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  • #31
    Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
    The joke is you, every talking point the rethugs have pushed on the tragedy that was Benghazi has been debunked,yet you still push the bogus conspiracy.
    So the Benghazi attack was caused by anti-Muslim video, I guess I missed that could you please post the link?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
      No. As in a report authored by your own rethuglican party.
      Republicans are authoring Senate reports now? Do Dick and Harry know?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
        So the Benghazi attack was caused by anti-Muslim video, I guess I missed that could you please post the link?
        Oh did Hillary order the attack? You got absolutely nothing.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
          Republicans are authoring Senate reports now? Do Dick and Harry know?
          http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/...military-hasc/

          In a new report released on Tuesday, the House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four Americans killed that night. In doing so, the report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military not to intervene.
          For months after the attack that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, conservative media was awash in reports that on the night of the assault the Obama administration at some point ordered the military not to take action that would have saved lives. This supposed “stand down order” led to a bevy of right-wing conspiracies about why the President and his administration had let the Americans die.
          “Who told the SEALs to stand down?” Rep. Steve King asked in Nov. 2012, in just one of many interviews with Republicans referring to the response to Benghazi as “worse than Watergate.”
          As Media Matters reports, Fox News cited reports of a stand-down order no fewer than 85 times during prime-time segments as of June 2013. As the new report — which the Republican majority of the committee authored –makes very clear in its findings, however, no such order ever existed. “There was no ‘stand down’ order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi,” the report says, noting that the military was not positioned to respond to the attack.
          “Given the military’s preparations on September 11, 2012, majority members have not yet discerned any response alternatives that could have likely changed the outcome of the Benghazi attack,” the report concludes.

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          • #35
            In light of the uncertain security environment, US Mission Benghazi will submit specific requests to US Embassy Tripoli for additional physical security upgrades and staffing needs by separate cover,” said the cable, which was first reported by Fox News.

            Army Gen. Carter Ham, then the head of the U.S. Africa Command, did not wait for the separate cable, however. Instead, after reading the Aug. 16 cable, Ham phoned Stevens and asked if the embassy needed a special security team from the U.S. military. Stevens told Ham it did not, the officials said.

            Weeks later, Stevens traveled to Germany for an already scheduled meeting with Ham at AFRICOM headquarters. During that meeting, Ham again offered additional military assets, and Stevens again said no, the two officials said.

            http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/1...-military.html

            There is no scandal. A tragedy,but not a scandal.
            Last edited by peacepipe; 02-25-2014, 04:51 PM.

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            • #36
              It doesn't have to be a scandal to show ineptness by the Obama White House. Foreign policy a joke. The world a friggin mess and everything they tried to touch turned to ****.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                It doesn't have to be a scandal to show ineptness by the Obama White House. Foreign policy a joke. The world a friggin mess and everything they tried to touch turned to ****.
                Give it up,you ain't got ****!

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                • #38
                  Congress better look at any deal with Iran very closely. I don't trust Obama to make a good deal. I think he just wants to make a deal to try and say look I tried to do something. Meanswhile sometime during the next presidents term they ignite a nuclear bomb underground and join the club.

                  Then just like North Korea we are ****ed.

                  Obama has done a decent job against terrorism, and with relations with China, but get's poor marks for Egypt and Syria. Syria just a global disaster that he mishandled. Kerry and Obama screwed the pooch bad on that one.

                  Also he took giving Ambassadorships to donors to a new level. Most Presidents stop at 20-30%, not Obama he's been running at a new record pace. Just like usual he goes overboard on **** he said he would change. He's a joke.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                    Congress better look at any deal with Iran very closely. I don't trust Obama to make a good deal. I think he just wants to make a deal to try and say look I tried to do something. Meanswhile sometime during the next presidents term they ignite a nuclear bomb underground and join the club.

                    Then just like North Korea we are ****ed.

                    Obama has done a decent job against terrorism, and with relations with China, but get's poor marks for Egypt and Syria. Syria just a global disaster that he mishandled. Kerry and Obama screwed the pooch bad on that one.

                    Also he took giving Ambassadorships to donors to a new level. Most Presidents stop at 20-30%, not Obama he's been running at a new record pace. Just like usual he goes overboard on **** he said he would change. He's a joke.
                    It's hard to figure out what you actually believe in. Judging by basic conservative values, Obama did a great job with Syria: We didn't get involved, other than marginally. You forget, the disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan were already in full operation when Obama was elected. He tried to make apple pie out of cow ****. That was his mistake. As far as Egypt, Libya and the rest go, nobody else (Russia, for instance) did any better. Sometimes there is nothing you can do. Countries implode. Best to get out of the way, because you are in no way going to be able to guide outcomes. I just wish our government had the brains to believe in the guidance of our first president, who was a hell of a lot smarter than all of them combined.

                    The funny thing is, when Obama follows a strictly conservative policy, the so-called conservatives excoriate him. You can almost sense that their criticism actually has nothing to do with policy. Of course the neo-conservatives, who believe the capital of the U.S. is Tel Aviv, would not be satisfied with any policy in Syria that did not include a full-on invasion.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                      Lobbying for legislation that is then passed legally not the same as gangster style bribes buddy.
                      Yeah. Because we all know when the repugs do it there is no quid pro quo.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Rohirrim View Post
                        Judging by basic conservative values, Obama did a great job with Syria: We didn't get involved, other than marginally. You forget, the disasters of Iraq and Afghanistan were already in full operation when Obama was elected. He tried to make apple pie out of cow ****. That was his mistake. As far as Egypt, Libya and the rest go, nobody else (Russia, for instance) did any better. Sometimes there is nothing you can do.
                        You couldn't be more wrong with this sunshine nonsense. Sometimes there really is nothing you can do, you're right. But then the answer is to do nothing. Half-assing it is the worst of both worlds. In fact if you go back to candidate Obama in 2008, he blamed Bush for half-assing Afghanistan and said we should do more there.

                        Then he comes to office and enacts a fully quarter-to-half assed foreign policy everywhere he goes. Problems in Egypt? Destabilize and walk away. Problems in Libya? Plink the regime from afar, create a power vacuum, then walk away. Atrocities in Syria? Speak very loudly, then drop your stick and walk away.

                        Egypt and Libya are living testaments to the fact that change for change's sake, even in ugly conditions, is never necessarily improvement. Good change usually requires both solid principle and tons and tons of work. Usually inconvenient and difficult work. Work that is often never done. This is the biggest lesson Obama's entire Presidency thus far repeatedly teaches us.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
                          http://thinkprogress.org/world/2014/...military-hasc/

                          In a new report released on Tuesday, the House Armed Services Committee concludes that there was no way for the U.S. military to have responded in time to the 2012 terrorist attack in Benghazi, Libya to save the four Americans killed that night. In doing so, the report debunks entirely a right-wing myth that says the White House ordered the military not to intervene.
                          For months after the attack that resulted in the death of U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, conservative media was awash in reports that on the night of the assault the Obama administration at some point ordered the military not to take action that would have saved lives. This supposed “stand down order” led to a bevy of right-wing conspiracies about why the President and his administration had let the Americans die.
                          “Who told the SEALs to stand down?” Rep. Steve King asked in Nov. 2012, in just one of many interviews with Republicans referring to the response to Benghazi as “worse than Watergate.”
                          As Media Matters reports, Fox News cited reports of a stand-down order no fewer than 85 times during prime-time segments as of June 2013. As the new report — which the Republican majority of the committee authored –makes very clear in its findings, however, no such order ever existed. “There was no ‘stand down’ order issued to U.S. military personnel in Tripoli who sought to join the fight in Benghazi,” the report says, noting that the military was not positioned to respond to the attack.
                          “Given the military’s preparations on September 11, 2012, majority members have not yet discerned any response alternatives that could have likely changed the outcome of the Benghazi attack,” the report concludes.
                          Hate to break it to you and ThinkProggie, but the House Armed Services Committee has no oversight over a predominately State Dept scandal. They investigated the military's role and concluded that given the shocking ineptitude of the Obama's Administration's intelligence and security plan in Libya, there was little the military could've done on its own at the last minute.

                          As for the Youtube video coverup and lies told by the State Dept, that report doesn't (and can't) speak to any of it.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by BroncoBeavis View Post
                            Hate to break it to you and ThinkProggie, but the House Armed Services Committee has no oversight over a predominately State Dept scandal. They investigated the military's role and concluded that given the shocking ineptitude of the Obama's Administration's intelligence and security plan in Libya, there was little the military could've done on its own at the last minute.

                            As for the Youtube video coverup and lies told by the State Dept, that report doesn't (and can't) speak to any of it.
                            Spewing BS as if it is true isn't going to change the fact that it's still BS. Your make believe scandal doesn't have a leg to stand on.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by peacepipe View Post
                              Spewing BS as if it is true isn't going to change the fact that it's still BS. Your make believe scandal doesn't have a leg to stand on.
                              You still didn't answer the question, why did the WH try to cover up what happened by claiming it was caused by anti-Muslim video? Still waiting ..........

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
                                You still didn't answer the question, why did the WH try to cover up what happened by claiming it was caused by anti-Muslim video? Still waiting ..........
                                There was no cover up dumbass. Everything said was based on what they knew at the time.

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