods sucks and the defense has regressed majorly but in the losses the Keenum lead offense has scored 14, 23, 16 and 20 points.

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  • LikeABoss5820
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    well Keenum for the most part has been playing from behind which isnt the most comfortable situation. Who you should be down on is John Elway. Asside for making easy decisions like signing Peyton Manning and drafting Von Miller number 2, this is the year he should have drafted a quarterback not another pass rusher. He hasn't made the best decisions as a GM but, he did score with Peyton.
    Keenum isn't.your biggest problem, your defense is.
    Defense played bad vs the Jets, but other than that, they've been ok imo.

    Denver's the only team to even remotely slow down KC and the Rams. Ravens scored 27, Seahawks 24, Raiders 19. Defense has played fine, if Keenum had a pulse, Denver probably beats KC and the Rams, those were winnable games.

    Considering the NFL rules in todays game, the offense has scored 27, 20, 14, 23, 20 and 16. Denver has too many weapons to be that bad on offense.
    Last edited by LikeABoss5820; 10-18-2018, 10:43 AM.

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  • socalorado
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    And in typical fairweather fan fashion, SpaklerDolt shows up after he reads the media reports telling him his travel team is "good" again.
    Stickers back on his minivan!

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  • Boltjolt
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    Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
    What you don't seem to understand is we don't care about right now. Keenum is the 29th rated QB in the league and this team is going nowhere. Keenum is down there with the Darnolds, Bortles, Allens, Mayfields, Mariotas of the league.

    Why would we care if our QB was rated 32nd instead of 29th but actually had theoretical upside instead of being a maxed out 6 year journeyman?

    Of course all that is premised on the belief that a team that had 4 of their first 6 games at home winning 2 and is 1-11 in their last 12 road games is not going on some big playoff run.
    well Keenum for the most part has been playing from behind which isnt the most comfortable situation. Who you should be down on is John Elway. Asside for making easy decisions like signing Peyton Manning and drafting Von Miller number 2, this is the year he should have drafted a quarterback not another pass rusher. He hasn't made the best decisions as a GM but, he did score with Peyton.
    Keenum isn't.your biggest problem, your defense is.

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    No he isn't right now. He may develop to be better than Keenum but he isn't right now. sounds like you're putting a lot of faith in somebody who look good in preseason against second and third stringers but hey I guess that's what you got to go on
    What you don't seem to understand is we don't care about right now. Keenum is the 29th rated QB in the league and this team is going nowhere. Keenum is down there with the Darnolds, Bortles, Allens, Mayfields, Mariotas of the league.

    Why would we care if our QB was rated 32nd instead of 29th but actually had theoretical upside instead of being a maxed out 6 year journeyman?

    Of course all that is premised on the belief that a team that had 4 of their first 6 games at home winning 2 and is 1-11 in their last 12 road games is not going on some big playoff run.

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  • Boltjolt
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    Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
    Kelly's more talented than Keenum, we'll never know until he gets to play in live games shrugs.

    If he can be good or not, but he did play pretty well in preseason, lot of NFL people raved about him.
    No he isn't right now. He may develop to be better than Keenum but he isn't right now. sounds like you're putting a lot of faith in somebody who look good in preseason against second and third stringers but hey I guess that's what you got to go on

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  • Mile High Salute
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    Originally posted by MamaMia View Post
    that.. or he'll throw a few picks and shrug like he's annoyed to be there
    Considering we only have four interceptions in six games and are 20th in the league in this category, that doesn’t seem very likely...Meanwhile, Rosen has only thrown one interception in his three games as the starter.

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  • LikeABoss5820
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    Lot of players do well in preseason against vanilla defenses...even our scrub backup Geno Smith played well. I think Geno sucks
    Normally i agree but Kelly made alot of NFL level throws but he's still without a doubt more talented than Keenum.

    More mobile, better arm talent, better at fitting balls into tight windows and giving receivers a chance to get it. We'll never know until he gets a chance if he does.

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  • Boltjolt
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    Originally posted by LikeABoss5820 View Post
    Kelly's more talented than Keenum, we'll never know until he gets to play in live games shrugs.

    If he can be good or not, but he did play pretty well in preseason, lot of NFL people raved about him.
    Lot of players do well in preseason against vanilla defenses...even our scrub backup Geno Smith played well. I think Geno sucks

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  • socalorado
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    Originally posted by Gutless Drunk View Post
    "talented"... I think there is no doubt. Better arm strength, more athletic, he received the highest accuracy score in history on that sports science show, etc.

    Have you watched Keenum? Keenum may be the better QB overall based on other factors but he has very little talent. I mean his own coach and GM are reduced to "superlatives" like "gritty" and "moxie" to describe the guy.

    As far as pure QB and arm talent unequivocally Kelly has more. Now what that is worth in the long run..who knows (Jay Cutler)
    And what did Zimmer refer to him as? Something about Horseshoe's. In other words, he's just been lucky.

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  • GoneFishin'
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    Yet he was a 7th round pick. If he were regarded that highly he would of went higher. This is a QB desperate league. Someone at ESPN science labs needs a drug test.
    Keep dreaming about that. But, as a division rival, I say start him!
    And Keenum went undrafted so based on your criteria Kelly is more talented.

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    Chad Kelly? Lol, what, did he have a good preseason game against the 2nd and 3rd string or something? He is more talented than Keenum? Lol, based on what?
    Seriously, you got to be kidding.
    "talented"... I think there is no doubt. Better arm strength, more athletic, he received the highest accuracy score in history on that sports science show, etc.

    Have you watched Keenum? Keenum may be the better QB overall based on other factors but he has very little talent. I mean his own coach and GM are reduced to "superlatives" like "gritty" and "moxie" to describe the guy.

    As far as pure QB and arm talent unequivocally Kelly has more. Now what that is worth in the long run..who knows (Jay Cutler)

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  • LikeABoss5820
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
    Chad Kelly? Lol, what, did he have a good preseason game against the 2nd and 3rd string or something? He is more talented than Keenum? Lol, based on what?
    Seriously, you got to be kidding.
    Kelly's more talented than Keenum, we'll never know until he gets to play in live games shrugs.

    If he can be good or not, but he did play pretty well in preseason, lot of NFL people raved about him.

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  • LikeABoss5820
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    Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
    What QB will be worth taking with our top 5 pick in 2019?
    No one really, maybe Herbert but if we wanted a QB, this last class was the one to take a QB.

    Or just hope Kelly can be that guy.

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