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  • Vermont Becomes First State to Call For Constitutional Convention to Overturn Citizens United

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  • #2
    That is fing awesome.

    The genius of the constitution.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by baja View Post
      That is fing awesome.

      The genius of the constitution.
      Um, there is no provision IN the Constitution that would enable the calling of a new Constitutional Convention..

      The idea is entirely extra-constitutional.

      Not a bad idea mind, but still.

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      • #4
        Jefferson lobbied for an expiration date on the Constitution. His suggestion was 20 years. Force each generation to come together and hammer out a new Constitution that would work better for them.

        He lost.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BroncsRule View Post
          Jefferson lobbied for an expiration date on the Constitution. His suggestion was 20 years. Force each generation to come together and hammer out a new Constitution that would work better for them.

          He lost.
          given the current state of our SCOTUS and Red vs Blue I think it is probably a good thing he lost . Politically we are a mess due to lobbying and gerrymandering and a hundred other things. The fact that we have a 200 yr old constitution may be what makes this from becoming even worse.

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          • #6
            People spending their money is form of free expression. To inhibit it would be to deny liberty. You can't get around it.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BroncsRule View Post
              Jefferson lobbied for an expiration date on the Constitution. His suggestion was 20 years. Force each generation to come together and hammer out a new Constitution that would work better for them.

              He lost.
              OUr Constitution allows for this already through the amendment process.
              Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 05-07-2014, 05:04 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
                People spending their money is form of free expression. To inhibit it would be to deny liberty. You can't get around it.
                So why aren't coke & whores legal they cost money.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ghwk View Post
                  given the current state of our SCOTUS and Red vs Blue I think it is probably a good thing he lost . Politically we are a mess due to lobbying and gerrymandering and a hundred other things. The fact that we have a 200 yr old constitution may be what makes this from becoming even worse.
                  I'm pretty convinced that, as a country, we'd be utterly incapable of hammering out a new constitution that 38 states would ratify.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                    I'm pretty convinced that, as a country, we'd be utterly incapable of hammering out a new constitution that 38 states would ratify.
                    Agree with you. For once.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by baja View Post
                      So why aren't coke & whores legal they cost money.
                      Are they petitioning the Government?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BroncsRule View Post
                        Um, there is no provision IN the Constitution that would enable the calling of a new Constitutional Convention..

                        The idea is entirely extra-constitutional.

                        Not a bad idea mind, but still.
                        Uh, actually there is.

                        Article. V.

                        The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
                          People spending their money is form of free expression. To inhibit it would be to deny liberty. You can't get around it.
                          Depends on whether corporations are people

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kappys View Post
                            Depends on whether corporations are people
                            Why do people get Corporation status? There is where the answer is.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                              I'm pretty convinced that, as a country, we'd be utterly incapable of hammering out a new constitution that 38 states would ratify.
                              I think you'd be left with 2 to 5 new nations.

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