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    Not that most of us didn't know this already, but it's nice to remind all the anti-gubmint, overtaxed rightards on this board.

    Red states are most dependent on government money, study shows

    The rankings relied on data, such as return on taxes paid to the government – or how many dollars each state gets back for what it pays in federal taxes, federal funding as a percentage of state revenue, and number of federal employees per capita. While South Carolina didn’t make the top five in terms of overall dependency, the Palmetto state has the highest return on taxpayer investment, with citizens raking in nearly $8 from the federal government for every $1 they pay into the pot.

    The report found the least wealthy states were more likely to receive more federal support, and also found acorrelation between a state’s federal dependency and tax rates.

    “What if, for example, a particular state can afford not to tax its residents at high rates because it’s receiving disproportionately more funding from the federal government than states with apparently oppressive tax codes?” report author John Kiernan wrote in his analysis. “That would change the narrative significantly, revealing federal dependence where bold, efficient stewardship was once thought to preside.”

    “The idea of the American freeloader burst into the public consciousness when #47percent started trending on Twitter,” he added. “And while the notion is senselessly insulting to millions of hardworking Americans, it is true that some states receive a far higher return on their federal income tax investment than others.”

    The analysis becomes the latest nail in the coffin on Mitt Romey’s repeatedly-debunked suggestion during the 2012 election that those most dependent on the government were more likely to be President Obama’s supporters.

    More recently, Romney’s former running-mate, Rep. Paul Ryan, has become a leading voice in his party discussing issues of poverty. He came under fire earlier this month after arguing poverty in inner cities was created in part by a “culture problem” and lack of work ethic in “generations of men.” Ryan later said those comments were “inarticulate” and said he intended to accept an invitation from members of the Congressional Black Caucus to discuss and explore the issue further.

    http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/...vernment-money

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    sorry but going by % is a joke. What you have is a few small red states whose % sounds bad but doesn't cost us much.

    Then you have Calif and NY freeloaders who may not make up as high of a % but still outnumber the others 10-1.

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    • #3
      Good try though considering your party is in cahoots with gun runners in CA.

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      • #4
        I knew you would be the first one in here. percentages or not, the redstaters are the biggest blowhards when it comes to hating on the gubmint. step up or STFU

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        • #5
          Sorry but the amount of money heading to CA dwarfs any red state.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
            Sorry but the amount of money heading to CA dwarfs any red state.
            states..plural...red states...hate big gubmint...think they are overtaxed...dependent on gubmint money..hypocrisy...got it?

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            • #7
              Sorry debunked. Thread closed.

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              • #8
                http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/...e_welfare.html

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                • #9
                  the writer is confused as to what red state means.so how many elections have to pass before we can say a state is a red state cut?can you provide me with a list of what you believe to be red states?

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                  • #10
                    What drives me the most nuts about right-wingers is their over-blown, self-proclaimed notion of being the pillars of the earth. As if by supporting the idea of a societal safety-net this in turn must mean that this individual is a lazy, unmotivated, moocher who sits at home watching Maury all day and eating Snickers bars that were bought using food stamps. It pisses me off to no end actually. I'm liberal, I want my taxes to help those in need while I have worked since I was fourteen and have never taken a dime of assistance in my life.

                    I think a society is only as great as how it treats its poor. These are constructs that Christ preached. (By the way, I'm an atheist)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>

                    I don't know a lot of staunch Republicans as I tend to run in pretty liberal professional and social circles, but, the two I know best are more latched to the government tit than ALL of my liberal friends put together. One of them is a farmer who cries foul if a poor person buys a soda with food stamps yet he gleefully has taken a half a million dollars in subsidies to run HIS business. The other maxed out his unemployment benefits... TWICE, in just under a decade.<o:p></o:p>

                    Yeah, we know who the REAL freeloaders are. <o:p></o:p>

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by DenverDynamite View Post
                      What drives me the most nuts about right-wingers is their over-blown, self-proclaimed notion of being the pillars of the earth. As if by supporting the idea of a societal safety-net this in turn must mean that this individual is a lazy, unmotivated, moocher who sits at home watching Maury all day and eating Snickers bars that were bought using food stamps. It pisses me off to no end actually. I'm liberal, I want my taxes to help those in need while I have worked since I was fourteen and have never taken a dime of assistance in my life.

                      I think a society is only as great as how it treats its poor. These are constructs that Christ preached. (By the way, I'm an atheist)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<img src=" /><o:p></o:p>

                      I don't know a lot of staunch Republicans as I tend to run in pretty liberal professional and social circles, but, the two I know best are more latched to the government tit than ALL of my liberal friends put together. One of them is a farmer who cries foul if a poor person buys a soda with food stamps yet he gleefully has taken a half a million dollars in subsidies to run HIS business. The other maxed out his unemployment benefits... TWICE, in just under a decade.<o:p></o:p>

                      Yeah, we know who the REAL freeloaders are. <o:p></o:p>
                      great post. the right are strange. they are led to believe that someone is always taking something from them. that is how they are herded. they are the self proclaimed party of Christ yet they act nothing like his teachings. they want to spend billions on wars or tax cuts for corporations yet balk when people need help here....in this country.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
                        great post. the right are strange. they are led to believe that someone is always taking something from them. that is how they are herded. they are the self proclaimed party of Christ yet they act nothing like his teachings. they want to spend billions on wars or tax cuts for corporations yet balk when people need help here....in this country.
                        I think it is somewhat of a victimization complex that they currently are displaying. I really think the election of Obama has made their collective heads explode. There was a time when Republicans in general were actually very reasonable on socio-economic issues. Most, if not all, generally supported welfare programs, public schools, etc. Now, I think that they subconsciously suspect that a black president is going to steal THEIR money and give it away to other dark people. It sounds ridiculous, but I think it has merit.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rigs11 View Post
                          the writer is confused as to what red state means.so how many elections have to pass before we can say a state is a red state cut?can you provide me with a list of what you believe to be red states?
                          It's not scientific to make Presidential election results the benchmark. Even in states that go blue like Calif it isn't the freeloaders sending all the money to DC.

                          You can't just say hey this state is 54% repub voting, 46% dem so they are 100% red when it comes to your wacky try at making conservatives out to be the freeloaders.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DenverDynamite View Post
                            I think it is somewhat of a victimization complex that they currently are displaying. I really think the election of Obama has made their collective heads explode. There was a time when Republicans in general were actually very reasonable on socio-economic issues. Most, if not all, generally supported welfare programs, public schools, etc. Now, I think that they subconsciously suspect that a black president is going to steal THEIR money and give it away to other dark people. It sounds ridiculous, but I think it has merit.
                            yep, he's going to steal their money or their guns.it's nonsense really, they always boast that America is the greatest country on earth.yet want to do nothing to advance it. if you notice on this board, many repubs will side with big corporations and belittle those less fortunate americans as lazy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                              It's not scientific to make Presidential election results the benchmark. Even in states that go blue like Calif it isn't the freeloaders sending all the money to DC.

                              You can't just say hey this state is 54% repub voting, 46% dem so they are 100% red when it comes to your wacky try at making conservatives out to be the freeloaders.
                              so give me a list of states that you think are red.then we can look at which ones are sucking on the gubmint's teet.

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