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    You wanna bring back the Orange Crush? Here it is:
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    This guy plus Von Miller? Fuggedabout it.

    I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me. Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

    I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

    Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.

  • #2
    he is good but plays a little out of control sometimes. gets a good amount of stupid penalties as well. if he can avoid being taunted into committing those stupid penalties and can channel his aggression a little better he can be a perennial pro bowler MLB in the mold of a Ray Lewis which would be awesome in Denver.

    his addition would undoubtedly make DJ the weak link in the LB corps.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BroncoMan4ever View Post
        he is good but plays a little out of control sometimes. gets a good amount of stupid penalties as well. if he can avoid being taunted into committing those stupid penalties and can channel his aggression a little better he can be a perennial pro bowler MLB in the mold of a Ray Lewis which would be awesome in Denver.

        his addition would undoubtedly make DJ the weak link in the LB corps.
        That's not a bad weak link. DJ still has speed and could play OLB.

        We'd potentially have the best run defense in the league within 2 years after the draft if Vontaze even became a solid starter type. He looks like a pure run defender with a nasty streak.

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        • #5
          The Meanest Man in College Football:

          “For every great story you have about Vontaze,” says Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck, “another guy on another team will say he has one better.”

          “I know one thing,” says Oregon State coach Mike Riley. “Somebody is taking a blow every play (Burfict is) on the field.”


          From near academic casualty to a player former USC coach Pete Carroll whined about upon losing the recruiting battle to Arizona State, Burfict now is arguably the most gifted—and complicated—player in the game.



          "...the play against Washington in 2009, when Burfict shot the gap on a fly sweep, knocked the guard off his feet and made the tackle. During film study, coaches replayed the moment over and over in sheer disbelief.



          “I swear to God, he decleated a 325-pound guy,” Moos says. “You wouldn’t believe it if it wasn’t on film.”


          Or the play last year against Oregon, a game many NFL scouts say defines Burfict’s talent—which lies in his ability to chase and pursue from one side of the play to the other without giving up ground or explosive power—because the Ducks run read option plays where the quarterback reads the defensive tackle and directs the flow of the play away from his pursuit.


          Burfict shot the gap, knocking Oregon guard Carson York into the backfield and forcing Ducks quarterback Darron Thomas to commit to handing off to tailback LaMichael James. Burfict then tackled both York and James—460-plus pounds of player—at the same time for a 5-yard loss.

          “You’re thinking he can’t do that,” former Oregon center Jordan Holmes says, “and then he does it, and you’re left thinking, Holy cow.”




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          This guy idolizes Dick Butkus and Ray Lewis. He's 6'3" 250 and hits like a ton of bricks. I don't think I have seen another player in college hit like this guy. There is so much power in his lean. He's going to make running backs pay in the NFL.
          Last edited by epicSocialism4tw; 10-06-2011, 11:28 PM.

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          • #6
            if we get him, it'd be a shame if Dawkins isnt around anymore - people would look back in awe that those two guys once played on the same team.

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            • #7
              Seems like a long time since there was a legit #1 MLB coming out.
              I'd love this kind of a pick.

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              • #8
                I read he might make a run at the Heisman.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BroncoMan4ever View Post
                  he is good but plays a little out of control sometimes. gets a good amount of stupid penalties as well. if he can avoid being taunted into committing those stupid penalties and can channel his aggression a little better he can be a perennial pro bowler MLB in the mold of a Ray Lewis
                  A little?? ASU beats Stanford last year if Vontaze keeps his cool. He's a massive head case.

                  However, he and Miller on the same team might literally kill a qb someday.
                  Last edited by Tyrant; 10-06-2011, 11:50 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tyrant View Post
                    A little?? ASU beats Stanford last year if Vontaze keeps his cool. He's a massive head case.

                    However, he and Miller on the same time might literally kill a qb someday.
                    I like that he's a bit of a head case. He plays like he's furious. He's like the real Bobby Bouchet.

                    Troy Polamalu was criticized in that exact same way at USC. Polamalu too is a really soft spoken guy who flips a switch and becomes the most violent player on the field between the whistles. This guy has that Polamalu mentality in the body of a freak MLB.

                    I havent been keeping up with draft scouting up to this point, but I can't imagine that he's much lower than 2 or 3 on most people's boards.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Borks147 View Post
                      if we get him, it'd be a shame if Dawkins isnt around anymore - people would look back in awe that those two guys once played on the same team.
                      I'd love to see he and Dawkins flying at the LOS, just blowing people up.

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                      • #12
                        Nate Irving can't be happy about this.

                        On a side note. Tampa Bay has their 3rd round MLB starting for them. While I like Mays for his hits, he's not a long-term solution.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by epicSocialism4tw View Post
                          I'd love to see he and Dawkins flying at the LOS, just blowing people up.
                          Better than watching some receiver blow right by Dawkins.

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                          • #14
                            What is more important to a run defense? A great MLB or a great NT/DT. Some of the best run defense in the league feature a great MLB.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by epicSocialism4tw View Post
                              You wanna bring back the Orange Crush? Here it is:
                              <EMBED height=360 type=application/x-shockwave-flash width=640 src=http://www.youtube.com/v/KvcsffTQojI?version=3 allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always">

                              This guy plus Von Miller? Fuggedabout it.

                              I'm not sure where he's projected in the draft, but he looks like the second-best prospect of 2012 to me.
                              Watch him take excellent angles to the ball and just blow people up. This is a pure MLB who savors the nasty grit in the wash on rushing plays. He'll get in the gap and blow up an offensive lineman like he's a wide receiver.

                              I really can't think of another MLB I have seen in recent years who is this much of an old school jaw-buster who plays with this much passion.

                              Now, I dont get much Pac 10 football here and I have only seen him play a few times, so I don't know if he is consistently this good. Maybe some of you guys who catch him weekly can fill us in.

                              He's #11 on Kiper's "Big Board", who has this to say about Burfict:

                              Burfict has great instincts, makes plays sideline to sideline and is far more disciplined than he gets credit for. Has a ton of experience and will draw comparisons to many of the elite middle linebackers.

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