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  • #31
    Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
    There will be a very large number who will choose to stop working or reduce hours as they are no longer dependent on employers providing healthcare coverage.

    How they arrive at that number is important, not that they can't.
    A valid point, but hardly a rock solid thing to predict. There are so many confounds that immediately come to mind from a younger labor force to changing roles and responsibilities in the work place..and especially technology. Technology will eliminate more jobs and cause more upheaval the ACA IMO. Also...while they might not get their subsizied healthcare from their employer, they'll still need a job to pay for premiums. And all this analysis is based on if the ACA stays the same...which we know it won't and in ten years it might be gone and replaced with something else anyway.
    Last edited by Garcia Bronco; 02-07-2014, 01:15 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
      A valid point, but hardly a rock solid thing to predict. There are so many confounds that immediately come to mind from a younger labor force to changing roles and responsibilities in the work place..and especially technology. Technology will eliminate more jobs and cause more upheaval the ACA IMO. Also...while they might not get their subsizied healthcare from their employer, they'll still need a job to pay for premiums. And all this analysis is based on if the ACA stays the same...which we know it won't and in ten years it might be gone and replaced with something else anyway.
      I doubt it, the ACA set universal healthcare back longer than that. I hope you're right we should've gone with universal HC to begin with.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
        A valid point, but hardly a rock solid thing to predict. There are so many confounds that immediately come to mind from a younger labor force to changing roles and responsibilities in the work place..and especially technology. Technology will eliminate more jobs and cause more upheaval the ACA IMO. Also...while they might not get their subsizied healthcare from their employer, they'll still need a job to pay for premiums. And all this analysis is based on if the ACA stays the same...which we know it won't and in ten years it might be gone and replaced with something else anyway.
        They're all projections, and I agree, very fluid.

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        • #34
          It's going to take 5 yrs to evaluate Obamacare fairly. We need to see the numbers over a longer period of time. Right now I heard up to 30% who signed up never paid.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
            It's going to take 5 yrs to evaluate Obamacare fairly. We need to see the numbers over a longer period of time. Right now I heard up to 30% who signed up never paid.
            According to who

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            • #36
              Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
              It's going to take 5 yrs to evaluate Obamacare fairly. We need to see the numbers over a longer period of time. Right now I heard up to 30% who signed up never paid.
              So then you agree it's just a little premature for people to be saying all the doom and gloom things they have been?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
                It's going to take 5 yrs to evaluate Obamacare fairly. We need to see the numbers over a longer period of time. Right now I heard up to 30% who signed up never paid.
                Shockingly sensible statement from a conservative.

                And also there are inevitable reforms to optimize the system. But if it works well enough to begin with I think the American public will be on board for keeping and improving it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by houghtam View Post
                  So then you agree it's just a little premature for people to be saying all the doom and gloom things they have been?
                  IMO they are still arguing the ideology of it. Neither side has enough data to see if the program is going to fly straight.

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                  • #39
                    It will be interesting to see the Obamacare stats at this time next yr. I think it is fair to say that there are plenty of warning signs the program is struggling to insure people any better.

                    It sort of looks like it just expanded medicare which is hardly a home run.

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                    • #40
                      Check out the latest interview with Paul Craig Roberts.
                      http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingwor...g_Roberts.html

                      He says the Fed will face a major decision, later this year. Will they opt to save the big banks -- or the dollar? They can't do both. Which will it be?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mhgaffney View Post
                        Check out the latest interview with Paul Craig Roberts.
                        http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingwor...g_Roberts.html

                        He says the Fed will face a major decision, later this year. Will they opt to save the big banks -- or the dollar? They can't do both. Which will it be?
                        Didn't see his interview...the link was just his bio. Sorry

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Garcia Bronco View Post
                          Didn't see his interview...the link was just his bio. Sorry
                          try this.
                          start here and scroll down

                          http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingwor...orld_News.html

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by mhgaffney View Post
                            Check out the latest interview with Paul Craig Roberts.
                            An even better oracle...

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