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  • Worse than Watergate: New Revelations from Nixon Tapes

    How bad a president was Richard Nixon?

    On the 40th anniversary of his resignation, a new documentary takes a fresh look at the Nixon tapes to make the case that the already vilified 37th president was not as bad as you may think. ... He was worse.

    "The most interesting thing that the American people aren't aware of is the kind of the dirty tricks he pulled on those good events, the things he would hold up as great achievements," said Peter Kunhardt, the director and producer of "Nixon by Nixon: In His Own Words," which debuts Monday on HBO.

    "When you begin hearing the behind-the-scenes maneuvering to make those great achievements happen, they were as dirty as the Watergate episode," he continued.

    Ken Hughes, the author of a new book about Nixon, "Chasing Shadows," joined Kunhardt for an interview with "Top Line" and said that one of the most shocking recent revelations about Nixon is that he intentionally prolonged the war in Vietnam for political gain.

    "He realized if Saigon fell before Election Day 1972, it would take his chances of a second term down with it," Hughes said. "You can hear him discussing that in his keeping the war going, sending more Americans to fight and some to die; and it's for political reasons."

    The documentary lays out which aides to Nixon were aware they were being recorded and those who were unaware. Among those who were unaware: Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

    "There is I think an extra degree of openness and candor with the people who don't know they are being taped," Hughes said. "Henry Kissinger clearly did not know he was being taped and was very angry about being taped."

    Though Kissinger stayed loyal to Nixon until the end, Kunhardt said, the film demonstrates the "awkward position" that Kissinger navigated in his dealings with the "thin-skinned" president.

    "He was put in this awkward position of having to be kind of a 'yes man,' and at the same time do his hugely important job at the same time," Kunhardt said.

    In one recording featured in the film, Nixon can be heard asking an aide to have Kissinger's phone lines bugged after it's believed the then-secretary of state talked to a reporter without the White House's permission.

    "When you watch Nixon turn on him and let his own suspicions and paranoia question Kissinger and whether they're on the same page, you feel sorry for the guy," Kunhardt said of Kissinger. "You realize that Nixon was all about what he believed in, and if you veered of course, you were kind of left to the side."

    For more about the new revelations of Nixon's dirty dealings, and to find out what question Hughes would ask Nixon today if he could, check out this episode of "Top Line."

    ABC News' Alexandra Dukakis, Tom Thornton, Wayne Boyd, and Gale Marcus contributed to this episode.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/power-pl...180150338.html

  • #2
    I will just watch House of Cards instead.

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    • #3
      Good thing other President since have to be transparent. Oh wait.

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      • #4
        Not to mention Nixon opened the doors to China with poorly negotiated trade deals which destroyed millions of US jobs forever. Nixon gave away the store, lock, stock and barrel. He didn't seem to care what a trade deficit would mean to the American economy. You have to ask yourself whether he was really this naive or was something else going on here. You could say it was the beginning of America exporting job for cheap crap coming back. The rest as they say is history.

        The country was never the same after this Presidency in so many ways.



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        • #5
          Nixon was a life-long slime-bag and snake in the grass. As Truman said, ”Richard Nixon is a no-good lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he’d lie just to keep his hand in…" Or JFK: "He is a filthy, lying son-of-a-bitch, and a very dangerous man.” Or LBJ: ”I may not know much, but I know chicken **** from chicken salad…He’s like a Spanish horse, who runs faster than anyone for the first nine lengths and then turns around and runs backwards. You’ll see — he’ll do something wrong in the end. He always does.” And this , also from LBJ: ”It’s not enough for Nixon to win. He’s going to have to put some people in jail.”

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          • #6
            Let's not forget this

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            • #7
              What could be worse than bugging a couple of buildings? Bugging the entire nation?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Arkie View Post
                What could be worse than bugging a couple of buildings? Bugging the entire nation?
                L0L.

                You say that like Watergate was Tricky Dick's only misdeed.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bronco Yoda View Post
                  Let's not forget this

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                  It's amazing to me how Americans don't give a damn about their own history. They think they just woke up and the world is the same as it's always been. Nope. Sorry. People make decisions, and enact policies, that change your life, and the lives of your children, and the direction of the entire country, economically and otherwise. The problem is when ideology gets involved. This is why the U.S. was designed based on models of empiricism and rationality. That's what the Enlightenment was all about, dumping superstition and relying on reason. Ideology short-circuits empiricism. Ideology says, "It's right because I believe it's right." It has nothing to do with whether or not it works.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah I watched that doc and my god, what a low life pos. Very fascinating stuff.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by NorthernistCaliforneeway7 View Post
                      Yeah I watched that doc and my god, what a low life pos. Very fascinating stuff.
                      The list of Nixon's high crimes and misdemeanors is a long one, but what he did to Cambodia was the most heinous, IMO.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by L.A. BRONCOS FAN View Post
                        The list of Nixon's high crimes and misdemeanors is a long one, but what he did to Cambodia was the most heinous, IMO.
                        Yeah that was ****ing disgusting. He should have been in prison for most of the things he did.

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                        • #13
                          The funny thing is IMO 'Watergate' was nothing. Not compared to all the truly serious **** that happened during that time. It's almost as if Watergate was some sort of political false flag. Am I the only one who may think this?

                          Look over here people and be outraged!!!!

                          Don't look over there at the changed healthcare system... or the disastrous foreign trade agreements... or the new fiat money system... or....

                          ... look at the big bad taping scandel instead.

                          I don't think Americans truly appreciate or understand how fundamentally our country changed around 1970 in every possibly way. I bet Historians will look back at some point and point to this time as the birth of a new nation. JMO anyway...

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
                            It's amazing to me how Americans don't give a damn about their own history. They think they just woke up and the world is the same as it's always been. Nope. Sorry. People make decisions, and enact policies, that change your life, and the lives of your children, and the direction of the entire country, economically and otherwise. The problem is when ideology gets involved. This is why the U.S. was designed based on models of empiricism and rationality. That's what the Enlightenment was all about, dumping superstition and relying on reason. Ideology short-circuits empiricism. Ideology says, "It's right because I believe it's right." It has nothing to do with whether or not it works.
                            They probably don't give a damn because, at some level, they realize the version of history they've been sold by their "elders and betters" is a crock of sh*t.

                            They don't want to have to look at the reality that America is just another European colony established through genocide and slavery.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bronco Yoda View Post
                              The funny thing is IMO 'Watergate' was nothing. Not compared to all the truly serious **** that happened during that time. It's almost as if Watergate was some sort of political false flag. Am I the only one who may think this?

                              Look over here people and be outraged!!!!

                              Don't look over there at the changed healthcare system... or the disastrous foreign trade agreements... or the new fiat money system... or....

                              ... look at the big bad taping scandel instead.

                              I don't think Americans truly appreciate or understand how fundamentally our country changed around 1970 in every possibly way. I bet Historians will look back at some point and point to this time as the birth of a new nation. JMO anyway...
                              And Phase II, the Reagan Revolution, was even worse.

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