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  • Should non-citizens be allowed to vote in US elections?

    I had a conversation with a coworker this morning. He said he believes anyone that is in the country for any reason should be allowed to vote since "they are participants in that society." He pointed out how they spend money and pay taxes on purchased goods. Many come here to work and don't know or don't want to wait to receive citizenship the "proper" way.

    What do you all think?
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    Yes.
    14.07%
    38
    No.
    57.41%
    155
    I don't care.
    13.33%
    36
    The Dave
    15.19%
    41

  • #2
    Nope

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    • #3
      Hell no. Your friend is a moron.

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      • #4
        Is this a trick question?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
          Hell no. Your friend is a moron.
          The topic came up when I mentioned this Article.

          http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...llowed_to_vote

          It's about proving citizenship in order to vote. 78% think it is a good idea. I mentioned this and wondered aloud who the 22% who didn't like the idea were. He chimed in saying he didn't agree. Some think asking for proof is racial profiling, so I asked if that was the issue and he was like "No, I think if you're here you should be able to vote." Then he went off about how the rest of the world would help elect more true socialists and started to make suggestions about how non-socialists were racist. This is at work, so he might be insane. Anyway I walked away because that's an HR bomb ready to blow.

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          • #6
            I'm still in favor of the if you don't pay taxes, you don't vote rule.

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            • #7
              I don't like making it a tax issue. If you are an American you get to vote. But you should have to prove it. IMO though in small towns, for people over a certain age with no id, maybe we could make some way for them to still vote.

              But to just say we never will require ID IMO is silly. All people under a certain age should have to have one. That way eventually everyone will.

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              • #8
                What about a student not currently working? He deserves to vote.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post

                  But to just say we never will require ID IMO is silly. All people under a certain age should have to have one. That way eventually everyone will.
                  Functionally, there's no difference between saying "Everyone can vote" and "We should not require identification to vote."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                    Hell no. Your friend is a ****ing moron.
                    Ask him is he guaranteed that the illegal alien or alien resident is voting for his own country or the one that he is borrowing from (until he decides to take a pledge and be loyal to USA)?

                    Cut, fixed your post.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                      What about a student not currently working? He deserves to vote.
                      Most students work at least some and pay in taxes, but yeah that would be a good exception.

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                      • #12
                        It is a right for an American citizen, who has no recorded felonies. That is the way it should stay, whether or not you pay taxes...

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                        • #13
                          Hell, to the NO!

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                          • #14
                            Forget taxes....it's pretty basic that citizenship would be a prerequisite for voting rights. I have a friend you has been living abroad for the better part of a decade, he doesn't get to vote in any of those countries, and he doesn't wish to.

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                            • #15
                              I may be in the minority, but documented individuals should be able to vote. the waiting period to become a citizen is very long and complicated. While you are in this country, the elected individuals affect your life. Without a right to vote, this minority composed of many working and money spending society has no voice and thus isn't properly considered when making political decisions. For a good portion of this country's history, non citizen individuals were considered in our laws and how we became such a melting pot society. Aside from some less fortunate Latin American countries, America is becoming less a less a desired destination to move to and call home.

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