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  • Originally posted by barryr View Post
    No, they aren't otherwise we wouldn't keep hearing how even the top perceived QB prospects still need to work on their foot work. Or how to hold the ball to avoid fumbles. Those things seem like basic stuff to me.
    The QB's are fine, NFL coaches don't want to do any work other than plug and play.
    It's the same thing with OL.

    College football is not played primarily under center anymore, neither is HS football.
    They stretch the defense and play as fast as possible.
    This is no different than small ball in the NBA came to be and teams were reluctant at first or eliminating mid range jumpers in favor of 3's.

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    • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
      The QB's are fine, NFL coaches don't want to do any work other than plug and play.
      It's the same thing with OL.

      College football is not played primarily under center anymore, neither is HS football.
      They stretch the defense and play as fast as possible.
      This is no different than small ball in the NBA came to be and teams were reluctant at first or eliminating mid range jumpers in favor of 3's.
      But nfl is primarily played from under center. That’s not going to change.

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      • Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
        But nfl is primarily played from under center. That’s not going to change.
        It's already started. Eagles ran RPO with Foles, Titans are putting Mariota in a college RPO offense, teams are going to college campuses to study offensive schemes and etc.

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        • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
          I thought with his physical tools and some NFL coaching he'd be a good QB.

          Did not realize his aloof nature was legit.



          They are preparing them just fine, the game has changed, the NFL is slow in adapting to it.
          Gruden's QB camp scared me away from him. Osweiler too.

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          • Originally posted by SonOfLe-loLang View Post
            Gruden's QB camp scared me away from him. Osweiler too.
            I was perplexed by his QB camp but I should have been scared.

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            • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
              I was perplexed by his QB camp but I should have been scared.
              I remember being puzzled why he was so frazzled by Gruden's QB rush. Like seriously... Jon Gruden was "rushing" him... and it bothered him to the point where he became completely inaccurate.

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              • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
                It's already started. Eagles ran RPO with Foles, Titans are putting Mariota in a college RPO offense, teams are going to college campuses to study offensive schemes and etc.
                A couple teams are utilizing some RPO plays into there offense, but that doesn’t mean that they are going to an RPO offense.

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                • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Two massive human beings for ND Pro Day. Mike McGlinchey and Quenton Nelson. It should be illegal to be this big <a href="https://t.co/r98B0V1G2L">pic.twitter.com/r98B0V1G2L</a></p>&mdash; Eli Gehn (@EliGehnWNDU) <a href="https://twitter.com/EliGehnWNDU/status/976864253314519040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                  • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Quenton Nelson is the definition of a &quot;can&#39;t miss prospect&quot;. His film is dominant and he looks clean in pro day drills. Easily an immediate starter for whichever team that drafts him.</p>&mdash; J.R. (@JReidDraftScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/JReidDraftScout/status/976870078728851457?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Indianapolis <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Colts?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Colts</a> GM Chris Ballard in attendance. Watching the linemen closely. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Notre Dame</a> <a href="https://t.co/mRNUalvgh6">pic.twitter.com/mRNUalvgh6</a></p>&mdash; Matt Randall (@mattrandall_) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattrandall_/status/976869441085505545?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Taking some clips of Quenton Nelson in blocking drills during ND pro day. The look in his eyes while blocking is terrifying. Dude is in kill mode.</p>&mdash; David McKinney (@BGI_DMcKinney) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_DMcKinney/status/976868952184848385?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Time for the real studs pro day <a href="https://t.co/2Au3tJ9xS3">pic.twitter.com/2Au3tJ9xS3</a></p>&mdash; Talkin&#39; Irish (@Talking_ND) <a href="https://twitter.com/Talking_ND/status/976834460548247552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                    • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
                      It's already started. Eagles ran RPO with Foles, Titans are putting Mariota in a college RPO offense, teams are going to college campuses to study offensive schemes and etc.
                      The eagles ran something like 5 RPO plays in the Superbowl. The problem with gimmicky college offenses is the talent gap on teams that don't exist in the NFL. Defenses are too fast, and powerful, and spend to much time in film study, to be spread out and exhausted. Chip Kelly showed us the college offense fails at the pro level.
                      Last edited by Broncoandrew; 03-22-2018, 05:37 PM.

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                      • <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Jets worked out <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UCLA?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#UCLA</a> QB Josh Rosen through a torrential downpour this morning here in LA.</p>&mdash; Bruce Feldman (@BruceFeldmanCFB) <a href="https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/976872908948754433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script><blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Some of the notable NFL coaches I’ve seen so far at Ohio State pro day: Cincinnati <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals </a> head coach Marvin Lewis, Minnesota <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vikings?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vikings </a> head coach Mike Zimmer and Pittsburgh <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steele rs</a> head coach Mike Tomlin.</p>&mdash; Garrett Stepien (@GarrettStepien) <a href="https://twitter.com/GarrettStepien/status/976852121885794304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 22, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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                          Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
                          The QB's are fine, NFL coaches don't want to do any work other than plug and play.
                          It's the same thing with OL.

                          College football is not played primarily under center anymore, neither is HS football.
                          They stretch the defense and play as fast as possible.
                          This is no different than small ball in the NBA came to be and teams were reluctant at first or eliminating mid range jumpers in favor of 3's.
                          Sorry, but if a Tebow can be in college for 4 years with a supposed offensive genius in Urban Meter and come out of that and still not know basic footwork to throw a football, I don't consider that great coaching. And this is the norm it seems.

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                          • Originally posted by barryr View Post
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                            Sorry, but if a Tebow can be in college for 4 years with a supposed offensive genius in Urban Meter and come out of that and still not know basic footwork to throw a football, I don't consider that great coaching. And this is the norm it seems.
                            Tebow is slow, the entire offense waa loaded top to bottom and crafted to fit Tebow in every way.
                            Meyer waa so used to Tebow he couldn't adjust at Florida afterward.

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                            • Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
                              But nfl is primarily played from under center.
                              Right...

                              https://www.sharpfootballstats.com/s...ter--off-.html

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                              • Originally posted by IndelibleScribe View Post
                                Tebow is slow, the entire offense waa loaded top to bottom and crafted to fit Tebow in every way.
                                Meyer waa so used to Tebow he couldn't adjust at Florida afterward.
                                So name all the great QB's Meyer, this supposed offensive mastermind, is helping to bring to the NFL Alex Smith is the best there is and that's it and I don't know how great I'd call him. Like I said, there is not great coaching in college happening in terms of QB's being ready for the NFL, so it's not just coaches failing in the NFL about QB play.

                                Even Darnold, the perceived top pick, analysis of him is needing more work on his footwork. Are you kidding me?

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