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  • GoneFishin'
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    Originally posted by Agamemnon View Post
    You guys are cracking me up with these Josh Allen tweets. It's clear that the people who only saw what they wanted to see in him as a prospect now only see what they want to see in him as an NFL player. Meanwhile his passer rating is still well below 62.8, his completion percentage is still only a little bit above 50%, and he has nearly twice as many picks as TD passes.
    He's playing better then you give him credit for. He's definitely not a polished drop back passer but he's competing and getting better. I want to see what he looks like in years 3-5.

    Making a case for Josh Allen as the NFL's best rookie quarterback over Baker Mayfield, Lamar Jackson

    "Right now, Baker's playing the best, but I just feel like Josh Allen, he oozes so much potential. Have you seen what he's doing? First off, he's 3-5 as a starter with the Bills. Do you know how bad ... they are not good. They are so far removed from the team they were last year with the things they've done and changed. He has given that team and city hope. He is so good. And he has so much upside. I would rank the rookie quarterbacks in so far as they've performed this year: Baker, Josh Allen, Lamar [Jackson], Sam Darnold, Josh Rosen."
    "They're not all that far apart from one another. They've all struggled to have a high completion percentage. At times they've all struggled to take care of the football. But they've all demonstrated at times the things we liked about them in college and we're seeing it in the NFL."
    "Allen to me is the one who people say is not very accurate. I watched his game because I've got the call on Lions-Bills coming up this week. And there are a lot of dropped passes. There were a couple I watched literally bounce off right between the numbers," Quinn continued. "People are going to knock this guy for his accuracy? Are they watching film and checking out his completion percentage and his adjusted completion percentage? Who's even grading that? Is it some guy who's ever played football? Or is it some guy who's eating popcorn in his parents basement?
    "Either way, I watched him and I feel like he'll continually get better. And as that team gets better around him and he has some help, like a running game. I think he's the guy right now who you can see why the Bills took him No. 7 overall."

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  • TonyR
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    Originally posted by Agamemnon View Post
    You guys are cracking me up with these Josh Allen tweets. It's clear that the people who only saw what they wanted to see in him as a prospect now only see what they want to see in him as an NFL player. Meanwhile his passer rating is still well below 62.8, his completion percentage is still only a little bit above 50%, and he has nearly twice as many picks as TD passes.
    Please don't misinterpret the point of my post. So far Allen sucks. It's just an interesting stat.

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  • Agamemnon
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    You guys are cracking me up with these Josh Allen tweets. It's clear that the people who only saw what they wanted to see in him as a prospect now only see what they want to see in him as an NFL player. Meanwhile his passer rating is still well below 62.8, his completion percentage is still only a little bit above 50%, and he has nearly twice as many picks as TD passes.

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  • GoneFishin'
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Is Mike Vick playing for the Bills? <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshAllenQB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoshAllenQB</a> <a href="https://t.co/Q7Q6L052eb">pic.twitter.com/Q7Q6L052eb</a></p>&mdash; The Checkdown (@thecheckdown) <a href="https://twitter.com/thecheckdown/status/1072532991002456064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> QB Josh Allen has more rushing yards in the last 2 weeks than he had in his entire senior year at Wyoming.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> WR Robert Foster has more receiving yards over his last 9 games than he had in his 4-year career at Alabama.</p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1072268677410631680?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Michael Vick had one of his rushing records broken ... by Josh Allen �� <a href="https://t.co/CyQf8AilGX">pic.twitter.com/CyQf8AilGX</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1072159863504101376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baker Mayfield has thrown more touchdowns (11) in the last 5 games under Freddie Kitchens than fellow rookies Josh Rosen (10 games) and Josh Allen (9 games) have all season. Darnold has 12. <br><br>Mayfield&#39;s stats during the stretch: <br>73.2 completion %<br>281.2 yards per game<br>11 TD<br>4 INT</p>&mdash; Brent Sobleski (@brentsobleski) <a href="https://twitter.com/brentsobleski/status/1072131862481506305?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/JoshAllenQB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoshAllenQB</a> left it ALL out on the field in a losing effort. <br><br>His Week 14 highlights. ���� <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBills </a> <a href="https://t.co/PBftWVIC5m">pic.twitter.com/PBftWVIC5m</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1072219898611302400?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yesterday&#39;s loss was Josh Allen&#39;s fault. He has to stop hitting WRs/TEs in the hands and must play better on special teams. Period. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a></p>&mdash; WaltPatulski (@walterpatulski) <a href="https://twitter.com/walterpatulski/status/1072144897556299776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 10, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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  • TonyR
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB rushing yards:<br><br>Josh Allen: 490 total yards<br>Designed runs: 89<br>Scrambles: 401<br><br>Lamar Jackson: 469 total yards<br>Designed runs: 418<br>Scrambles: 51</p>&mdash; Steve Palazzolo (@PFF_Steve) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Steve/status/1072492471559577601?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 11, 2018</a></blockquote>
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  • GoneFishin'
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    All 5 1st rounders are now the team starters...

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joe Flacco is expected to be active but not start, which means he&#39;s been benched for Lamar Jackson. The injury was the initial reason, but if Flacco is now healthy enough to play and is still not the starter, the Ravens are ready to move on.</p>&mdash; Michael David Smith (@MichaelDavSmith) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith/status/1071776331673821184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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  • CEH
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    Originally posted by GoneFishin' View Post
    Maaan, after I saw his stat line and a couple of clips I had to watch the game on GamePass. I just fast forwarded when the Dolphins had the ball. He was ridiculous. The arm, the athleticism, the play making ability, the competitive spirit...he did it all. His style of play makes me think of Elway. Like you said he just needs to get more consistent in the passing game. I think he's still going to have a lot of ups and downs but he's already showing he's better than his critics said he'd be. Hopefully all the rookie QBs in this years draft can stay healthy and play good football. Sucks we didn't get one but the more good QBs in the league the better the games will be.
    He looked good last Sunday

    One of his INT was an end of the half Hail Mary after he moved the team from their own 10 to Mia 45 in like 30 seconds

    His 2nd TD was a 30 yard lazer down the seam that split 2 defenders.
    Jones drop a perfect backshoulder lthrow that would have been a 1st down at the MIA 5 with 0:54 left in the game down by 4

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  • Agamemnon
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    Originally posted by GoneFishin' View Post
    Maaan, after I saw his stat line and a couple of clips I had to watch the game on GamePass. I just fast forwarded when the Dolphins had the ball. He was ridiculous. The arm, the athleticism, the play making ability, the competitive spirit...he did it all. His style of play makes me think of Elway. Like you said he just needs to get more consistent in the passing game. I think he's still going to have a lot of ups and downs but he's already showing he's better than his critics said he'd be. Hopefully all the rookie QBs in this years draft can stay healthy and play good football. Sucks we didn't get one but the more good QBs in the league the better the games will be.
    How so? He still hasn't had a single game where he's looked like an NFL caliber passer.

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  • GoneFishin'
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    Originally posted by CEH View Post
    Against Miami last week, Allen scrambled for a 5 yard TD only to be called back for holding. 2 and goal from the 15 he scrambles right , defender in his face and fires a TD strike to Zay Jones in the back of the end zone. 30 yard pass in total with a defender in his face nearing the out of bounds. Mahoomes did something similar against SF .

    He's still inconsistent with the easier passes. Get those under control and he has big play ability like Big Be only he can run. And hes throwing to guys like Imac.
    Maaan, after I saw his stat line and a couple of clips I had to watch the game on GamePass. I just fast forwarded when the Dolphins had the ball. He was ridiculous. The arm, the athleticism, the play making ability, the competitive spirit...he did it all. His style of play makes me think of Elway. Like you said he just needs to get more consistent in the passing game. I think he's still going to have a lot of ups and downs but he's already showing he's better than his critics said he'd be. Hopefully all the rookie QBs in this years draft can stay healthy and play good football. Sucks we didn't get one but the more good QBs in the league the better the games will be.

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  • CEH
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    Originally posted by GoneFishin' View Post
    Looking forward to this one....

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Allen vs. Sam Darnold tomorrow. Really looking forward to that matchup. First time we’ve seen Darnold in awhile and Allen has progressed nicely since returning from injury.</p>&mdash; Jordan Reid (@JReidNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JReidNFL/status/1071563350289584128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
    Against Miami last week, Allen scrambled for a 5 yard TD only to be called back for holding. 2 and goal from the 15 he scrambles right , defender in his face and fires a TD strike to Zay Jones in the back of the end zone. 30 yard pass in total with a defender in his face nearing the out of bounds. Mahoomes did something similar against SF .

    He's still inconsistent with the easier passes. Get those under control and he has big play ability like Big Be only he can run. And hes throwing to guys like Imac.

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  • IndelibleScribe
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    Originally posted by GoneFishin' View Post
    I've tried to youtube scout Stidham but everything I see is just boring (guessing because of the Auburn offense). I feel like I don't know who he is as a QB. Were there any games or moments he had that really impressed you?
    This year? The fact that he was functional and able to hold up for the whole season.
    Auburn was bad this year. Malzahn took over the offense again and they didn't have a running game so the style did not fit Stidham.

    Last year he was very good, poised, made big plays, played within the framework of the offense and allowed Johnson to open up things for him in the passing game and even sometimes as a runner.

    It's very similar to how Khalil Tate cratered this year under Mazzone until Sumlin forced Mazzone to allow Tate to be himself and run.

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  • GoneFishin'
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    Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
    Stidham and Lock are both really good. They like most young QB's will need the right team and right coach who will mold them.

    Physically, they are what you want in a QB and mentally they have the aptitude to progress where you need them to be in the NFL.
    I've tried to youtube scout Stidham but everything I see is just boring (guessing because of the Auburn offense). I feel like I don't know who he is as a QB. Were there any games or moments he had that really impressed you?

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  • IndelibleScribe
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    Originally posted by BroncoInferno View Post
    Stidham and Lock are fools gold. I don't know enough about the others to comment, but those are two to avoid IMO. A lot of talent but neither were consistent performers. Well, that's not exactly true with Stidham--he was consistently mediocre. I've never gotten it with him. I mean, just look at the numbers. As nondescript as you can get.
    Stidham and Lock are both really good. They like most young QB's will need the right team and right coach who will mold them.

    Physically, they are what you want in a QB and mentally they have the aptitude to progress where you need them to be in the NFL.

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  • IndelibleScribe
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    If Stidham had not suffered through the down year, he's in the mix to go #1 OA.

    The top 4 QB's and where they are selected will come down to preference, just like last season.

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  • GoneFishin'
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    Looking forward to this one....

    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Josh Allen vs. Sam Darnold tomorrow. Really looking forward to that matchup. First time we’ve seen Darnold in awhile and Allen has progressed nicely since returning from injury.</p>&mdash; Jordan Reid (@JReidNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/JReidNFL/status/1071563350289584128?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 9, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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