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  • #16
    Originally posted by B-Large View Post
    The medical MJ was a good segway to mitigate the "pot jokes" you referenced. Medical ran just fine for years here and there were no mass murders, robberies, rashes of kids getting stoned at every turn... so I think the recreational step is logical and well planned.

    Now I just hear most opponents trying to make an argument for how MJ is more dangerous that Alcohol, or that it is the gateway- if there is any Gateway, it is alcohol... or maybe that Gateway ntoion is BS, and some people just get into drugs and experiment, some don't.
    The Gateway argument is a case by case deal. Pot, alcohol, even cigarettes are a gateway for some people. For most others, not so. The whole argument gets jacked up when you start generalizing.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by houghtam View Post
      Well gee, genius. I thought you were a fan of the free market? Do you even understand how it works? Once more and more places open up, guess what? Competition.
      Well the problem is the regulations on where you can get weed, who can own a shop, where you can open one will make sure to stifle that free market. A free market is get your weed from the best supplier not all the rules colo trying. That just drives price even higher.

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      • #18
        Same thing in CA they make rules so bogus the shops are way more pricey then underground. Govt has to say its legal period, at the fed level. That way CA weed can flood the market and Mexico can get in on the act as well. That should drop the price down to about 50 bucks an ounce and destroy the American pot economy.

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        • #19
          Only a liberal would say a market with tons of regulations, restrictions, which keep the price as high as it was when it was illegal is some sort of free market lol.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
            Well the problem is the regulations on where you can get weed, who can own a shop, where you can open one will make sure to stifle that free market. A free market is get your weed from the best supplier not all the rules colo trying. That just drives price even higher. Same thing in CA they make rules so bogus the shops are way more pricey then underground. Govt has to say its legal period, at the fed level. That way CA weed can flood the market and Mexico can get in on the act as well. That should drop the price down to about 50 bucks an ounce and destroy the American pot economy. Only a liberal would say a market with tons of regulations, restrictions, which keep the price as high as it was when it was illegal is some sort of free market lol.
            Question for you, cut.

            Can you buy cigarettes just anywhere? Can you buy beer just anywhere? Can you buy wine just anywhere? Can you buy liquor just anywhere? Are there restrictions as to the potency and classification of beers, wines and liquors? Are there restrictions as to where, how and how much you can manufacture on your own property for private use? Are there taxes on these things? Do those taxes go to good causes? Are they still affordable? Can you still get ****ed up?

            Only a cutthemdown wouldn't understand these things.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by cutthemdown View Post
              Well the problem is the regulations on where you can get weed, who can own a shop, where you can open one will make sure to stifle that free market. A free market is get your weed from the best supplier not all the rules colo trying. That just drives price even higher.
              Once enough of the 'shops' open and real competition begins, the prices will plummet by somewhere close to 50%.

              My guess is an ounce will settle down in the $180-$250 range, in line with medical pot.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by B-Large View Post
                It will be inetresting to see ho many people opt to grow and maintain. I assume there is a space and equipement/ nutrtional hurdles, but 6 plants will yield alot of product of done well.
                I figure the same percentage that grow their own tomatoes, herbs, roses and make their own beer, e.g. instead of buying them at the market. This will be just another hobbyists market that is now legal and the home grower is now free from fear of arrest and prosecution.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by El Minion View Post
                  I figure the same percentage that grow their own tomatoes, herbs, roses and make their own beer, e.g. instead of buying them at the market. This will be just another hobbyists market that is now legal and the home grower is now free from fear of arrest and prosecution.
                  I think you're right, although I'm guessing it's probably going to be closer to home brewing than gardening. Probably more to start off until the novelty dies off and they figure out it's just easier to buy it at the store.

                  And probably just like home brewing, you'll get some people that are good at it, some that suck, and there won't be much consistency between strains. But even the skunk weed will still get you ****ed up for a bit.

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                  • #24
                    Legalized Marijuana Cookie Sends 2-Year-Old Girl To Hospital In Colorado

                    http://www.medicaldaily.com/legalize...olorado-266338

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
                      Legalized Marijuana Cookie Sends 2-Year-Old Girl To Hospital In Colorado

                      http://www.medicaldaily.com/legalize...olorado-266338
                      Thank god that doesn't happen with prescription meds, alcohol or anything else potentially harmful to a toddler.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by houghtam View Post
                        I think you're right, although I'm guessing it's probably going to be closer to home brewing than gardening. Probably more to start off until the novelty dies off and they figure out it's just easier to buy it at the store.

                        And probably just like home brewing, you'll get some people that are good at it, some that suck, and there won't be much consistency between strains. But even the skunk weed will still get you ****ed up for a bit.
                        Truth be told, I have tried both growing plants, herbs and home brewing, and I sucked at each. However, I think brewing is harder, more steps and variables I think then just planting seeds in soil and watering as required (yes, simplifying for sake of argument). Plus there is more support for home gardners with flower shops, nurserys, and home improvement, like Home Depot, etc. everywhere. Here in LA, I can count on one hand the merchant support for the home brewer. So agreed
                        Last edited by El Minion; 01-05-2014, 11:49 AM.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Pony Boy View Post
                          Legalized Marijuana Cookie Sends 2-Year-Old Girl To Hospital In Colorado

                          http://www.medicaldaily.com/legalize...olorado-266338
                          So.. a kid gets hold of a THC cookie, and gets high accidentally. Mother (quite understandably) freaks out and takes her to the hospital.

                          Funny how the article starts out with an implication that serious harm was done.

                          It's certainly not a good thing, but the fact remains that pot is far less dangerous than any other drug (i.e. alcohol, tylenol, ex-lax, etc.) that a kid might be exposed to accidentally.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                            Thank god that doesn't happen with prescription meds, alcohol or anything else potentially harmful to a toddler.
                            I've never heard of a gun owner leaving their weapon where a child could get it and the child subsequently getting injured or killed.

                            Oh, wait...that **** happens all the time.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by DenverBrit View Post
                              Thank god that doesn't happen with prescription meds, alcohol or anything else potentially harmful to a toddler.
                              Yes, we all like to put our prescription meds in a cookie, it makes them easier to swallow.......

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by houghtam View Post
                                I've never heard of a gun owner leaving their weapon where a child could get it and the child subsequently getting injured or killed.

                                Oh, wait...that **** happens all the time.
                                Which one is easier for a 2 year old to do, lock and load a 9mm or eat a cookie they find on the ground?

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