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  • The ACA covering more people than first reported

    Obamacare effects are bigger than expected, poll finds

    New Gallup survey data suggest that about 12 million previously uninsured Americans have gained coverage since the fall.


    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...#ixzz2z7cUwt64



    The newly insured also seem to reflect the nation's deep political divide over the health law; 54% are Democrats, while just 24% are Republicans.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...#ixzz2z7cGXxje

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    The best news about this is that Democrats are the ones taking advantage of this and getting healthcare. That means they will have insurance, be more healthy and live longer.

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    • #3
      As good a place as any to post this:

      http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/...n-health-care/

      There’s simply no denying that the law has been rescued by an impressive post-fiasco operation that did to ACA-opponents what the Obama campaign did to the Clintons in 2008 and to Romney in 2012. Obama out-muscled the nay-sayers on the ground. I have a feeling that this has yet to fully sink in with the public, and when it does, the politics of this might change. (Since the law was pummeled at the get-go as something beyond the skills of the federal government to implement, its subsequent successful implementation would seem to me to do a lot to reverse the damage.) There are some signs that this is happening...

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      • #4
        Originally posted by TonyR View Post
        As good a place as any to post this:

        http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2014/...n-health-care/
        Might be a little too late though. Can you imagine the havoc republicans will cause if they get the Senate?

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        • #5
          Just 12.9% of adults nationally lacked coverage in the first half of April, initial data from the Gallup-Healthways Well-Being Index indicate. That's the lowest rate since the survey began in 2008.
          Eighteen percent were uninsured in the third quarter of 2013, just before Americans could start shopping for coverage on the new online marketplaces created by the law.
          Wow talk about your shell game. They measure the low point from where all the Obamacare cancellations are in full swing and then count all the people returning to some form of coverage as 'gaining' coverage.

          Oh and treating every medicaid enrollment as if it had anything to do with ACA. I wonder if it occurred to them that many people sign up for Medicaid every year, regardless of whatever the ACA did.

          Anyway, this puts this whole shell game in easier-to-digest terms/



          Statistically, we're basically back to where we were at the beginning of 2013 or 2011. It takes a special talent for data massage to look at all the upheaval from then to now and see substantial net benefit.

          Prototypical proggie 'problem solving' though. Create the problem. Then take credit for 'solving' it.
          Last edited by BroncoBeavis; 04-17-2014, 09:21 AM.

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          • #6
            and those newly insured needing a hip replacement will now get a cane instead.

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            • #7
              Baja don't forget about the death panels

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
                Baja don't forget about the death panels
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                • #9
                  FOX news?? They and Palin invented the 'death panels.'

                  What were the insurance companies who refused pre-existing conditions and took away coverage, mid treatment, from patients they deemed cost too much?

                  Weren't they the ultimate 'death panels?'

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                    FOX news?? They and Palin invented the 'death panels.'

                    What were the insurance companies who refused pre-existing conditions and took away coverage, mid treatment, from patients they deemed cost too much?

                    Weren't they the ultimate 'death panels?'
                    The statement came from Time’s Mark Halperin what difference does it make who's air waves it came over.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                      What were the insurance companies who refused pre-existing conditions
                      They were doing insurance. What you're doing is redistributive refinancing.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by baja View Post
                        The statement came from Time’s Mark Halperin what difference does it make who's air waves it came over.
                        Agenda makes a difference.

                        It's the insurance companies who had/have death panels.

                        I'm not sure how the ACA implements 'rationing,' we barely understand the convoluted clusterf***.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                          They were doing insurance. What you're doing is redistributive refinancing.


                          Right, now it's my fault.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post


                            Right, now it's my fault.
                            No. Just want to make sure you understand the difference between an insurance policy and a loan.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                              Agenda makes a difference.

                              It's the insurance companies who had/have death panels.

                              I'm not sure how the ACA implements 'rationing,' we barely understand the convoluted cluster****.
                              That is exactly my point. Did you watch the short clip? The problem is who decides this all important 'rationing'. The greater problem is it will take 60 senate votes to repeal the law and after 2017 there is no recourse to repeal the law the way it is currently written. Watch the clip.

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