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  • #46
    Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
    I never got this either. I have had a virus problem exactly once in the last seven years.

    Basically if you have problems with viruses or, heaven forbid, you are paying for virus protection, you are obviously a computer imbecile and a Mac is what you need because they are made imbecile proof.
    Now there is a hell of a reason to opt for a PC. You prefer a machine that is more complex to run because you are smart enough to deal with the unnecessary complexities. Screw the simple elegance of a Mac I an smart enough to learn all the tricks and work arounds needed to use my PC successfully and my investment in time saves me a couple of hundred dollars over three years.

    With that logic driving a Ford Escort is wiser than driving a Porsche 911 because both cars will get you there and the Ford is cheaper.
    Last edited by baja; 12-28-2012, 10:19 AM.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Requiem View Post
      Not even remotely true at all. The only people who don't realize how you can upgrade a Mac are the people who don't know anything about computers other than how to boot them up and surf the web. It takes a little "smarts" to do it, but it easily can be done. How many people with PCs do you know that are bossing 32GB of RAM in their system. Probably none.
      Well... I'll tell you this, 3 months ago I got my self an Asus laptop with windows 7. It freaking rocks!!! I was thinking about getting the new Macbook Pro with retina display, but what threw me off was that it didn't have an integrated CD/DVD drive. The upgraded version went for around $3500. My upgraded PC laptop upgraded version went for $1200. It has 2.2 Core i7, 32 GB ram, 1TB Hard drive, an NVIDIA 2GB graphic card.

      I am a graphic designer, so the ATI graphic card that the Macbook has would have been preferred, but for the money deferential I ain't complaining. Windows 7 runs like a charm. Since I got a Windows phone (they are great by the way, got the Nokia 900), I decided to look into the Windows 8 upgrade. My IT guy told me to hold on a few more months just to make sure it is compatible with all the programs I use. Other than that, I checked it out on a touchscreen laptop and it was cool as hell.

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      • #48
        I bought a macbook pro solely because I wanted to make tunes on my machine. Outside of that I actually feel like the interface is using metaphors that are fast becoming outdated. If I could go back I would have gone with the PC. Don't let the Mac branding bs force you into spending extra cash for equal or less specs and an (imo) inferior os to the live tiles of windows 8. That said, I'd prefer windows 8 on a touchscreen.
        Last edited by Chris; 12-28-2012, 11:03 AM.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Requiem View Post
          Not even remotely true at all. The only people who don't realize how you can upgrade a Mac are the people who don't know anything about computers other than how to boot them up and surf the web. It takes a little "smarts" to do it, but it easily can be done. How many people with PCs do you know that are bossing 32GB of RAM in their system. Probably none.
          I only have 8 gig of ram installed in my desktop but using a 64gig flash drive I mounted I turned on Ready Boost and dedicated 32gig to it so technically I have 40gig of RAM. It helps with read times some. It helps more on my laptop where I have 4 gig installed RAM and use 3Gig of a 4gig Flash drive. I notice it helps more on the laptop.

          I like Kahn's idea of just installing Win7, you can always install an older OS and still be licensed.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Chris View Post
            I bought a macbook pro solely because I wanted to make tunes on my machine. Outside of that I actually feel like the interface is using metaphors that are fast becoming outdated. If I could go back I would have gone with the PC. Don't let the Mac branding bs force you into spending extra cash for equal or less specs and an (imo) inferior os to the live tiles of windows 8. That said, I'd prefer windows 8 on a touchscreen.
            I do think Apple stock is about to serious dump in value.

            There is only one Steve Jobs just like there was only one P. T. Barnum. Apple will flounder for a while. Look at the huge screw up with Apple's map app. That doesn't happen with Jobs in charge.

            Jobs knew what would sell and created those products and an cult following to buy them the minute they came out. In the herd mentality world of today those long lines to buy the latest Apple product made for priceless advertising and drove sales through the roof, course you have to have a really good product to really pull that off and Jobs made sure of that too.

            Now the rest of the companies have caught on and are fully committed to be the company that comes up with the next great "thing" . Jobs had this market all to himself for years but he's gone and his business plan is not unique anymore.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by broncosteven View Post
              I only have 8 gig of ram installed in my desktop but using a 64gig flash drive I mounted I turned on Ready Boost and dedicated 32gig to it so technically I have 40gig of RAM. It helps with read times some. It helps more on my laptop where I have 4 gig installed RAM and use 3Gig of a 4gig Flash drive. I notice it helps more on the laptop.

              I like Kahn's idea of just installing Win7, you can always install an older OS and still be licensed.
              Sure, you can install an older operating system. If I built a PC, I'd probably install XP on it for ****s and giggles because I liked it the most. I still didn't like 7, nor do I like 8. My point was that Macs are expandable. It is a myth that they aren't. Time will tell to see how good my Mac is in the long run and if I have any big problems. I've owned numerous Windows laptops (have one with 7 actually) and they have all eventually bit the dust. And it wasn't because I was doing something wrong to kill the system. These were all factory made ones. I have never had a problem with a desktop I created myself.

              To each their own. I happen to use both Windows/MacOS on a daily basis. There are things I like and dislike about both.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
                I never got this either. I have had a virus problem exactly once in the last seven years.

                Basically if you have problems with viruses or, heaven forbid, you are paying for virus protection, you are obviously a computer imbecile and a Mac is what you need because they are made imbecile proof.
                The only time you get a virus is if you go out looking for one. I have one friend who had a couple viruses a year until he stopped downloading porn. He finally swore off Internets porn and has had one since. The other one I encountered was from a client who installed Freeware from an untrusted source that was infected.

                If you use common sense on the internet and keep your anti-virus products updated and don't share USB drives without scanning them right away you will be fine.

                I have been using the Free version of AVG Anti-virus and Malware Bytes and not looking for Gene Naked on Porn sites. AVG saves me over $70 bucks now, I am over the limit on Mcafee and Norton licenses at the house.

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                • #53
                  You should download CCleaner. It is kid tested, Gene Kranz approved.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Requiem View Post
                    Sure, you can install an older operating system. If I built a PC, I'd probably install XP on it for ****s and giggles because I liked it the most. I still didn't like 7, nor do I like 8. My point was that Macs are expandable. It is a myth that they aren't. Time will tell to see how good my Mac is in the long run and if I have any big problems. I've owned numerous Windows laptops (have one with 7 actually) and they have all eventually bit the dust. And it wasn't because I was doing something wrong to kill the system. These were all factory made ones. I have never had a problem with a desktop I created myself.

                    To each their own. I happen to use both Windows/MacOS on a daily basis. There are things I like and dislike about both.
                    Can you buy a new battery for a Mac Laptop? I heard that you couldn't.

                    I sure wish I could throw in a RAM card to expand the RAM on my iPhone, I had a 64gig card in my ancient AT&T Tilt. Now I am stuck with 16G on the 4S.

                    Bought my daughter a Chinese knock off Android based Tablet, it has a couple USB ports, SD slot, 100 base NIC, Wireless with 4G internal We can add a couple of USB flash drives and she has endless storage. Can the new iPads do that now?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
                      I never got this either. I have had a virus problem exactly once in the last seven years.

                      Basically if you have problems with viruses or, heaven forbid, you are paying for virus protection, you are obviously a computer imbecile and a Mac is what you need because they are made imbecile proof.
                      Attention old people who don't know ****: macs can get viruses too, they are just targeted much less frequently

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by broncosteven View Post
                        Can you buy a new battery for a Mac Laptop? I heard that you couldn't.
                        Pretty sure you can. If not, it is replaceable with the Apple Care warranty. I ain't Steve Jobs man, I ain't got time for dat!

                        I sure wish I could throw in a RAM card to expand the RAM on my iPhone, I had a 64gig card in my ancient AT&T Tilt. Now I am stuck with 16G on the 4S.

                        Bought my daughter a Chinese knock off Android based Tablet, it has a couple USB ports, SD slot, 100 base NIC, Wireless with 4G internal We can add a couple of USB flash drives and she has endless storage. Can the new iPads do that now?
                        Can you have a USB flash drive with an iPad? In a round about way, yes. With an adapter. Not sure if the new ones got USB ports. I would never get an iPad. I have enough problems with my MaxiPads.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Kaylore View Post
                          Macs are expensive and impossible to improve. Get a pc with windows 7.
                          No, they keep finding ways to improve them.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by mhgaffney View Post
                            No, they keep finding ways to improve them.
                            $40 adapters at a time

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                            • #59
                              The Applecare warranty is the real deal.

                              My Mac got toasted during a thunderstorm -- but luckily was still on warranty. They replaced my mother board free of charge.

                              Don't shy away from getting the Applecare to save a few bucks. That's penny wize and pound foolish.

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                              • #60
                                Didn't read the whole thread, but I use a PC and just got the new windows 8 and I like it, but that said, my wife has a mac book pro and if I had the choice of the two I would go with the Mac. So much more user friendly and the ability to have all my devices syncing would be so nice.

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