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    A new Ruby Ridge in the making over the Endangered Desert Tortoise

    Nevada Governor Brian Sandoval has inserted himself into the escalating standoff between cattle rancher Cliven Bundy and federal officials by blasting the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) over their creation of a ‘First Amendment Area’ outside of which free speech is banned.

    The ‘First Amendment Area’ set up by BLM agents is a crudely taped off piece of land inside which supporters of Bundy, who is engaged in a long running dispute with feds over grazing rights on a 600,000 acre expanse in northeastern Clark County, are allowed to express their free speech.

    “Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution,” said Sandoval in a statement. “To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately.”
    On Sunday, Cliven Bundy promised to launch a “range war” on federal officials after they began rounding up his cattle. Authorities are justifying the move by pointing out they are simply enforcing a 1993 rule change which prevents Bundy’s livestock from grazing on the land in order to protect the endangered desert tortoise.

    The Bundy family came face to face with the consequences of violating the free speech zone on Sunday when Dave Bundy was arrested for taking video footage from a state highway of BLM agents rounding up his family’s cattle. Video footage later proved that armed snipers had their guns trained on the family during the incident.

    http://www.infowars.com/nevada-gover...bundy-dispute/


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    Local crime story. Nothing to report. But on a serious note, a republican member of congress was CAUGHT MAKING OUT WITH A FEMALE OMG NATIONAL APOCALYPSE1!1!!!

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    • #3
      The guy has been illegally grazing his cattle on public land since 1993. I agree, the freedom of speech zone is pure BLM stupidity and the moron who came up with it should be fired, but this guy's claims that the law doesn't apply to him are

      I also hate to mention it, but that land is not suitable for grazing cattle.
      Last edited by Rohirrim; 04-09-2014, 03:13 PM.

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          Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
          The guy has been illegally grazing his cattle on public land since 1993. I agree, the freedom of speech zone is pure BLM stupidity and the moron who came up with it should be fired, but this guy's claims that the law doesn't apply to him are

          I also hate to mention it, but that land is not suitable for grazing cattle.
          Yo do not have the whole story.

          His family has had grazing rights since 1861. These rights are lawful and have been effect for over 100 years.

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          • #6
            Strange how the liberals always find a way to make excuses when a government agency does this sort of thing when a democrat is in the WH, but are demanding every hearing known to man if it happens with a republican in the WH. Ok, it's not so strange, it's predictable. Of course, they like to believe they are so deep and complex with their thinking

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            • #7
              Originally posted by baja View Post
              Yo do not have the whole story.

              His family has had grazing rights since 1861. These rights are lawful and have been effect for over 100 years.
              Grazing rights on public land. Given the nature of the land, the guy shouldn't be grazing cattle there anyway. It's environmentally ridiculous. No doubt back in 1861 everybody's cattle were roaming across thousands of acres of land that belonged to the public and nobody gave a damn. That's what it would take for that land to support five hundred head. Things change. This guy believes everything should stay the same forever. Wish him luck with that.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
                Grazing rights on public land. Given the nature of the land, the guy shouldn't be grazing cattle there anyway. It's environmentally ridiculous. No doubt back in 1861 everybody's cattle were roaming across thousands of acres of land that belonged to the public and nobody gave a damn. That's what it would take for that land to support five hundred head. Things change. This guy believes everything should stay the same forever. Wish him luck with that.
                Check the story

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by baja View Post
                    Check the story
                    I read the whole thing. Like I said, the BLM is full of idiots who should be fired. The guy is an ahole who believes that the law applies to everybody but him. What can be said? Two groups of idiots going head to head. The son is not helping matters by threatening a "range war" against the U.S. government. The desert tortoise habitat in the Southwest is extremely endangered. Do you think cattle should be grazing on that land? Do you think that's a reasonable use of resources? I wonder how much water this yahoo has to make available to cattle grazing in the ****ing desert? What kind of beef could he even be raising out there? He must be doing supplemental feeding up the wazoo. Somebody out there needs to rent a brain.

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                    • #11
                      Before Nevada Cattle Rancher Standoff, BLM Killed Hundreds of Endangered Desert Tortoises

                      Endangered tortoise used as justification to assault Nevada rancher’s property rights
                      Adan Salazar

                      Months before the heated contention between the Bureau of Land Management and Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, purportedly over protecting an endangered species of desert tortoise, the BLM was euthanizing the tortoises in droves.

                      700 – 840 endangered tortoises face BLM euthanization “because that’s the sensible thing to do.”
                      On Saturday, the BLM, with the help of helicopters, low-flying aircraft and hired cowboys, began rounding up Bundy’s cattle, and forbade him from interfering with the operation, as Bundy announced he was prepared to weather a full-on assault.
                      “My forefathers have been up and down the Virgin Valley ever since 1877. All these rights I claim have been created through pre-emptive rights and beneficial use of the forage and water. I have been here longer. My rights are before the BLM even existed,” Bundy said.
                      The BLM says they’re moving in, not to encroach on the man’s property rights, but because Bundy didn’t pay “grazing fees,” which the Bureau has imposed on land developers “who disturb tortoise habitat on public land,” according to the Associated Press.
                      Throughout the housing boom in the 2000s, the Bureau was earning enough to fund the Desert Tortoise Conservation Center (DTCC) in southern Las Vegas, a habitat “created in 1991 to house wild desert tortoises removed from the path of development and to use those tortoises to aid recovery of the species.” Its operating budget was about $1 million per year.
                      But the recession that followed dwindled the number of developers, and in turn funds for the DTCC.
                      So, facing the prospect of shutting their doors, the DTCC began releasing healthier turtles into the wild, and euthanizing some of the sick ones.
                      From the AP, August 25, 2013:
                      Back at the conservation center, a large refrigerator labeled “carcass freezer” hummed in the desert sun as scientists examined the facility’s 1,400 inhabitants to find those hearty enough to release into the wild. Officials expect to euthanize more than half the animals in the coming months in preparation for closure at the end of 2014.
                      “It’s the lesser of two evils, but it’s still evil,” Roy Averill-Murray, tortoise recovery coordinator with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service desert, told the AP.

                      Averill-Murray estimated 50 to 60 percent of the facility’s 1,400 tortoises were stricken with disease and could not be housed near healthy tortoises. Others were “too feeble to survive,” according to the AP, and could not be adopted out.
                      “The ones that don’t get better and that are sick and suffering will probably be euthanized because that’s the sensible thing to do,” Allyson Walsh, associate director for the San Diego Zoo’s Institute for Conservation Research, said.
                      News that the tortoises were going to be set free or killed spurred people around the world to contact the refuge in attempts to adopt death row tortoises, and donations began flowing in hopes to keep the DTCC afloat, but the BLM estimated it wouldn’t be enough to sustain it overall.
                      “Although it’s wonderful that people want to give money, it won’t change the outcome for the Desert Conservation Center,” BLM Communications Chief Erica Haspiel-Szlosek stated. “There just isn’t money to keep it going, nor is it really the best use of conservation funds.”
                      The tortoises’ average 100-year life span also doesn’t exactly make them the most ideal pets.
                      Despite the imminent closing of the DTCC’s doors due to lack of funding, the BLM has gone on to round up about 234 of rancher Cliven Bundy’s cattle at gunpoint claiming they’re helping protect the tortoise and also claiming he owes them over $1 million in grazing fees.
                      At the same time, seizing and impounding all 908 of Bundy’s cattle would cost the government an estimated $3 million, a figure that would keep the DTCC thriving for another three years.
                      Interestingly, the BLM is also facing a lawsuit from various environmental groups suing on the grounds that the bureau “has failed to track the effects of a wide range of human activities in the California desert on the tortoise..”
                      All of this illustrates how the BLM’s dispute with Mr. Bundy has nothing to do with saving or protecting tortoises (most of which were given to the facility by people who owned them as pets, and which the BLM is either killing or releasing into the wild – animals raised in captivity don’t usually fare well in the wild) as they claim, and everything to do with making an example out of Mr. Bundy for having the gall to stand up for his property, bullying him into submission by brute force.

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                      • #12
                        http://youtu.be/KcKFr7bCWo0

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                        • #13
                          Proceed to the boot-licking zone and present your papers for inspection, citizen.

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                          • #14
                            Govt agencies are out of control under Obummer. First Jimmy Carter and now this. Democrats can't be trusted to elect Presidents.

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                            • #15
                              What's scary about this is the agenda 21 plan behind it. The "why" of this invasion of federal government

                              http://youtu.be/KcKFr7bCWo0

                              And yes Ro over grazing is a problem but there is something much more sinister in play here. Watch this short video and look into Agenda 21

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