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  • #16
    Pot is awesome, but to compare that to crime rate is a bit far fetched. It' slike saying I have a rock that keeps Tigers away.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun View Post
      Dont get me wrong. I love pot. But it is a gateway drug. Ever heard of "pot depression". After a while pot will stop working for you. People start doing uppers just to do pot to feel that high again. That wh3n you get in trouble.

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      • #18
        Green gold: Colo. underestimated pot demand

        A study on the Colorado marijuana market is providing economists and business professionals an inside look at the pot industry for the first time. Regulators in the Centennial State have released the brief for the Colorado Department of Revenue, which reveals a number of interesting items, including that Coloradans are consuming a lot more cannabis than was previously estimated. There is also a large market for tourists taking part. The study accounts for recreational and medical marijuana, giving an in-depth look at the total market activity for what may be the first time in history.

        What is the major takeaway from the study? That folks in Colorado are consuming a lot of marijuana — 130 metric tons per year, actually. Of the state's 5.36 million people, 485,000, or 9%, are identified as regular adult marijuana users. While that doesn't seem like an awful lot, the most frequent users are by far creating the most demand. Heavy users especially, or those who use cannabis on a daily or near-daily basis, have been the biggest drivers. According to the study's numbers, the top 21.8% of the heaviest users account for 66.9% of the demand. In stark contrast, the lightest users — those that use marijuana less than once per month on average — make up roughly one-third of the entire user pool but only represents 0.3% of total demand.

        As far as tourists and visitors are concerned, out-of-state customers are definitely bringing money into the state. There is an estimated 8.9 metric tons of demand for visitors alone, and the numbers are skewed between rural and urban environments. It's estimated that 44% of retail sales in metro areas like Denver are made by out-of-state visitors, and a whopping 90% in the more rural mountain counties.

        All of the data shows a large underestimate by regulators as to how big the demand would actually be for retail marijuana in the state, and most of that demand has been driven by the heaviest users, according to the study.


        Rest of article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...mand/12690415/





        Is it too early to call the legalization of pot in Colorado a success?

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        • #19
          Crime has been trending downward long before weed was legalized. Nice attempt at correlation equals causation, though.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by TDmvp View Post
            As someone who has smoked pot almost everyday for 20 years , and has the money to do whatever drug he wants . I have never done or wanted to do any other drug , so no idea how it is a gateway drug.
            Because those who experiment with weed often move on to other things.

            You may also want to check out the negative effects of long term daily use of weed.

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            • #21
              Colorado welfare recipients are using ATMs located inside marijuana retail shops to withdraw cash.

              The money was given to them by taxpayers to help their families survive, but an exclusive Fox31 Denver investigation found some cash benefits most likely going toward marijuana purchases.

              http://kdvr.com/2014/02/19/welfare-c...ado-pot-shops/

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              • #22
                Originally posted by UltimateHoboW/Shotgun View Post
                Dont get me wrong. I love pot. But it is a gateway drug. Ever heard of "pot depression". After a while pot will stop working for you. People start doing uppers just to do pot to feel that high again. That wh3n you get in trouble.
                The Gateway drug thing is dumb. I smoked in HS. I never once thought "hmmmm doing a line of coke sounds good right about now". They need to legalize it and get it over with.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
                  Colorado welfare recipients are using ATMs located inside marijuana retail shops to withdraw cash.

                  The money was given to them by taxpayers to help their families survive, but an exclusive Fox31 Denver investigation found some cash benefits most likely going toward marijuana purchases.

                  http://kdvr.com/2014/02/19/welfare-c...ado-pot-shops/
                  Why did Colorado kill that bill that would have prevented such withdrawals in pot shops and strip clubs? Why do these "survival" ATM cards have no oversight in the first place?

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                  • #24
                    Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die

                    Scientists long ago abandoned the idea that marijuana causes users to try other drugs: as far back as 1999, in a report commissioned by Congress to
                    look at the possible dangers of medical marijuana, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences wrote:
                    Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit
                    drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first.
                    In fact, most drug users begin with alcohol and nicotine before marijuana — usually before they are of legal age.

                    In the sense that marijuana use typically precedes rather than follows initiation of other illicit drug use, it is indeed a “gateway” drug. But because
                    underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, “gateway” to illicit
                    drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs.
                    http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/2...-will-not-die/

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                      Marijuana as a Gateway Drug: The Myth That Will Not Die


                      http://healthland.time.com/2010/10/2...-will-not-die/
                      Alcohol and nicotine aren't illicit. Other than that, thanks for posting a link which proves the point that people often DO start with weed in the illicit drug arena and then move up the ladder of danger.

                      Myths dispelled indeed.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by nyuk nyuk View Post
                        Alcohol and nicotine aren't illicit. Other than that, thanks for posting a link which proves the point that people often DO start with weed in the illicit drug arena and then move up the ladder of danger.

                        Myths dispelled indeed.
                        Still can't comprehend anything that counters your beliefs?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by nyuk nyuk View Post
                          Alcohol and nicotine aren't illicit. Other than that, thanks for posting a link which proves the point that people often DO start with weed in the illicit drug arena and then move up the ladder of danger.

                          Myths dispelled indeed.
                          This is ridiculous. Alcohol and nicotine are both more harmful. Alcohol is also more of a menace on society. So you're in line with the Feds deciding what's best for us? You don't even seem to know the reasons the federal government criminalized it in the first place. You're just okay with the fact that they can come in and override the existing cannabis laws in each state, and tell each of us what we can do. Did you know that the Feds changed the word to confuse the medical industry? The term "marijuana" was Mexican slang for cannabis.

                          The Marihuana Tax Stamp Act of 1937 intentionally used cannabis' slang spelling 'marihuana' to avoid an outcry and heated opposition from the medical community and booming hemp industry. For example, when the Marihuana Stamp Act of 1937 was called for a vote on the floor of the United States House of Representatives, a Representative from New York asked what the Bill was about. The Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, Sam Rayburn, replied, “I don’t know. It has something to do with a thing called marihuana. I think it’s a narcotic of some kind." When asked if the American Medical Association supported the bill, a committee member falsely replied that it did. After this brief exchange the Bill was passed.
                          Last edited by Arkie; 07-29-2014, 02:13 AM.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Arkie View Post
                            This is ridiculous. Alcohol and nicotine are both more harmful. Alcohol is also more of a menace on society. So you're in line with the Feds deciding what's best for us?
                            You seem to not know what the term illicit means. Let me help you.

                            Illicit: not legally permitted or authorized; unlicensed; unlawful.

                            Alcohol and nicotine are legal and thus in far more widespread use. There is no reason to legalize other bad things because two bad things are already legalized. That's like saying we should let people rob banks and do home invasions because 7-11 got away with ripping someone off with dishonest advertising.

                            You're going to have to try MUCH harder than that.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                              Still can't comprehend anything that counters your beliefs?
                              It said exactly what you were arguing against: That pot indeed does often serve as a gateway to other illicit drugs.

                              Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first.

                              Thank you and have a nice day.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by nyuk nyuk View Post
                                It said exactly what you were arguing against: That pot indeed does often serve as a gateway to other illicit drugs.

                                Patterns in progression of drug use from adolescence to adulthood are strikingly regular. Because it is the most widely used illicit drug, marijuana is predictably the first illicit drug most people encounter. Not surprisingly, most users of other illicit drugs have used marijuana first.

                                Thank you and have a nice day.
                                Cherry picking again.

                                It continues but doesn't support your beliefs so you ignore it:

                                But because underage smoking and alcohol use typically precede marijuana use, marijuana is not the most common, and is rarely the first, “gateway” to illicit drug use. There is no conclusive evidence that the drug effects of marijuana are causally linked to the subsequent abuse of other illicit drugs.

                                You're welcome!

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