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  • iforgotmypassword
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    and give us Peyton Hillis while you're at it too.

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  • iforgotmypassword
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    The 09 and 10 1st round draft picks are the reason were a bottom feeding team right now. Heres our picks, and the picks picked immidiately after us.

    09 1a. Knowshon Moreno - Brian Orakpo - Malcolm Jenkins - Brian Cushing
    09 1b. Robert Ayers - Jeremy Maclin - Brandon Pettigrew - Alex Mack - Percy Harvin - Michael Oher

    10 1a. Demaryius Thomas -Bryan Bulaga - Dez Bryant
    10 1b. Tim Tebow - Dan Williams - Devin McCourty

    Not to mention Earl Thomas who coulda been ours at 14.

    Theres always gonna be some busts in drafts.... but McDanials killed a great shot at building a very strong core of a football team.

    Give this team Brian Orakpo-Michael Oher-Dez Bryant-Dan Williams-Earl Thomas and you have a young core....

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  • Rolandftw
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    Originally posted by PRBronco View Post
    I see your 2009 and raise you a 2003 http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/...cos/draft/2003
    I guess it just comes down to expectations. They didn't get much from the 2003 draft obviously, although Foster was a decent tackle for a couple seasons.

    But Broncos fans had high hopes that they could really rebuild the defense with 4 first rounders over a two year period of time. Not only did Hoodie Jr, target players that seem to be mediocre at best but he impacted their 2010 draft in losing the #14th pick to Seattle in the process.

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  • WolfpackGuy
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    Originally posted by Rolandftw View Post
    Basically, the 2009 draft is probably the Broncos worst draft ever.
    Yep.

    Two average guys in the first round who probably wouldn't be starting on most teams, and three second round reaches who are no longer with the team.

    Pretty chitty return on 5 picks in the first 64.

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  • PRBronco
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    Originally posted by Rolandftw View Post
    Ayers has a nastiness to him at times that borderlines on stupidity. He's a decent DL, but no where near what the Broncos thought he could be at pick #18 in the draft. Basically, the 2009 draft is probably the Broncos worst draft ever. Hoodie Jr, had a good draft in 2010 though.
    I see your 2009 and raise you a 2003 http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/...cos/draft/2003

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  • PRBronco
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    Originally posted by 24champ View Post
    Goodman can't tackle, dude got dragged around the field.
    I'm not sure he's strong enough to hang on and be dragged tbh.

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  • Rolandftw
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    Ayers has a nastiness to him at times that borderlines on stupidity. He's a decent DL, but no where near what the Broncos thought he could be at pick #18 in the draft. Basically, the 2009 draft is probably the Broncos worst draft ever. Hoodie Jr, had a good draft in 2010 though.

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  • Bob's your Information Minister
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    Robert Ayers, Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder......the beat goes on!

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  • Rolandftw
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    Originally posted by Drek View Post
    Looked pretty good when he had room to work on receptions last night.

    He's got some moves, he just needs the chance to do something with it.
    No one doubts that Moreno is one of the better receiving RB's. That's not his problem. His problem is that he's neither fast nor big enough to be an effective between the tackles HB. It doesn't help him that he plays on one of the worse run blocking lines in the NFL.

    He's a very poor man's Reggie Bush. That can't return punts or kickoffs.

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  • 24champ
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    Goodman can't tackle, dude got dragged around the field.

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  • DHallblows
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    Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
    He means Goodman, the other Miami DB pick up that can't play football.
    It's an understandable mixup

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  • Eldorado
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    Originally posted by TheReverend View Post
    He means Goodman, the other Miami DB pick up that can't play football.
    I'm officially on the 'Goodman sux' bandwagon. That was horrible.

    Correct me if I'm wrong, didn't Ayers play inside some last night?

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  • chrisp
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    Jarvis Moss never started and never really did anything for us at all. Ayers is actually a solid starter and the least of our worries on the d-line.

    I think the problem, however, is that he was picked a little above his level. D-ends and OLBs picked in the first round have to be able to get to the passer. the guy got something like 3 sacks in his best college year!! Guys who get sacks in college don't always get them in the pros, but guys who don't get sacks in college definitely don't get them in the pros.

    But overall I think the guy is fundamentally sound. He gets pressure, I think he's just a step slow to actually get to the QB. He's a solid, run-stuffing d-end, he'll just never, ever have a 10-sack-plus season

    However, if we had drafted the guy in the 2nd or 3rd we'd probably be Ok with his contribution. 4th or below and he'd be a steal. Do NOT compare him with Moss, who history tells us was a bona fide bust.....

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  • broncocalijohn
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    Originally posted by HILife View Post
    it was #12, so we are good.
    If he was #214 pick, then we are good. You just made me feel worse.

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  • HILife
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    Originally posted by broncocalijohn View Post
    Saw him dancing behind the line again. He seems to be really good on 3rd down and he is in a wideout position (or catches one from the backfield). For a #14 pick, I want to see much more. OL doesn't help the situation in many cases.
    it was #12, so we are good.

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