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  • Dez VS Demaryius: Year 4

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...iver-in-year-4

    who do you like??

  • #2
    The white guy

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    • #3
      Well I doubt you will see anybody take Dez on a Broncos forum but honestly, I think Thomas does give you more.

      First off, pure size. Thomas has Dez by 2 inches and probably 15 pounds. Longer arms, bigger hands. Thomas is just as fast as Dez, with maybe even better top end speed. Thomas also IMO, is better with YAC. And then there is the character thing.

      I think any GM worth his salt would take Thomas over Dez at this stage.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ZONA View Post
        Thomas is just as fast as Dez, with maybe even better top end speed.
        Thomas ran between 4.36-4.38...for someone that's 6'3 230...that's beast status. Bryant ran a 4.52 on pro day. But Bryant has great football speed.

        Thomas has shorter arms by 1 inch, but he also has hands at 10.5 inches compared to dez 9.75...

        At worst, even if you say they are even...DT's character kills Dez. Matter of fact, DT's character trait is extremely rare for a WR of his talent.

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        • #5
          Demaryius Thomas is larger, faster, stronger, and has demonstrably better character (Parrish Cox rape trial issues not withstanding). He also has made one of the all-time clutch overtime plays in beating the Steelers in last year's playoffs.

          Dez Bryant has better career stats after 3 years, but that's a bit deceptive. They both had nearly identical seasons in 2012 statistically, and Thomas's 2010 and 2011 stats were obviously affected by having Orton and Tebow as his quarterbacks, while Bryant was working with a pro bowl quarterback and gunslinger in Tony Romo all 3 years.

          I honestly believe that 9 out of 10 general managers would select Demaryius Thomas over Dez Bryant right now if given the choice.

          Career Stats
          Thomas: 148 catches for 2268 yards (15.3 ypr), 16 touchdowns
          Bryant: 200 catches for 2871 yards (14.4 ypr), 27 touchdowns

          2012 stats
          Thomas: 94 catches for 1434 yards (15.3 ypr), 10 touchdowns
          Bryant: 92 catches for 1382 yards (15.0 ypr), 12 touchdowns
          Last edited by BowlenBall; 06-04-2013, 03:04 AM.

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          • #6
            Also, if quarterbacks are judged by their record, shouldn't players at other positions be as well?

            Thomas's career record: 25-23, two division titles
            Bryant's career record: 22-26, no playoff appearances

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            • #7
              I can see how a majority of GMs might think Dez is a little better WR at this point but I would bet 31 of the 32 teams would take Thomas over him. Dallas being the lone exception and I am not sure about that.

              Jerry Jones actually had to put Dez on a curfew and have someone actually babysit him. Dez might have matured over the last year but this was a real issue just two years ago.

              Thomas got caught up with Cox in the rape scandal, but Thomas was never accused of raping her, at most he covered for him, but since then he has been a model citizen and a great teammate.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BowlenBall View Post
                Also, if quarterbacks are judged by their record, shouldn't players at other positions be as well?

                Thomas's career record: 25-23, two division titles
                Bryant's career record: 22-26, no playoff appearances
                plus an 80 yard game winning TD in the playoffs.

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                • #9
                  One guy requires a full time babysitting service to keep him out of legal trouble. The other does not (at least for now).

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                  • #10
                    They're close enough talent-wise that it's a no-brainer to pick the non-headcase

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                    • #11
                      I think the article tried to downplay it, but when it touched on how Thomas was coming on with Tebow as QB even.... considering how we barely threw the ball he was still producing.. i think he had the most yards and catches in the month of December if i remember right (That is including megatron)


                      But then it trys to also take away from him by saying he has Manning.... well it doesnt take a rocket scientist to realize a good QB will give his star WR the opportunity to make plays... (Rice and Montana, Brady and Moss, Manning and Harrison, Irving and Aikmen, Farve and Sharpe, Elway and Smith/Sharpe)... that doesnt mean the WR wasnt good or it was all the QB.. its a sybiotic relationship a QB is only as good as his WR meaning if he cant catch or run routes it doesnt matter and the WR is only as good as his QB that can get him the ball.



                      Considering how Thomas was hurt most of his 1st two years their stats are still very similar, I firmly believe Thomas is still just scratching the surface considering he is gettting healthy and probably still not 100% from his achilles a year ago... and still learning the art of route running, i dont think we have seen his best and should only get better with the threat of Welker and hopefully a good running game.

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                      • #12
                        With his upside you have to go with Thomas

                        Also consider Dez's maturity issues and it is a no brainer IMO

                        Bryant is very good though

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Dr. Broncenstein View Post
                          One guy requires a full time babysitting service to keep him out of legal trouble. The other does not (at least for now).
                          Yeah, though DT may have been an accessory to a rape.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
                            Shenanigans. Decker wanted it.
                            Always on count on Rev to promote shower luving......

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                            • #15
                              Without the character concerns, I'd probably take Dez. Since there are concerns, I'd take Thomas.

                              I wouldn't take either over Julio. (Sorry, I had to!)

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