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  • Finger Roll
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    Love sport science. Robinson caused Romo to throw a 39mph change up.

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  • Gutless Drunk
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    Sport Science: Trevathan's Interception

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  • Ol#7
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    Zona, your wrong. You are looking at the wrong parts of that video. Pay attention to where the TE is when Romo starts his throwing motion, he is breaking open and has Trevathon beat. Now go to post #49 by Gutless drunk where Trev is flying like Superman to make the INT, the ball is clearly behind the TE.

    Mannings pass was risky. It worked because DT was tracking the ball and the defender wasnt, but he threw it to the defender and DT made the play. Decker doesnt make that play on the ball. Only point I am making by using that example is that QB's make those kind of throws all the time. Its the anticipation that seperates the good/great ones.

    Not really sure why we are arguing this, I dont think Romo should be the goat for the throw, it was one of the few times our Defense stepped up. All the guys on the field are getting paid.

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  • ZONA
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    Originally posted by Ol#7 View Post
    It was Wolfe coming up the middle that forced that. If he can step into the throw its a completion. NFL QB's throw into tighter windows all the time. Heck Mannings completion to DT on the game tying drive was a far more dangerous throw. Having looked at the gif 4 million times I am now sure Romo saw him breaking open while going through his progressions and just couldnt step into the throw. Good job Wolfe and Robinson for collapsing the pocket causing Romo to step up into the rush.
    No it's not an automatic completion if he steps into the throw. Watch it again, slowly this time. The TE starts to sit in the gap somewhat. The throw is actually a tad in front of the TE, the pass is pretty darn well placed. It's not behind the TE or anything like that. It's true there are obviously completions in such a tight window but that doesn't make them any less risky. With coverage that tight, you always run the risk of the defender making a play. The smart play would have been to hit the WIDE open RB. And I don't think Mannings throw to Thomas was more risky. That was a sideline pass and the defender wasn't quite in position to respond. Not to mention Thomas could go up and make a play at it. A crossing route over the middle with tight coverage is about as risky as a pass can get. Whitten really couldn't go up to make a play since he's running sideways and his moment is taking him that way and the pass was mid height. He basically has to let the ball come to him. It's not a dig route or something where he's coming back to the ball.

    But all of that is nit picky. Bottom line is, the coverage was pretty tight on the TE while the RB was completely wide open. You throw the least risky pass and to the guy who is the most wide open and you take the easy play, especially in those circumstances, late in the game, game is tied, deep in your own territory.

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  • Ol#7
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    It was Wolfe coming up the middle that forced that. If he can step into the throw its a completion. NFL QB's throw into tighter windows all the time. Heck Mannings completion to DT on the game tying drive was a far more dangerous throw. Having looked at the gif 4 million times I am now sure Romo saw him breaking open while going through his progressions and just couldnt step into the throw. Good job Wolfe and Robinson for collapsing the pocket causing Romo to step up into the rush.

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  • ZONA
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    I think we're getting carried away here. It was a nice rush, I wouldn't call him a hero. Bad throw by Romo. He should have went to the easy wide open guy, which was the RB. Trev had good coverage and it was a risky pass.

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  • Rausch 2.0
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    Originally posted by maven View Post
    It's decision making like this as to why Romo is the butt of jokes for failure. The dump off was there.
    When the pressure is on he "pushes" and forgets what got him there...

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  • maven
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    It's decision making like this as to why Romo is the butt of jokes for failure. The dump off was there.

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  • TonyR
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    Originally posted by R8R H8R View Post
    Yes, I agree. That DT is Wolfe, I beleive. He gets by the C (?) and then gets picked up by another guy. However, if you look closely, the 2nd guy blocking Wolfe prevents Romo from really stepping into his throw, and probably blocked his vision a bit.
    This from the DP:

    On second down, defensive end Derek Wolfe pressured Romo, and Trevathan noticed Wolfe's hands were up, and Romo was still trying to squeeze a pass to Gavin Escobar on a crossing route. Travathan dove, stretched out and grabbed the ball before it hit Escobar's hands.
    http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci...ng-int-cowboys

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  • errand
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  • broncogary
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    Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
    I'm really busy at work and also I think I have brain damage.

    In my defense, CJ Davis was a Bronco at one time.
    Brain damage? You may have a case against the NFL.

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  • R8R H8R
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    Originally posted by misturanderson View Post
    After looking at it again, I would say that The DT coming up the middle and being double teamed had a significantly bigger effect on the pass than Robinson, but I see what he's saying about the LT's foot tripping up Romo slightly.
    Yes, I agree. That DT is Wolfe, I beleive. He gets by the C (?) and then gets picked up by another guy. However, if you look closely, the 2nd guy blocking Wolfe prevents Romo from really stepping into his throw, and probably blocked his vision a bit.

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  • Requiem
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    Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
    I'm really busy at work and also I think I have brain damage.
    Think? You do.

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  • Bronco Yoda
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    Originally posted by s0phr0syne View Post
    Success has many fathers...
    touche!

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  • Kaylore
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    Originally posted by SonOfLe-loLang View Post
    CJ Davis? Whats goin on with you today! haha
    I'm really busy at work and also I think I have brain damage.

    In my defense, CJ Davis was a Bronco at one time.

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